Shooting at Uvalde Texas elementary school

[Acer-m14]

I don't know about that. I wasn't there, but looks to me like low windows first floor.

Map of gunman entry. Shot at building several times, enters door and straight into classroom.

Easy for me to say from my vantage point, I know, but this doesn't look that difficult to me.

At least double doors for entry, and at least a couple first floor windows.

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but the school was on lockdown when shots were fired down the street so they say .. ..

but then all the school doors were unlocked and let the asshole in the classroom where he locked the fkin door ..

WTF .,.

 

[Jem45472]

but the school was on lockdown when shots were fired down the street so they say .. ..

but then all the school doors were unlocked and let the asshole in the classroom where he locked the fkin door ..

WTF .,.

I'm not ready to cry conspiracy yet, but it makes you think don't it?

 

[Jem45472]

There's going to be video up the ass about this situation, but I doubt we'll ever see any of it.

 

[Acer-m14]

I'm not ready to cry conspiracy yet, but it makes you think don't it?

conspiracy .. i don't think so yet .. but u never know ..

im on the line of

A lot with big egos who dropped the fucking ball BIG TIME and are trying to cover there ASS NOW ..

 

[RedBreast21]

Video appears to be pulled. His other videos play but not that one.


"..to serve a protect...." No one pays any attention to the (....) and what they could mean. Yet the statement is on the many PD's cars giving the public a false sense of security. Hell, most police officers don't know the level of deception being perpetrated by the statement.

 

[99cummins]

 

[ManualF150]

It was a great video. I'm glad I watched it while it was still up.

This is a perfect example of "control".

*Sigh*

 

[FrankenCub]

In the initial entry by LE, does anybody know if they fired their weapons?

I've been wondering the same thing but kept my mouth shut. It has me questioning a lot. If they made entry initially, seen him before he got to a classroom, and received fire from him, did they go in yelling at him and not bother to shoot? AFAIC they should have been putting so many rounds at him he wouldn't have been even thinking straight. What did they say, 3 cops went in? Should have been fuckin mag dumps, not yelling to drop his weapon.

Maybe I'm missing something. This is a clusterfuck.

 

[FrankenCub]

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Must have been passing around a blunt, they certainly didn't learn anything from that training.

 

[spat]

So not a single cop thought hey, let's go look through the window and see what is going on? Maybe we can shoot him from there. From video I have seen the windows were very high up and would have needed a ladder to reach. Again, not an easy entry for a single gunman lugging a lot of gear already.

You can shoot through a window easier than you can see through one.

I would not advise just peeking in a window in a siege operation, you're likely to get your head shot off.

If you do, you need to treat it like an open door way and pie the corner, 'cause glass only stops wind and rain.

 

[Acer-m14]

just my opinion .. was only a fireman .. breaching a door ..

where will the shooter shoot at ... aka the Fire flashing out the door at you .. not talking a backdraft here

mid door .. like 3 to 4 feet up on the door .. ?

i would say most likely so .. so go low

so 3 cops on the floor .. prone or on knees .. get below 3 foot on the door .. one head on .. the other 2 at 45's

then someone blows the door from the side and covers .

the 3 on the floor light his ass up ..

 

[Acer-m14]

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then stop writing speeding tickets and seatbelt tickets and such and say i need permission to have a firearm

and stop tazing parents that will stand up and do what you did not ..

you had no duty to protect the parents were willing to go in .. am i wrong ?



so just be the janitor for clean up ..

 

[dwa12479]

Uvalde Police Department shows how not to write a press release

Uvalde Police Chief Daniel Rodriguez takes the cake for tone-deafness in the aftermath of the horrif

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That is absolutely fucking sickening to put a statement put like that. What the actual fuck.

 

[GOYABEAN]

I'm not ready to cry conspiracy yet, but it makes you think don't it?

Have they started on the destruction of said building yet

 

[Acer-m14]

It was a great video. I'm glad I watched it while it was still up.

This is a perfect example of "control".

*Sigh*

why was it pulled ..

we can't handle the Truth ?

 

[Stuckinny]

You can shoot through a window easier than you can see through one.

I would not advise just peeking in a window in a siege operation, you're likely to get your head shot off.

If you do, you need to treat it like an open door way and pie the corner, 'cause glass only stops wind and rain.

But sure would have been nice if the shooter was concentrating on the door and the window rather than the helpless victims. I think that is part of the guidance to chase and engage immediately, the more fire cops draw, the less likely it is that the shooter concentrates on the victims.

 

[Acer-m14]

i want to clone this Sherriff .. he says other wise .. watch it all or just click play .. boom gun control gone .. 28:30 mark



just wish the Rinos in office there would fk off .. would be another no permission state

 

[spat]

But sure would have been nice if the shooter was concentrating on the door and the window rather than the helpless victims. I think that is part of the guidance to chase and engage immediately, the more fire cops draw, the less likely it is that the shooter concentrates on the victims.

Sure would be nice if the shooter stood in the window and someone on a truck in the parking lot just shot him in the head too.

 

[Jem45472]

 

[Jem45472]

Unconfirmed, but this is supposedly the bortac guy who took the asshole out.

Appears he nearly took one on the noggin also.

 

[1075tech]

This is starting to smell bad. Another Sandy Hook? Drive an agenda?

