State lawmakers call for ammo production tax in New York

[Madmallard]

Two Democratic state lawmakers on Monday called for an excise tax on ammunition production in New York to generate funding for gun violence research.


The measure backed by state Sen. Andrew Gounardes and Assemblywoman Pat Fahy would tax ammo production between two and five cents.


Lawmakers backing the bill want to bolster funding for the state's newly created research fund for studying gun violence, which is part of the state Department of Health and the State University of New York.

State lawmakers call for ammo production tax

The bill would fund violence research.

nystateofpolitics.com

 

[livingston]

Look what they did with smokes.....What % increase in tax over the cost of production ? So will it be with ammo

 

[Grimscale]

so they drive out commercial ammo production and end up with net zero "revenue".
(Are there still any actual ammo production facilities active in NY?)

Non-commercial will continue. I doubt any of you guys who are reloading will be paying this tax.
And, ultimately, guns (AND AMMO) are a Right. Smoking is not.

 

[Saltwater60]

Really? Fairly funding it? I have not committed violence. Why not tax the gangs or drug sales?
By taxing ammunition, we are fairly funding research that will help us build smart and effective policies."

is this on ammo sold in NYS or made in NYS?

 

[gunpoliticsny]

No bill so don't know exactly what they're thinking of.

 

[Cooolone]

Chase more business out of NY

PERFECT!

 

[Saltwater60]

No bill so don't know exactly what they're thinking of.

Great so one can only imagine.

 

[ManualF150]

Ammo already has taxes on it. Sales tax and the Pittman–Robertson Act tax.

I hope the war in Ukraine opens some of these woke politicians eyes up as to why citizens needs guns and ammo.

 

[FRANKIE]

“The measure backed by state Sen. Andrew Gounardes and Assemblywoman Pat Fahy would tax ammo production between two and five cents.”

Here’s my two cents -
Fuck you Andrew and Pat

 

[jimc]

What happened to the millions in taxes the state made from online gambling (from the superbowl alone). Must be they spent that already.

EDIT: For 5 bucks, I'll them where most of the 'gun crime' comes from.

 

[dwa12479]

Mu wah ha ha ha.... TAX THIS BITCH!

 

[Truebeliever]

Typical democrat stuff, a “ feel good “ measure without looking at its actual effects. Police departments are having a hard time paying for ammo now. They raise the cost, it means less training for police officers and those who legally carry guns. Do they really want less trained gun owners?

 

[Defilade]

I can't get out of the Shit hole fast enough!

 

[Cooolone]

I can't get out of the Shit hole fast enough!

^^^ THIS ^^^

 

[Saltwater60]

Ammo already has taxes on it. Sales tax and the Pittman–Robertson Act tax.

I hope the war in Ukraine opens some of these woke politicians eyes up as to why citizens needs guns and ammo.

It won’t because they are Russia in this case.

 

[Saltwater60]

Mu wah ha ha ha.... TAX THIS BITCH!

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You think they won’t?

 

[Steal2B]

Without a draft bill, who knows what they are going for but nearly all ammo production I am aware, is produced outside of this God foresaken state.

That won't stop the lefty Feds.

In the last congress HR 5717 called for a 50% tax on ammo sales and a 30% tax on firearms.

Sounds like an infringement from my cheap seats.

 

[dwa12479]

You think they won’t?

Nope. They don't ACTUALLY care, its a bunch of grandstanding for their base.

All that BS all through the unSAFE Act dealing with ammo etc... not a single mention or thought given to reloading.

 

[Acer-m14]

(Are there still any actual ammo production facilities active in NY?)

yes ..

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[Grimscale]

Do they really want less trained gun owners?

Sure they do. It would help them convince the majority of America to ban guns.

 

[spat]

Typical democrat stuff, a “ feel good “ measure without looking at its actual effects. Police departments are having a hard time paying for ammo now. They raise the cost, it means less training for police officers and those who legally carry guns. Do they really want less trained gun owners?

It doesn't take much ammo to commit a drive by.

Taking a class or shooting in a competition OTOH takes a ton.

Criminals won't care. Even $100 a round won't stop them from shooting some rival.

 

[Saltwater60]

Nope. They don't ACTUALLY care, its a bunch of grandstanding for their base.

All that BS all through the unSAFE Act dealing with ammo etc... not a single mention or thought given to reloading.

Because not a lot of people do it. If it becomes more popular they will do it.

I don’t really care I’ll just buy my ammo in PA if I need to or if it’s cheaper. I’ll buy it once a year and spend a few thousand in one shot. Nothing o can do will stop these animals anyway.

 

[pshift]

It doesn't take much ammo to commit a drive by.

Taking a class or shooting in a competition OTOH takes a ton.

Criminals won't care. Even $100 a round won't stop them from shooting some rival.

Criminals paying $100 a round for their stolen firearms? Ammo is a commodity more than the firearm itself. Reports are that you can sell (3) 9mm cartridges for $10 on the street in some neighborhoods.

 

[omfgrub]

Criminals paying $100 a round for their stolen firearms? Ammo is a commodity more than the firearm itself. Reports are that you can sell (3) 9mm cartridges for $10 on the street in some neighborhoods.

If I didn't have any morals, the money would be rolling right in. You know how many 9mm I have? Hundreds. Literally... hundreds.

(Obscure reference: )

 

[fresch]

Cigs. $4.35 tax, then they tax the tax 0.08%

 

[spat]

Criminals paying $100 a round for their stolen firearms? Ammo is a commodity more than the firearm itself. Reports are that you can sell (3) 9mm cartridges for $10 on the street in some neighborhoods.

The point is criminals don't need hardly any ammo. Even if you drive the price that high for everyone it won't matter much to them.

How much ammo does it take to rob a 7-11 vs a day at a competition ?

 

[ManualF150]

The point is criminals don't need hardly any ammo. Even if you drive the price that high for everyone it won't matter much to them.

How much ammo does it take to rob a 7-11 vs a day at a competition ?

Sometimes none to rob a 7-11.

There's been a lot of robberies that police retrieve the weapon, and it's empty or fake. But they don't talk about that....

 

[Acer-m14]

finger in your hoodie pocket .. this is a stick up .. give me the cash .. how many times has that went down over the years ..

 

[Acer-m14]

and this

its fake .. its fake .. mines not .. LOL ..

Oh well, mines real! 7-11 Robbery​