State Bans "Paramilitary Training" In Violation of the 2nd Amendment ... UPDATE ... Off to Jail

[Acer-m14]

Vermont Even .. well we can't do anything because there is no LAW .. so LETs MAKE ONE UP ...

good by gun ranges and that mandatory training needed now to buy a gun ...

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[Jmac00]

another government that is above the law, Bow to our authority, you peasant

Oh and BTW, you need training to get a permit, but you can't train, because you need training to be trained to own a gun, therefore training here by banned.

 

[byron]

Vermont does not require permits to purchase and has no firearms registration. Both open carry and concealed carry are legal without a permit in Vermont.

 

[Criticalt]

Vermont does not require permits to purchase and has no firearms registration. Both open carry and concealed carry are legal without a permit in Vermont.

But can they train?
Noooooooooo........

 

[Cooolone]

Soooooo, then... Political Speeches be banned? How about any political polling? I think they should ban legal representation prior to indictment as well... What a joke!

It's basically throw anything at the wall and see what sticks! Complete disregard to anything Constitutional! What Bill of Rights!? Only the ones (Rights) they feel are applicable be enforced or enjoyed to be exercised by their permission!

This is the new mantra, Live by Permission Only! And only the masses require it as government agencies and operatives need no permission and act freely in an environment of impunity!

Like a bad 70's movie, the new reality!

 

[prambo]

 

[SomeSoldier]

Lol, just drive 10mins to New Hampshire.

 

[GOYABEAN]

If you post or fly the correct banners you know the thing's everything would be hunky dory

 

[Zerex]

Heller states.."who are the militia? Why the unorganized militia is the people who are armed.

Organized Trap shoots in Vermont and any IDPA matches...........are now banned?

People shoot at club organized events as organized groups........... with membership cards...........pretty hard to prosecute two or more people who go to a range to practice or participate in 3 gun training........... or any other sort of shoot like SASS Cowboy.....

How would you prosecute?

I am a member of SASS, and the ATA national Trap org, and several gun clubs................will this ban gun clubs?? It is obvious that the fat dumb cat ladies in Vt want to do just that...............

 

[Defilade]

Private property right?? Kiss off!

 

[Varmint]

 

[tirwin1]

 

[Criticalt]

Soooooo, then... Political Speeches be banned? How about any political polling? I think they should ban legal representation prior to indictment as well... What a joke!

It's basically throw anything at the wall and see what sticks! Complete disregard to anything Constitutional! What Bill of Rights!? Only the ones (Rights) they feel are applicable be enforced or enjoyed to be exercised by their permission!

This is the new mantra, Live by Permission Only! And only the masses require it as government agencies and operatives need no permission and act freely in an environment of impunity!

Like a bad 70's movie, the new reality!

The government isnt dumb.
They know that 90% plus of the younger people these days know NOTHING, and do NOT care about politics, government or history..... period.
There is a youtube guy, named Justin something.......he walks around and asks questions on the street to younger people. You would think its satire, but its real.
These people in their 20s, know nothing.......very simple questions.
"Whats 3x3x3?", " What countries border the USA?", What state is Idaho in?", "Who fought in the Mexican American war?", " How many cents in a dollar?", "Whats 15% of 100?", " Who did we win independence from?"....... third grade stuff.
Nobody knows who the president is, the vice president and a couple couldn't point to the USA on a map of the world!!
I am confident that if they paid attention, they would not agree with what is going on.
Ohh, they ALL know that Donald Trump was president and the HATE him.......absolutely none know why, but they hate him.

 

[pshift]

America is dumber because of the food that we have been eating for the last 3-4 generations. It's all controlled by the elite.

 

[Acer-m14]

Vermont Orders Man To Jail So Town Can Destroy His Ranges (Private Property)​

 

[Defilade]

Vermont Orders Man To Jail So Town Can Destroy His Ranges (Private Property)​

Constitution states we have a right to property. This will have to go to a higher court to get slapped down. Idiot judge obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

 

[Acer-m14]

isn't this how the killdoser happened ..

trying to use zoning laws against a person ..

