Spike in pistol license applications following Monsey stabbings

[C3D]

Pistol permit applications spike following Monsey attack

There's been a rapid spike in pistol permit applications in the wake of the Monsey machete attack

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[GOPerfect]

I think the PP applications are on the increase due, in part, to the new, no bail laws.

 

[Robin]

I don't think so. In this gulag most are totally blissfully unaware and living large. This is totally due to the recent event.
Robin

 

[ExMember_4526]

Pistol permit applications spike following Monsey attack

There's been a rapid spike in pistol permit applications in the wake of the Monsey machete attack

www.lohud.com

Yes, yes, yes, yes & yes!

Let’s perpetuate the fact that the most efficient tools for defense of self (liberty & property), based on current available technology, are implements known as firearms!

Let’s get more people armed!

This is one of the most “primal”/self evident facts in existence: One first needs to be alive before one can assert what type of life one should lead!

It should be a universally agreed upon notion that small arms should be deregulated so that individuals may have access to the most efficient tools for defense of self!

Let’s get more people armed, organized & mobilized to make it a bipartisan politically expedient non issue!

Whoever lives in Rockland and didn’t sign the petition to remove the Sportsman restriction, please do it!

Please have others sign it as well!

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I have some Jewish friends, and it saddens me to write this. Every single one of them told me that they were against people owning handguns for self defense.

All of them expressed fatalistic views along the lines of “Oh well, if I get shot and wounded or even die, then that’s the way it was meant to be...”.

Even when I discussed realistic scenarios, as well as actual horrific events that have happened at Jewish houses of worship, and how the typical time it takes for law enforcement to respond, their attitude about a gunman or other attacker having minutes to wreak havoc, and to maim and or kill them, their typical response was: “Oh well. Better to suffer those consequences than to own a dreaded firearm”.

Sad. Really sad.

 

[ExMember_4526]

I have some Jewish friends, and it saddens me to write this. Every single one of them told me that they were against people owning handguns for self defense.

All of them expressed fatalistic views along the lines of “Oh well, if I get shot and wounded or even die, then that’s the way it was meant to be...”.

Even when I discussed realistic scenarios, as well as actual horrific events that have happened at Jewish houses of worship, and how the typical time it takes for law enforcement to respond, their attitude about a gunman or other attacker having minutes to wreak havoc, and to maim and or kill them, their typical response was: “Oh well. Better to suffer those consequences than to own a dreaded firearm”.

Sad. Really sad.

I really don’t want this to become another “Jewish” thread. For the sake of brevity:

• According to authentic Torah law, one has an OBLIGATION to defend oneself through the use of deadly force, when faced with a threat to one’s life.

• I am a Orthodox Jew, living in a Orthodox Jewish neighborhood, and many of it’s inhabitants are very well armed! (“Black Rifles” are certainly not uncommon)

• The individual Jews you must know, are a small sample size, and are most likely assimilated.

• Regardless of the above, it’s important for ALL Americans to realize that the implements known as firearms are currently the most efficient tools for defense of life.

• People should go out of their way to own them, train & become proficient in their usage with them!

• People should push for policies that lead to the deregulation of small arms!

 

[spat]

I really don’t want this to become another “Jewish” thread. For the sake of brevity:

• According to authentic Torah law, one has an OBLIGATION to defend oneself through the use of deadly force, when faced with a threat to one’s life.

• I am a Orthodox Jew, living in a Orthodox Jewish neighborhood, and many of it’s inhabitants are very well armed! (“Black Rifles” are certainly not uncommon)

• The individual Jews you must know, are a small sample size, and are most likely assimilated.

• Regardless of the above, it’s important for ALL Americans to realize that the implements known as firearms are currently the most efficient tools for defense of life.

• People should go out of their way to own them, train & become proficient in their usage with them!

• People should push for policies that lead to the deregulation of small arms!

It seems to me that "Jew" encompasses a pretty broad range of people, and is probably not all that useful a category for most purposes.

From strongly religious and culturally conservative types, to your typical limousine liberals.

Lumping people like yourself, Ben Shapiro and the people at JPFO in with the likes of Barbara Streisand, Bernie Sanders and Chuck Schumer doesn't seem very useful at all.

I'm not all that sure why people care. If you want to love Jews there are many great examples you can revere, and if you want to hate them there are plenty of those as well.

 

[ExMember_4526]

It seems to me that "Jew" encompasses a pretty broad range of people, and is probably not all that useful a category for most purposes.

From strongly religious and culturally conservative types, to your typical limousine liberals.

Lumping people like yourself, Ben Shapiro and the people at JPFO in with the likes of Barbara Streisand, Bernie Sanders and Chuck Schumer doesn't seem very useful at all.

I'm not all that sure why people care. If you want to love Jews there are many great examples you can revere, and if you want to hate them there are plenty of those as well.

Again, don’t want this to become another Jew thread.

The positive thing about the initial post, is that more people are becoming armed for defense of life! Hopefully this will become a trend throughout the country!

Regarding what you just posted, I believe we are in complete agreement!

I wish other people would realize that, like every ethnic/cultural group, you have different people who will have different notions about ethics, etc

I obviously don’t lump myself together with the latter group mentioned. You and I most likely have more “ideological” commonality than I would have with Micheal Bloomberg.