2+2 is NOT equalling 4 here.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I've been wondering the same thing but kept my mouth shut. It has me questioning a lot. If they made entry initially, seen him before he got to a classroom, and received fire from him, did they go in yelling at him and not bother to shoot? AFAIC they should have been putting so many rounds at him he wouldn't have been even thinking straight. What did they say, 3 cops went in? Should have been fuckin mag dumps, not yelling to drop his weapon.

Maybe I'm missing something. This is a clusterfuck.

I'm thinking more along the lines of was anybody else shot by the police. Just trying to gauge what new information may come out, and public sentiment from it.

This has turned into more of investigate what the police may have done wrong, than preventing fucked up people from doing this again.

 

[livingston]

Unforgivable.

Young Texas school shooting victim ‘bled out’ waiting for help: family

One of the young victims of the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas bled to death while waiting for nearly an hour for police to come to the rescue, a first-responder allegedly told her mom.

nypost.com

How?

This was the point I was trying to make. ... "the golden hour rule " DR, Evil also mentioned after having medical training ... A tourniquet ... Don't leave home without one .. Now I am not saying these kids would have survived had one been in the room . Something to think about for us adults.

 

[Jem45472]

This is starting to smell bad. Another Sandy Hook? Drive an agenda?

2+2 is NOT equalling 4 here.

The public is going to demand answers on this one, but unfortunately every agency that was there will be fingerpointing so much that we may not even get to the bottom of it.

I'm actually almost thinking the chief that was in charge of ic is just going to be the fall guy here no matter what this investigation uncovers.

My opinion is every single agency there is responsible for this mess other than the 2 bortac guys that had the balls to actually do something.

I'm also of the opinion that neither of the initial entry team were hit with anything. They took fire, and they turned tail. We would have seen some images by now if they were grazed.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

The public is going to demand answers on this one, but unfortunately every agency that was there will be fingerpointing so much that we may not even get to the bottom of it.

I'm actually almost thinking the chief that was in charge of ic is just going to be the fall guy here no matter what this investigation uncovers.

My opinion is every single agency there is responsible for this mess other than the 2 bortac guys that had the balls to actually do something.

I'm also of the opinion that neither of the initial entry team were hit with anything. They took fire, and they turned tail. We would have seen some images by now if they were grazed.

Hochul (maybe): The combination of an AR15 and a 'body vest' by the typically white domestic terrorists that commit these types of atrocities something something something. Let's ban stuff and file lawsuits.

 

[Defilade]

Schools have multiple cameras everywhere. I guess they are going to "Pentagon" those...

 

[fresch]

Schools have multiple cameras everywhere. I guess they are going to "Pentagon" those...

They were not working that day, only down those hallways. My guess.

 

[BerettaGuy]

These are the words of a NY Times reporter, not mine.

According to Uvalde police training documents obtained by Mike Baker and Dana Goldstein at the New York Times, this moment should have led to an immediate, sustained, and sacrificial engagement with the shooter. Police, including Uvalde police, are taught to engage a police shooter and not to stop, even if it means taking casualties. Here are some key quotes:

First responders to the active shooter scene will usually be required to place themselves in harm’s way and display uncommon acts of courage to save the innocent.

As first responders, we must recognize that innocent life must be defended. A first responder unwilling to place the lives of the innocent above their own safety should consider another career field.

When a man or woman puts on a uniform and straps on a gun—whether they’re a police officer or a soldier—they should be making a profound declaration. They’re willing to die to protect their community and their nation. They don’t want to die, of course. But they’re willing to pay the “last full measure of devotion” if that moment arrives.

That’s why we respect men and women in uniform. In some cultures, the uniform is a symbol of authority, not sacrifice, and those who wear uniforms are feared far more than they’re respected. In our culture, we thank soldiers for their service and “back the blue” because, in theory, they’ve placed our lives above their own.

And so, at 11:35 a.m. the seven officers present had but one choice—fight to the death to protect and save as many children as they could. They were to emerge from that school with their shield or on it. There was no other moral choice.

Not once did they mention that the "commander" in charge was a soy boy feminist progressive simp like they are at the NY Times.

Sacrificial engagement used by a soy boy reporter from NY. Yeah Right!

Then the NY Times reporter quotes JESUS!

At the root of a failure of courage is often a failure of love. C.S. Lewis wrote that courage is “not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point.” Jesus said, “No one has greater love than this: to lay down his life for his friends.” What we witnessed from the police in Uvalde was the triumph of self-love over love of others, including of the young kids bleeding in that room.

Hey, mister NY TIme Reporter where did the triumph of self-love over the love of others come from? Hmmmm?

 

[BerettaGuy]

They were not working that day, only down those hallways. My guess.

before they tear down the school.

 

[99cummins]

This was the point I was trying to make. ... "the golden hour rule " DR, Evil also mentioned after having medical training ... A tourniquet ... Don't leave home without one .. Now I am not saying these kids would have survived had one been in the room . Something to think about for us adults.

One more of the reasons law enforcement doesn’t wait at these kind of shootings. The sooner they hunt down and engage the shooter the sooner ems can move in and begin treating patients hopefully leading to less casualties. Ems is being trained to go into the warm zone with le in shooting events to begin triage and patient care. But can’t do that if the pussie pd is out front trying to decide who’s skinny jeans go best with their tac gear.