Stefanik running for NY GOV.
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Well she is going to lose. NYC has too many liberal voters to overcome.
The Republican Party at the State level in NY is pretty much irrelevant.
The Republican Party at the State level in NY is pretty much irrelevant.
Comrades comrades it's all good, soon the state of NY will be run by the communist party and we will all feel the real tingle up our legs of finally living the equality dream that true communism will bring; it will be glorious!
Finally the world will see the greatness of true communism at work; what's not to like?
And you get a potato and you get a potato.
Finally the world will see the greatness of true communism at work; what's not to like?
And you get a potato and you get a potato.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Only because our Republican party makes back door deals to protect their little Long Island paradise.
Depick
.308 Win
It’s a lost cause but I’ll vote for her. I enjoyed watching her rip Hochul apart.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
How long until NY AG James starts the lawfare on Stefanik?
I dare say many feel the same way, but it should be noted that we have had Republican Governors and Zelden only lost be a precious few points...People in general have had more than enough of Hochul, there's always a chance and you can't win if you don't play.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I hate to say it but she will not win. Even if she does win she will not change much of anything but slow down “progress”
With the communist they are going to elect as NYC that is the nail in the coffin for her. Also the Republican Party will not support her or give her money. She’s largely unknown to many.
With the communist they are going to elect as NYC that is the nail in the coffin for her. Also the Republican Party will not support her or give her money. She’s largely unknown to many.
Parzival
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Even if she gets elected she’ll never accomplish anything with the house and the senate against her.
NY is a lost cause…there is no hope of fixing it.
NY is a lost cause…there is no hope of fixing it.
I also enjoyed her putting it to Hochul in that hearing.
But running for NY Gov as a Republican is pretty much a lost cause. Hochul is running, and her "absolute do nothing for his $200K salary", Lt. Gov Delgado (read about him in the NY Post, - he does nothing, and many days doesn't even show up to his office...) has announced he is running against Hochul. So, there is a very slight possibility that Delgado could take enough votes from Hochul to give Stefanik a chance, - theoretically, of course. More likely, of course, is that the NY Dems will buy him off with a 10 year judgeship or some other appointment or "job", and he will drop out. Or more likely is that the NYC voting bloc will simply overwhelm voters for Stefanik from upstate. And they will go to town to demonize her and link her to President Trump's policies.
Even on the very remote chance that Stefanik were to somehow win, she would be able to accomplish ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against the Dem super majority controlled NY Assembly and Senate. Nope, NYC is a lost cause, and when Mamdani becomes the next Mayor there, it will get even worse.
Both Pataki and Giuliani won office in the midterms of '94. That was during Slick Willie's first term as POTUS and the Republican's "Contract on with America" marketing strategy. Limbaugh was as popular as ever. Republicans had some momentum. Also, it didn't hurt that NYC crime rates were high (as now) during Koch and Dinkins admins and that Mario Cuomo was at the end of his term limit for Governor. I also think the party-line affiliations were a bit jumbled after the 3-way POTUS race of '92 - Clinton won a plurality of the popular vote, not the majority.
That said, the possibility of a Stefanik win this next midterm may hinge on a mix of Republican turnout, Independent's votes and Democrat apathy. To a large extent that will all ride on the coattails of Trump's success.
At this point I'd say there is a good chance she could win, better than any point since '94. There are parallels in terms of crime rates and shifts in party preferences. She may be our best chance. Decent name recognition, I have no doubt she will out-debate AssHochul and any gender association issue is somewhat neutralized.
One difference between now and '94 is that we didn't have the same reach of internet for those who claim to be on the Right to spread their own defeatist, apathetic, self-fulfilling prophecies of doom.
Oh yeah, I'll swing at the ball but we're going to lose anyway, is what most are saying.
Carry on. Act like losers and then blame the winners for it. The problem with this State isn't the Liberals...they are a problem whole country over...it's those who claim to be on the Right in which retreat is a viable strategy and winning is just a dream.
That said, the possibility of a Stefanik win this next midterm may hinge on a mix of Republican turnout, Independent's votes and Democrat apathy. To a large extent that will all ride on the coattails of Trump's success.
At this point I'd say there is a good chance she could win, better than any point since '94. There are parallels in terms of crime rates and shifts in party preferences. She may be our best chance. Decent name recognition, I have no doubt she will out-debate AssHochul and any gender association issue is somewhat neutralized.
One difference between now and '94 is that we didn't have the same reach of internet for those who claim to be on the Right to spread their own defeatist, apathetic, self-fulfilling prophecies of doom.
Oh yeah, I'll swing at the ball but we're going to lose anyway, is what most are saying.
Carry on. Act like losers and then blame the winners for it. The problem with this State isn't the Liberals...they are a problem whole country over...it's those who claim to be on the Right in which retreat is a viable strategy and winning is just a dream.
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Makes one wonder why we bother with anything; Gun Groups, Political Action Committees, Election Campaigns, the whole fucking gamut...all we do is bitch about loosing a battle we haven't fought.
If there's "no hope" then why even bother?
Parzival
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That’s a good question, because the people you mentioned never really get anything accomplished. And even when they try to, NY courts and law makers just ignore it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Patacki wasn’t a real republican. I was 14 when he was elected and knew that.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
i follow her on FB and she takes some shit in the comments ..
i posted a few times in some of the comments ... WOW the TDS is strong here
and got likes from her ( or staff ) who ever runs her FB .. it would be cool if it was actually her ..
i posted a few times in some of the comments ... WOW the TDS is strong here
and got likes from her ( or staff ) who ever runs her FB .. it would be cool if it was actually her ..
