Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
They're interested in controlling lives and not guns.
Senators Introduce Assault Weapons Ban
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Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
Edward Abby
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
Democrats have been the problem all along
Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter
Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.
I think we need to start arming up more
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Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Warming up to Andy and those senators are making a huge mistake. Trump already said it wasn't a gun issue...so...duh...they can't get it past Him
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Burzum
.223 Rem
I FULLY trust Trump, he may not personally have the passion but his son does, those who have the passion (like on this forum) know how to get their point across;
but the track record of Republican presidents is scary: Nixon wanted to ban handguns, Ford passed ITAR, Reagan screwed us in 1986 regarding machine guns, Bush41 screwed us in 1989, Bush41 and Reagan supported the 1994 AWB as fmr presidents, and Dingbat Bush43 supported renewal of the 1994 AWB while banning imported barrels and allowing the BATF get really dickish with parts kits.
To be fair to Trump, he would be the FIRST Republican president in the modern era to protect the 2nd Amendment, if he stands firm which i believe he will.
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It was cheaper more realistic for us peasants to buy, Thats all. Lol
STS556
.223 Rem
Feinstein is added to my list of people who I wish upon them an inoperable asshole tumor.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...D1B1D722D5C4AEDAEBB6276AB36.awb-bill-text.pdf
So in other words this is a national gun roster ...These are the guns one is allowed to own .... Until next year ... Much like California and their gun roster.. Every year the list gets smaller...
This is the incremental nature of their effort. For example it "bans" > 10 round magazines, but "owners may keep existing magazines".
Yeah, California went down that route. "Don't worry, you can keep your existing magazines, just not buy new ones." Now in California, you can't own them either. "Turn them in Mr & Mrs America".
So in other words this is a national gun roster ...These are the guns one is allowed to own .... Until next year ... Much like California and their gun roster.. Every year the list gets smaller...
This is the incremental nature of their effort. For example it "bans" > 10 round magazines, but "owners may keep existing magazines".
Yeah, California went down that route. "Don't worry, you can keep your existing magazines, just not buy new ones." Now in California, you can't own them either. "Turn them in Mr & Mrs America".
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eagleridge357
.223 Rem
I am beginning to think Feintwit needs to know she has not become totally useless and irrelevant as a senator, thereby bringing up the assault weapons ban from time to time so she can get some press and renew her constituency's reasons to keep her in the senate. It is after all the only thing she has done in all the years she has been in the senate that people associate with her name and her disgustingly lame and infertile senate record. She needs it as a crutch and a memoir of her halcyon days as the Wickedest Ugliest Witch Ever Known to Americans
Haven't read through the entire thread yet, All I want to point out is thank goodness that wicked witch "DIDN'T" win the election... Could you imagine what would be going on right now? About a dozen executive orders banning a dozen different items, accessories, ammo, magazines, etc!
Fuck them all!
Fuck them all!
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Here it is...the wording for an outright ban:
19 ‘‘(H) All of the following rifles, copies, dupli-
20 cates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capa-
21 bility of any such weapon thereof
20 cates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capa-
21 bility of any such weapon thereof
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
About two months prior to election day last year, I was saying that I felt the country was headed towards a very bad place. And no, it wasn't Hilliary being president. It was more along the lines of armed insurrection. The division was clear. The tension was palpable.
I am believing more and more that Trump is only going to see one term. I suspect the GOP will lose the Senate. And who knows what will happen with the House.
This WILL be pushed through again. It's only a matter of time. And unless we get a conservative majority in SCOTUS in the next 2-3 years, it will be here to stay.
Be prepared for it.
I am believing more and more that Trump is only going to see one term. I suspect the GOP will lose the Senate. And who knows what will happen with the House.
This WILL be pushed through again. It's only a matter of time. And unless we get a conservative majority in SCOTUS in the next 2-3 years, it will be here to stay.
Be prepared for it.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
FEINSTEIN...
