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The price is exactly what it should be.Thanks for the heads up, it's just disgusting to me that the price per round is double what it should be.
We’re getting there. not to long ago it was 3x’sThanks for the heads up, it's just disgusting to me that the price per round is double what it should be.
Semantics, but its still "overpriced" in my book.The price is exactly what it should be.
It's the market that's changed, because the global economy changed from lockdowns and stimulus money.
No,I think its all because of Democrats . Results from fears of losing guns every time Democrats take office, Clintons, Obama, Brandon, and locals like Cuomo, Hockul. Every time after a "mass shooting, after new gun laws hit the books. This keeps driving Fucknuts who never bought before to buy because they know they won't be able to buy later. What happened before and after the SAFE ACT? The AR's went from tripping over them in stores to "sold out" in a flash because people wanted something that they can't buy today.The price is exactly what it should be.
It's the market that's changed, because the global economy changed from lockdowns and stimulus money.
I think with the defensive ammo not changing much in price is due to two things,I don't think you'll ever see 15¢ 9mm again. I don't think you can reload for that price given the price of primers. It seems to have settled in around 40 but has been dropping into the mid 30s on occasion. Interestingly enough, quality defensive ammo is still about pre-scamdemic pricing
I think with the defensive ammo not changing much in price is due to two things,
1) most people don’t bill purchase defensive ammo for general plinking and target shooting. Most people will buy a ton of FMJ / ball ammo for plinking and target shooting, and then buy only 1-3 boxes of defensive ammo (1-2 boxes to test out how the round does in their gun, and then 1 box to keep on hand)
2) when the scamdemic /blm protesting hit, most people who had never bought/owned/or even held a gun before got scared and went out and bought one. Those people don’t have any clue about ammo types or defensive vs target vs plinking vs hunting ammo. To them ammo is ammo, and whatever the cheapest ammo they can buy they are happy with. I bet there is a lot of non gun people who become 1st time gun owners that have a bunch of ball/FMJ loaded in their 1-2 magazines and feel confident they can handle whatever trouble comes their way.
I’m not so sure. I see defensive ammo come in stock and I will see the same 20 round boxes sit on the shelf for 2-3 weeks before it sells. In regards to ball/FMJ ammo I see it come in stock and it sells out in 1-2 days at most. People will buy large quantities of ball/FMJ ammo up to large bulk orders. Even before the pandemic I never saw people in general making large bulk purchases of defensive ammo. I would be curious to see if the sales numbers of defensive ammo for units sold post pandemic is relatively close to units sold pre pandemic. I should preface I am talking mainly in regards to 9mm as that is the pistol caliber I buy the most of.I understand your theory, but I'll point out a few things.. defensive ammo still uses most of the same components as fmj/plinking ammo.
Fmj and plinking ammo is going up in price because of supply shortages and shipping/resupply issues.
Biggest issue being primers, if you can't get enough primers to fill FMJ orderes, then you don't have primers for defensive ammo either.
Actually if anything your theory could be used if the defensive ammo prices were going up, since ammo companies are trying to make more ball ammo because thats what's selling. They would pull supply from the defensive ammo to fill orders, meaning less defensive ammo being made
The supply side of both is tightly integrated as you say.I understand your theory, but I'll point out a few things.. defensive ammo still uses most of the same components as fmj/plinking ammo.
Fmj and plinking ammo is going up in price because of supply shortages and shipping/resupply issues.
Biggest issue being primers, if you can't get enough primers to fill FMJ orderes, then you don't have primers for defensive ammo either.
Actually if anything your theory could be used if the defensive ammo prices were going up, since ammo companies are trying to make more ball ammo because thats what's selling. They would pull supply from the defensive ammo to fill orders, meaning less defensive ammo being made
I’m not so sure. I see defensive ammo come in stock and I will see the same 20 round boxes sit on the shelf for 2-3 weeks before it sells. In regards to ball/FMJ ammo I see it come in stock and it sells out in 1-2 days at most. People will buy large quantities of ball/FMJ ammo up to large bulk orders. Even before the pandemic I never saw people in general making large bulk purchases of defensive ammo. I would be curious to see if the sales numbers of defensive ammo for units sold post pandemic is relatively close to units sold pre pandemic. I should preface I am talking mainly in regards to 9mm as that is the pistol caliber I buy the most of.