 

[Grimscale]

isn't this how the killdoser happened ..

trying to use zoning laws against a person ..

Yes.


Now, what do you think will happen if a thousand 2A supporters decide to visit that nice little town, all driving their freshly "repaired" dozers?

 

[RedBreast21]

The government isnt dumb.
They know that 90% plus of the younger people these days know NOTHING, and do NOT care about politics, government or history..... period.
There is a youtube guy, named Justin something.......he walks around and asks questions on the street to younger people. You would think its satire, but its real.
These people in their 20s, know nothing.......very simple questions.
"Whats 3x3x3?", " What countries border the USA?", What state is Idaho in?", "Who fought in the Mexican American war?", " How many cents in a dollar?", "Whats 15% of 100?", " Who did we win independence from?"....... third grade stuff.
Nobody knows who the president is, the vice president and a couple couldn't point to the USA on a map of the world!!
I am confident that if they paid attention, they would not agree with what is going on.
Ohh, they ALL know that Donald Trump was president and the HATE him.......absolutely none know why, but they hate him.

These on the street interviews are for clicks. It wouldn't sell well if most got the answers. in short, they're heavily edited.

But yes, young people (<21) aren't up on politics. Well neither was I. and I don't believe too many here were either at a very young age. This group is exactly who they target for elections as they have been through many years of indoctrination. More so than what I went through in the 80's. The "Get out the Vote" campaigns have been very successful.

I have noticed that the above 25 working crowd are more awake than we give them credit for. They may not see the urgency but they clearly see the problem. This is the Crypto crowd and the group that is struggling with school loans, low wages and interest rate climbing. A large block of them haven't associated politics to their present condition. But they will. Like us, when they start a family things change significantly. Boomer and Gen X are dying off our number dwindling. Millennials, Gen Z and now Gen A are the future. We have to educated not make fun of them. We are doing exactly what the globalists want.

We, you, them, all being manipulated to fight among ourselves. As planned. We need to take on a more constructive role and educate others not belittle them. They have fragile ego's by design to make reversing the indoctrination almost impossible.

 

[1911guy]

For years I have admired VT for its gun laws and freedom. I even seriously considered moving to the state. Unfortunately so many people saw the beauty of the state and its policies, that did move there. But they brought their liberal ways with them. They inadvertently polluted the state with liberalism.

 

[RedBreast21]

As for VT, well, NY ban militias so we know whats next and won't be surprised. Right?

 

[Cooolone]

Let's see... Right to Property, Right to Speech, Right to Arms...

The "Training" most certainly would fall into not only 2A Freedoms but also Expression as exercising the Right on ones own property should not be hindered by Govt intrusion. Some serious Leftist bullshit going on here. Probably lives next to a politician or someone connected that can't stand the report of rounds going off... Haven't clicked the videos because I'd rather read than listen to someone tell the story. Anyways...

 

[Beerman]

The VT bill specifically spells out that weapons training intended for use against the gov is unlawful, but typical firearms use, including self defense, hunting and target shooting is still legal. <—— This is only information, and is neither my endorsement, nor disapproval of, the VT law.

 

[HIghlander]

Constitution states we have a right to property. This will have to go to a higher court to get slapped down. Idiot judge obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

Once the property has been razed then he will have no chance getting permits to rebuild. Probably why they just took the initiative. Once gone they can sit back and deny him anything he wants.

 

[Robin]

Police state.
Robin

 

[prambo]

We, you, them, all being manipulated to fight among ourselves. As planned. We need to take on a more constructive role and educate others not belittle them. They have fragile ego's by design to make reversing the indoctrination almost impossible.