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Has anyone found an updated equivalent to "Unintended Consequences". If so, I think it needs to be publicized.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
you guy can do what you want, Im preparing to be a criminal.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
If trump is pro-gun then why the heck hasn't he taken down the bans hardline I-don't-give-a-crap-what-state-this-is,-the-constituion-applies-federally style and ended the barrel ban. When bush goes to hades, he will likely be violated with millions of mis-populated, egged out, bent, and incorrectly journal sized US made barrels.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
HighlandLofts
6.5 Creedmoor
Common sense has no bearing to a Brain Dead, Retarded, Egotestical, Piece of Shit Democrap.
It's all for total dis-arment for total control of the sheeple.
When the war starts I'll be in on the first day of the battle.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
why do these fkin legislators get to make the bills .. shouldn't we the people be writing them and then get them to sponsor them and vote on ..
They want a measly 4.6 mil for a MiG 29?
Shiiiiiiiiit!
STS556
.223 Rem
Feinstein states that "weapons of war" don't belong in the hands of civilians. Doesn't that retarded old hag know that there are millions of hunters in America hunting with actual weapons of war? I am sure there are many more bolt action Remington's and McMillan's,the preferred rifle of choice by most hunters,and are actual weapons of war being used by snipers than there are AR15's being used in wars, if any AR's are ever used in war.
Ignore all the sks, m1 garands, m1a carbines, mosins, k98s, etc... Those dont actually count as weapons of war even though it's entirely possible they have an actual body count to them...
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
For now ....
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I know of a gunsmith that made a virtual career making the Springfield 06 and Mauser 98 into sporting rifles. His alterations left no doubt as to their origin.
Robin
Robin
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I am mad as hell because the TX massacre could have been prevented 100%.
I hear a lot of whining and bitching as usual and nothing else of value.
Lets talk about the above responses because I think this is where we have a major problem and
misunderstanding and why perhaps we are paralyzed.
The ultimate goal of guns is to keep us safe and everyone has the right to keep and bear arms but
if a person is going to be a risk to hurt or threaten other innocent people then that person has automatically
voided that right to keep arms.
Of course criminals, terrorists and lunatics do not care about anything and will look for any means to hurt
other people if that is what they have in mind. Nobody will argue with that.
This thug in Texas lied on the 4473 as he knew the AF failed to report his criminal history.
But the 4473 form is a joke as it is any method that would rely in the "honor" system. In today's world
of computers, online banking and applications it doesn't make any sense that we have a system
that doesn't have an authentication and verification method w/o the need for anyone to answer any
questions and therefore no opportunity to lie about anything. It takes literately less than a minute
to verify someones identity and seconds to perform an automated security check.
A bank will not allow a $5 online transaction w/o a type of authentication and verification so why
we should allow anyone to go ahead with something that can potentially result in a very dangerous
situation?
It also takes seconds to make sure that when someone is arrested or institutionalized they get
automatically flagged and will have to go through whatever process to get that sorted out if
they ever want to have a gun. This process will also put whatever firearms that person has in
PD consignment.
Folks worry about government intervention but in reality this will have no impact as long as one
is not arrested or institutionalized.
IMO a purchase should be as simple as getting a token with your identity and both parties will
get down to the FFL to do a 1 minute verification and exchange. Actually the government should
cover the costs and pay the FFL since they are the ones who dump millions in useless measures
and do not help anyone. We already pay taxes so why we have to pay more for every single
transaction we process.
The main problem the way I see it is the lack of initiative of some 2A organizations. They are
there always in defensive mode and waiting for something to happen. The liberals love this,
they have to do nothing but wait so someone, many times in one of their "Gun Free" Zones
will start murdering innocent people so they can restart their sensationalist disinformation
machine to disarm America.
The NRA are dragging their feet and we have been hearing many people not just old uncle Ted Nugent
how displeased 2A supporters are with the lack of determination and attitude from our 2A organizations
and leaders.
I personally know some firearm owners who are very proud supporters of the 2A and NRA
but have not been at a rally ever in their lives. yes they send the occasional letter and donation
but IMO this type of armchair activism and complacency is what is killing us.
