Okay, you win.
Should private businesses be allowed to ban guns?
- Thread starter ronstar
- Start date
Okay, you win.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
From What authority?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If the business owner says you have to hop on one foot the whole time you're there, they have the right to kick you out when you slip.
If a bar owner wants to have a "no talking politics" rule, that is their right. If you want to exercise your 1A right, you can do it else where.
Just like a bakery owner should absolutely have the right to tell someone he won't make a cake for them. He shouldn't even have to give them a reason.
It spells out Americans' rights in relation to their government. It guarantees civil rights and liberties to the individual—like freedom of speech, press, and religion
Please state the question in it's entirety.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
From where the power of denial derived? what law is that?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
That cannot work.
A business owner can't restrict your right to speak in their business ?
Some guy sets up pro Biden signs in your lawn, you can't remove them without violating his rights?
No, the property owner can remove anyone for any reason. That's the only thing that works.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Correct, Can you as an individual deny a person of his rights ?
Does the Bill of Rights protect us from private businesses?
Here are some very basic principles to remember: The guarantees of the Bill of Rights apply only to state and federal government action. They do not limit what a company or person in the private sector may do.
www.carnegielibrary.org
Here are some very basic principles to remember: The guarantees of the Bill of Rights apply only to state and federal government action. They do not limit what a company or person in the private sector may do.
The First Amendment, Censorship, and Private Companies: What Does “Free Speech” Really Mean? - Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
Learn about the specifics of the First Amendment, how censorship has been defined and challenged over time, and what all of this means to private companies and on social media.
www.carnegielibrary.org
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
its not a premise its a question. Where is this power to deny derived from?
Yes.
You can be banned from this forum, for example. Your right to communicate here can be revoked.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
No. But you can demand they leave your property. At any time, for any reason.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Infringement of a persons rights is against the law, Kidnapping?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
If I invite you to my home, I will dictate the rules that you must follow. I can say no guns allowed and forbade certain conversations. If you violate my rules, I can make you leave my home.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
You boys got me out gunned tonight. I know when im beat.
The premise of course being "the ability to deny comes from law."
There are as many laws for that as there are for you to consume oxygen.
Because the premise is false. Laws, and government, are not set up to allow things.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Ill buy that, but your home isnt open to the public .
That is correct. But even a open to the public business can ask anyone to leave that they please, within reason.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No, the ability to deny is coming from the owner of the property that holds no legal standing to deny rights.
Infringement of a person's rights might be against the law. Some willingly give up that and allow themselves to be tied up by others (believe it or not
) .The key is consent. You consent to the terms of the property you enter.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Not sure how you misinterpreted me. I was pretty clear.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Infringement of a person's rights might be against the law. Some willingly give up that and allow themselves to be tied up by others (believe it or not
The key is consent. You consent to the terms of the property you enter.
Well,You have a point, but thats voluntary consent . not an infringement.
Not only do they in fact have that right, the person occuping the space has no right to occupy it if not consented on.
You consent to the terms of any property you enter, or you may be asked to leave.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
So they can deny someone because they are Jewish black or Mexican?