In my now rather narrow view - a small village in the ADK between "No" and "Where" - reversing what was, for all intents and purposes, the first step in "The March Through the Institutions", is completely irreparable.

Many think people in the small villages of the ADK are naturally more conservative, can have legitimate political disagreements without rancor or, in a larger sense, amicably "agree to disagree".

That's not even remotely the truth.

This village, other than many of the older generations - 55/60 years+ - are no different than the bottom-feeding scum one finds in politics, the MSM, Crazyfornia, NYC, Seattle or Portland, as well as the educational and medical institutions of this totally benighted, corrupt, shit-heel banana republic.

The next village over - Saranac Lake - is commonly called "The Ithaca of the ADK", and it's completely true.

I see it every day just sitting in the front yard having a cigar, reading a book and watching out for the dog.

The completely ingrained behavior that is rampant in the "less than 55" bunch is mind-boggling.

These sorry ass douchebags are not recoverable, ever, using logical conversation where actual "facts" are presented, with supportive evidence. It doesn't work - I've tried it.

It's come to the point that my personal conclusion is that the <60 age group is preternaturally and genetically stupid, or at least the conditioning is so strong that they appear to be just that.

They know nothing other than their brainwashing, and that conditioning says...

"Believe everything you're told by the government, MSM and your school "teachers" (AKA brainwashers). We have all the answers - just drink your beer, smoke your weed, watch sportsball, fuck about on Farcebook and/or Twatter, do stupid shit, fuck, etc and everything will just be fine."

 

[Zerex]

Vermont Shooting Ranges & Gun Clubs - TradersCreek.com

Comprehensive listing of gun clubs and Vermont shooting ranges. This include trap and skeet, airgun, target practice and archery

traderscreek.com

This is about one man only and his range.

Paramilitary target practice and training can still be accomplished at the above ranges and other private ranges and is happening even today as we speak.

 

[Acer-m14]

they came for one gun range and no one spoke up ..

then they came for another and still no one spoke up ..

you all know the rest

 

[Jmac00]

Constitution states we have a right to property. This will have to go to a higher court to get slapped down. Idiot judge obviously doesn't know what he is doing.

in the mean time, the state will destroy his PRIVATE PROPERTY, because they think they can.

 

[RedBreast21]

So

In my now rather narrow view - a small village in the ADK between "No" and "Where" - reversing what was, for all intents and purposes, the first step in "The March Through the Institutions", is completely irreparable.

Many think people in the small villages of the ADK are naturally more conservative, can have legitimate political disagreements without rancor or, in a larger sense, amicably "agree to disagree".

That's not even remotely the truth.

This village, other than many of the older generations - 55/60 years+ - are no different than the bottom-feeding scum one finds in politics, the MSM, Crazyfornia, NYC, Seattle or Portland, as well as the educational and medical institutions of this totally benighted, corrupt, shit-heel banana republic.

The next village over - Saranac Lake - is commonly called "The Ithaca of the ADK", and it's completely true.

I see it every day just sitting in the front yard having a cigar, reading a book and watching out for the dog.

The completely ingrained behavior that is rampant in the "less than 55" bunch is mind-boggling.

These sorry ass douchebags are not recoverable, ever, using logical conversation where actual "facts" are presented, with supportive evidence. It doesn't work - I've tried it.

It's come to the point that my personal conclusion is that the <60 age group is preternaturally and genetically stupid, or at least the conditioning is so strong that they appear to be just that.

They know nothing other than their brainwashing, and that conditioning says...

"Believe everything you're told by the government, MSM and your school "teachers. We have all the answers - just drink your beer, smoke your weed, watch sportsball, fuck about on Farcebook and/or Twatter, do stupid shit, fuck, etc and everything will just be fine."

So......what I said then is correct and answer I give is incorrect? The other option is? lol


Look, even you don't like to be told you're wrong. No one does. So rubbing one's face in their incorrect political view........well that just keeps us focused on each other and on them. See, all as planned. lol