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
"If you like your crime rate, you can keep your crime rate"
- Kathy Hochul / probably
"If you like your high taxes, we can tax you even more"
- Kathy Hochul / most likely
- Kathy Hochul / probably
"If you like your high taxes, we can tax you even more"
- Kathy Hochul / most likely
Catskillkid
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Probably the best chance we have of getting a GOP governor. I know that Lawler wants to run too but I think he has even less name recognition. Plus it'll look like the mean old man is beating up on the poor progressive lady. At least you can't say that with Stefanik.
I get the cynicism of this group. I have it too. But honestly, this is the best chance in a long while of getting a Republican in that office. Let's say Hochul wins the Dem primary (not a given...she's deeply unpopular even in her own party) and Delgado decides to run as an Independent or third party they may split the liberal ticket. Similar thing may happen in NYC with the mayor's race this year (though I kind of doubt it). Heck. Zeldin came closer than just about anyone gave him credit for the last go around and the conditions weren't even that ideal for him.
With that being said, even if she is elected I don't expect much good to happen. There will be deadlock with likely vetoing a lot of the Democratic controlled Assembly legislation. Though that would be a far cry better than what he have now. I breath a sigh of relief after every legislative session ends. The less that gets accomplished the less chance we have of getting screwed.
I get the cynicism of this group. I have it too. But honestly, this is the best chance in a long while of getting a Republican in that office. Let's say Hochul wins the Dem primary (not a given...she's deeply unpopular even in her own party) and Delgado decides to run as an Independent or third party they may split the liberal ticket. Similar thing may happen in NYC with the mayor's race this year (though I kind of doubt it). Heck. Zeldin came closer than just about anyone gave him credit for the last go around and the conditions weren't even that ideal for him.
With that being said, even if she is elected I don't expect much good to happen. There will be deadlock with likely vetoing a lot of the Democratic controlled Assembly legislation. Though that would be a far cry better than what he have now. I breath a sigh of relief after every legislative session ends. The less that gets accomplished the less chance we have of getting screwed.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
She's the best offering we've had since Rob Asterinos first attempt. Who could've, would've, should've, won if it wasn't for our own Republican Committee throwing him under the bus for measly down state favors.
With New York City's new radical choice for mayor, Coumo's stain against women and killing elders, Hochuls ongoing , everyday disaster , I completely like her as a candidate!
With New York City's new radical choice for mayor, Coumo's stain against women and killing elders, Hochuls ongoing , everyday disaster , I completely like her as a candidate!
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
He was better than any DemonRat we’ve had run this state prior and since.
Must have been before Dominion.
Dominion will make sure Elise doesn't win.
2013 opened my eyes regarding the democrat party. They have absolutely no interest in helping anyone, being fiscally responsible, or following the very laws they insist everyone else must follow. Haven't voted for one since.
I'm not particularly fond of the republican party either, but *so far!* they haven't not seriously infringed on my rights (other than by proxy by not getting off their lazy asses and fighting against what the democrats have done). They talk about doing so, but haven't made any serious inroads...yet.
Mechanical lever machines....or lever action, if you prefer.
NYS is moving away from the Canadian-produced Dominion Machines to Nebraska-produced ES&S ExpressVote machines. I think they were rolled out in Monroe county this year. The argument now seems to be when/how the paper ballot is created. Commoncause.org is against the new machines, so that right there makes me hope maybe they'll be better than Dominion.
Ironically the mechanical machines didn't use any paper ballot but (IMO) were more secure. At least I don't recall any widespread "fraud" issues about them.
I think the arguments over what systems are used is mostly overblown. Fraud can take place anywhere between casting and reporting but it starts with who they let in the door to vote in the first place, IOW voter registration. That is the real issue they try to distract from.
Not that any of that proves anything, it'll just be another thing to blame instead of voters getting up off of *their* lazy asses.
The County Republican Party Bosses ARE a major problem: ALL seem to think the Party and it's candidates revolve around them, and quite honestly act as though they are the ones in charge and the Elect is subordinate...unless and until the clique that constitutes the Party changes, they can go fuck themselves...Oh, I'll Vote (R) or (C) but nary a dime will I give those self-serving ass-clowns.
PA Guns & Ammo
.45 acp
Lost cause. Not enough republicans to vote Hochul out. Even if Stefanik did win, how would she get any of what she wants to pass the senate and the house? The senate and house would hold her hostage. Change the senate and the house, then republicans may have a chance other than that, it is just wishful thinking.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
If NYS ever had a Governor that couldn't pass a thing,, it would be better place by a landslide!
Could be right, but conversely the Governor would also "hold hostage" the Senate and Assembly...Governor's Office does wield a lot of Power but Politically and Constitutionally, but it does take all three to actually get things done...at least telling them to fuck off, that they're not getting passage of what they want unless they have enough Votes to override a Veto at least throttles them back.
Republicans up until Dean Skelose held the Senate and well could again...the problem Republicans have is Party/Race loyalty: Blacks will vote Black, Muslims will vote Muzzy, Democrats will Vote Blue no matter who.