IMO many are hard working people who have to get up early to work and have no time
for a lot of politics but we also need to understand that if we continue as we are without
taking the lead in some of these matters then nothing is going to improve. It can only get worse.
So what is it going to be, are we just going to stay on the defense or can we take the lead
and start blasting the NRA, local leaders and what not? When is the next rally to change
the way we do business?
Please let me know of ideas but don't tell me the old excuses and rhetoric. we need
new practical ideas that are in sync with reality. IMO the thing that the liberals should fear
the most is that we take the lead in reform and we expose some of the huge inefficiencies
and inadequacies of the current system including the penal system. We cannot be complacent
about this, and we have to follow through.
Senators just introduced the Assault Weapons ban of 2017. We need to take a lead
vs. being on the defensive all the time and take at serious look at reasonable measures
that are going to work and have nothing to do with the firearms features BS the liberals
claim.
I hear a lot of whining and bitching as usual and nothing else of value.
Lets talk about the above responses because I think this is where we have a major problem and
misunderstanding and why perhaps we are paralyzed.
The ultimate goal of guns is to keep us safe and everyone has the right to keep and bear arms but
if a person is going to be a risk to hurt or threaten other innocent people then that person has automatically
voided that right to keep arms.
Of course criminals, terrorists and lunatics do not care about anything and will look for any means to hurt
other people if that is what they have in mind. Nobody will argue with that.
This thug in Texas lied on the 4473 as he knew the AF failed to report his criminal history.
But the 4473 form is a joke as it is any method that would rely in the "honor" system. In today's world
of computers, online banking and applications it doesn't make any sense that we have a system
that doesn't have an authentication and verification method w/o the need for anyone to answer any
questions and therefore no opportunity to lie about anything. It takes literately less than a minute
to verify someones identity and seconds to perform an automated security check.
A bank will not allow a $5 online transaction w/o a type of authentication and verification so why
we should allow anyone to go ahead with something that can potentially result in a very dangerous
situation?
It also takes seconds to make sure that when someone is arrested or institutionalized they get
automatically flagged and will have to go through whatever process to get that sorted out if
they ever want to have a gun. This process will also put whatever firearms that person has in
PD consignment.
Folks worry about government intervention but in reality this will have no impact as long as one
is not arrested or institutionalized.
IMO a purchase should be as simple as getting a token with your identity and both parties will
get down to the FFL to do a 1 minute verification and exchange. Actually the government should
cover the costs and pay the FFL since they are the ones who dump millions in useless measures
and do not help anyone. We already pay taxes so why we have to pay more for every single
transaction we process.
The main problem the way I see it is the lack of initiative of some 2A organizations. They are
there always in defensive mode and waiting for something to happen. The liberals love this,
they have to do nothing but wait so someone, many times in one of their "Gun Free" Zones
will start murdering innocent people so they can restart their sensationalist disinformation
machine to disarm America.
The NRA are dragging their feet and we have been hearing many people not just old uncle Ted Nugent
how displeased 2A supporters are with the lack of determination and attitude from our 2A organizations
and leaders.
I personally know some firearm owners who are very proud supporters of the 2A and NRA
but have not been at a rally ever in their lives. yes they send the occasional letter and donation
but IMO this type of armchair activism and complacency is what is killing us.
IMO many are hard working people who have to get up early to work and have no time
for a lot of politics but we also need to understand that if we continue as we are without
taking the lead in some of these matters then nothing is going to improve. It can only get worse.
So what is it going to be, are we just going to stay on the defense or can we take the lead
and start blasting the NRA, local leaders and what not? When is the next rally to change
the way we do business?
Please let me know of ideas but don't tell me the old excuses and rhetoric. we need
new practical ideas that are in sync with reality. IMO the thing that the liberals should fear
the most is that we take the lead in reform and we expose some of the huge inefficiencies
and inadequacies of the current system including the penal system. We cannot be complacent
about this, and we have to follow through.
Senators just introduced the Assault Weapons ban of 2017. We need to take a lead
vs. being on the defensive all the time and take at serious look at reasonable measures
that are going to work and have nothing to do with the firearms features BS the liberals
claim.