It seems you aren’t taking issue with my previous comments in this thread, but just making a related point?

 

[spat]

It seems you aren’t taking issue with my previous comments in this thread, but just making a related point?

You are correct. I can't say I've read the entirety of your recent posts, but what I have read I generally agree with.

My main point is more related to @VietnamEraVet 's post than yours that I was replying to.

It is that comments about "my Jewish friends", etc would probably be better categorized as "my liberal friends". The qualities noted are far more charisteric of leftists than Jews. The fact that his Jewish friends all seem to be leftists may be more coincidental than causative.

I'm not sure how strong that correlation is.

 

[ExMember_4526]

You are correct. I can't say I've read the entirety of your recent posts, but what I have read I generally agree with.

My main point is more related to @VietnamEraVet 's post than yours that I was replying to.

It is that comments about "my Jewish friends", etc would probably be better categorized as "my liberal friends". The qualities noted are far more charisteric of leftists than Jews. The fact that his Jewish friends all seem to be leftists may be more coincidental than causative.

I'm not sure how strong that correlation is.

Yes, you make excellent points.

I think the main thing to be taken from the initial post, is that it’s very refreshing for people to be reacting to crime with arming themselves, as opposed to pushing for more regulations that only prevent people from defending themselves properly!

I hope this becomes a trend throughout the country!

 

[VietnamEraVet]

My post was in no way meant to pick on people of the Jewish faith. I do not know any Orthodox Jews,- everyone that I know is a Reform Jew. And yes, to my knowledge, all of them are also politically liberal as well.

My point was simply that I am saddened that even when faced with fresh evidence of the violence against them, that their attitude was very foreign to me, and to what I consider to be basic common sense. And it also seemed to me to be somehow related to their Jewish faith. After all, I know people of many different faiths, and while I find those people to have differing views on self defense with a firearm, (some are pro gun, and others are not), it just seems that all of my American Jewish friends are anti 2A and personal self defense.

Obviously, it is their right. I just don’t understand it.

 

[ExMember_4526]

My post was in no way meant to pick on people of the Jewish faith. I do not know any Orthodox Jews,- everyone that I know is a Reform Jew. And yes, to my knowledge, all of them are also politically liberal as well.

My point was simply that I am saddened that even when faced with fresh evidence of the violence against them, that their attitude was very foreign to me, and to what I consider to be basic common sense. And it also seemed to me to be somehow related to their Jewish faith. After all, I know people of many different faiths, and while I find those people to have differing views on self defense with a firearm, (some are pro gun, and others are not), it just seems that all of my American Jewish friends are anti 2A and personal self defense.

Obviously, it is their right. I just don’t understand it.

I would prefer if this thread didn’t turn into another thread about Jews, as it detracts from the original post about how people are reacting to crime by arming themselves.

This is a good thing.

All people, everywhere, from all backgrounds, should arm themselves for defense of life.

This is a much better reaction pattern, rather than pushing for more regulations that would only hinder people from defending themselves properly.

*I certainly didn’t think you were picking on anyone. You just pointed out an observation about how some people can be shortsighted/foolish & it’s indeed very sad!

 

[Acer-m14]

I thought FUAC banned Machete's a few yrs ago .. so FUAC and your PP and asshole judges restrictions ...

I hope all that paid the price for getting there PP used a credit card .. when you get your PP then dispute the charge .. they sent the wrong one, it was damaged .. ect ... get your $$$ back . LOL ..

 

[ExMember_4526]

We very much need to be pushing for “constitutional carry”!

...as a start... really we need to completely deregulate everything relating to small arms!

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

We very much need to be pushing for “constitutional carry”!

...as a start... really we need to completely deregulate everything relating to small arms!

You'll fit in just fine here

How long have you been into guns and self defense? Are you into preparedness as well?

Not sure if you watch a lot of YouTube but you might like the "warriorpoet" channel. You may appreciate a lot of his world Outlook

 

[ExMember_4526]

Barbara Streisand

Spat, you shouldn’t prejudge people. Barbara Streisand is a 5th cousin removed of mine, and she runs a MK12 like a boss! She has a huge collection of SBRs and puts on average between 20K - 30K rounds per month between her various systems! She’s sub MOA all day, dude!

...Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

 

[Acer-m14]

any stats or info on Jane Fonda LMAO ..

 

[ExMember_4526]

any stats or info on Jane Fonda LMAO ..

Have you seen what she can do with a M110 at 800 meters? I also heard she’s really into the Roland Special! (Runs it like a boss within 25 meters!)

 

[Shadow2]

Hope they aren't planning to get carry permits

 

[Chicken Shoot]

I think the PP applications are on the increase due, in part, to the new, no bail laws.

Yep!! What you state is exactly what people are saying as they are picking out their soon to be new pistols!! The machete attack is also referenced but not nearly as often as the BS bail reform!! People are PO'ed and quite honestly, I think the entire NYS govt and it's POS leader should be arrested for multiple crimes including endangering the welfare of children, endangering the welfare of the public, aiding and abetting etc.

 

[Acer-m14]

I think the entire NYS govt and it's POS leader should be arrested for multiple crimes including endangering the welfare of children, endangering the welfare of the public, aiding and abetting etc.

i like that ideal .. but wouldn't they just get a appearance ticket now with the bail reform ..