Should New York recognize pistol permits from other states?
- Thread starter ManualF150
- Start date
There should be ZERO permits.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Agreed. If they decide to make us have permits they should be acceptable anywhere in the USA.
Fuck permits.
At most I'd be willing to accept identification cards. But not as a requirement.
Just a simple mark on the license to say a person is allowed to own a gun. That's it. NO registry, no copying down my serial numbers, no knowing what I own. Only that I am, or am not, "allowed" to own a gun based on criminal background.
since any time you are arrested, convicted, incarcerated, etc., the Feds and State know it, it would be easy enough to just place a mark on whatever form of I.D. a person uses, and I.D. would be the only requirement to purchase so they know you are you.
At most I'd be willing to accept identification cards. But not as a requirement.
Just a simple mark on the license to say a person is allowed to own a gun. That's it. NO registry, no copying down my serial numbers, no knowing what I own. Only that I am, or am not, "allowed" to own a gun based on criminal background.
since any time you are arrested, convicted, incarcerated, etc., the Feds and State know it, it would be easy enough to just place a mark on whatever form of I.D. a person uses, and I.D. would be the only requirement to purchase so they know you are you.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
hell your drivers license should be it .. all autos kill too 
but thats racist for voting .. u know having a ID .
but thats racist for voting .. u know having a ID .
Criminal = not following laws
Law abiding citizen = follows laws
Law = ideas written in the hope the citizens will follow them
I see nothing in the constitution about no weapons for criminals or citizens
Cops = go after criminals
Judge = punish criminals
If your a criminal that should be removed from society, then you should be removed for ever; be it dead or on the chain gangs.
Law abiding citizen = follows laws
Law = ideas written in the hope the citizens will follow them
I see nothing in the constitution about no weapons for criminals or citizens
Cops = go after criminals
Judge = punish criminals
If your a criminal that should be removed from society, then you should be removed for ever; be it dead or on the chain gangs.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Criminal = not following laws
Law abiding citizen = follows just laws
Law = ideas written in the hope the citizens will follow them
I see nothing in the constitution about no weapons for criminals or citizens
Cops = go after criminals
Judge = punish criminals
If your a criminal that should be removed from society, then you should be removed for ever; be it dead or on the chain gangs.
fixered .. lol
i'm not following a LAW that says on Friday the 13th you have to jump off the first bridge you come to
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Depick
.308 Win
NYS should recognize the US constitution.
TimeStreamError
.177 BB
I think they need to start with recognizing their own permits first…
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
I always wondered why Im a perfectly legal in 90% of the country, but as soon as I cross a line in dirt, im a criminal/felon. Moreover, Im so legal in 28 states, I could slap a firearm to my hip and walk right down the damn street and no one would care. So why does New Yorkistan believe Im a criminal if I carry a firearm for self-defense??
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The permits as they are today are a joke because no amount of permits is going to stop thugs, gangs lunatics and their crimes.
At the same time it should be very simple to have some very basic measures to prevent a mentally sick person from buying or carrying a gun the same way they cannot get many jobs.
We probably would not have to worry about that if they were inside proper mental institutions getting the help they need in the first place.
At the same time it should be very simple to have some very basic measures to prevent a mentally sick person from buying or carrying a gun the same way they cannot get many jobs.
We probably would not have to worry about that if they were inside proper mental institutions getting the help they need in the first place.
JRtraderny
.308 Win
I believe the institutions you talk about are the ones the state and government shut down , anyone ever wonder where the money they supposedly saved by doing so went ??
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes.
Will it happen?
No.
Will it happen?
No.
The Sullivan act would have to go away first. Handguns are illegal in NY unless on a license. So it would have to cease being law before other state permits can be recognized.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Many mentally skck people have ended up in the penal system that is not prepared nor designed to deal with that monumental problem.
ManualF150
.308 Win
You are correct. I know of a few corrections officers that have told me pretty much the same thing in one way or another.
Fundamentally, it is social undermining of such "institutions" that led to this.
In other words, when people hear "Psych Ward", they deem it as derogatory in the world we live in now.
That should be the easy part.
Didn't the Supreme Court already decide that they can't ban an entire class of arms?
Since the initial premise is that all handguns are banned unless special permission is asked for and granted it should be a no-brainer to get it thrown out.
NY doesn't even recognize NY licenses to carry in most places according to the latest gibberish called a law.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
There is nothing in the penal code that would allow New York to recognize licenses from other states.
Anything short of National Reciprocity passing (which that traitorous RINO Paul Ryan personally blocked while House Speaker), or SCOTUS somehow ruling that all lawful citizens can carry ANYWHERE, there is absolutely ZERO possibility of NYS ever recognizing out of states CCW’s.
WTF, NYShitty won’t even recognize CCW permits of NY citizens residing outside of that shithole (the 5 boroughs) And that cancerous crap attitude is spreading beyond NYC to Westchester, Nassau, and other counties as well.
EDIT: Actually, I suppose there is a faint possible way it could happen that we get allowed to carry in NY,- if Judge Sinatra rules that we can carry on subways (because public transit in his District does include a subway in Buffalo). Then if the 2nd Circuit overrules that, and SCOTUS were to take it up, and actually rule in our favor,- how could they rule that subways in Buffalo were required to allow CCW holders, but subways elsewhere in NY did not have to?
WTF, NYShitty won’t even recognize CCW permits of NY citizens residing outside of that shithole (the 5 boroughs) And that cancerous crap attitude is spreading beyond NYC to Westchester, Nassau, and other counties as well.
EDIT: Actually, I suppose there is a faint possible way it could happen that we get allowed to carry in NY,- if Judge Sinatra rules that we can carry on subways (because public transit in his District does include a subway in Buffalo). Then if the 2nd Circuit overrules that, and SCOTUS were to take it up, and actually rule in our favor,- how could they rule that subways in Buffalo were required to allow CCW holders, but subways elsewhere in NY did not have to?
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Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
whatever happened to those four people that were challenging Whorchul's rules by open carrying in Times square, and daring the police to arrest them
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Easy. They limit the wording of the opinion to say you can’t ban it on subways . But NYC would say the law you would be violating would say nothing about subways .
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
They will argue the Buffalo subway is different than the NYC subway. Then they will try limiting them during rush hour. Then only at certain stations at certain times of the day. It will not end.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Quit feeding James and Hochul ideas... you know damn well know they waltz right on through this forum to get some of their crazy ideas...
It's like feeding the pigeons.... they keep coming back to haunt and shit all over us.
whatwasithinking
.40 S&W
I keep hearing that NYS is a purple state ... the political land scape is starting to change.
gunpoliticsny
6.5 Creedmoor
Democrats hold all statewide offices and have supermajorities in both chambers of the statehouse. Deep, deep blue.
spat
.950 JDJ
They should just be like novelties.
Like a "Female Body Inspector" ID badge.
You know, we all enjoy inspecting the occasional willing female body, and we obviously don't need a license, but it's good for a laugh.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
deep, deep, deep U-haul
whatwasithinking
.40 S&W
Which supports my allegation that the elections are rigged. No political party has ever enjoyed a super majority for this length of time.