GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Everyone have a good night. Stay safe while clearing snow tomorrow.
Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
- Thread starter Glock_USA
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Stay safe, the NY SNOW law states all snow must be shoveled with a fork of no longer than 3".
Source: Trust me bro.
GlockModel29
.40 S&W
Lol excellent!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Most don’t have an actual frame anymore.
Vicarious
.40 S&W
Prob speaking for myself here, but I feel a lot less "Free" after 'winning" Bruen.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Sad how we can feel less free compared to the little "freedom" we had.
Bruen was a win. The problem is der fuhrer hochul doesn't feel like the USSC can tell her what to do. Der fuhrer is accountable to no one.
Maybe politicians should be held to account. If you sponsor or sign a law later deemed unconstitutional, the politician involved is personally liable for the damages and never again allowed to run for office or hold professional licenses again
Vicarious
.40 S&W
Now thats something i could get behind..
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
I guess some of you were happier when you could bitch that the NRA abandoned New York!!
But now you can still bitch that this is the NRA's fault, RIGHT??
But now you can still bitch that this is the NRA's fault, RIGHT??
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
thats because you don't have a governor, or a leader. You have a petulant, arrogant ruler that thinks you need to be lorded over. {she thinks} New Yorkers are to stupid to for critical thinking. Your Petulant child knows whats best for you. so be a good little serf and do as you're told.
OR
Move to a free state, like I, and many others did
Vicarious
.40 S&W
Stuck here, unfortunately, for about 10 years, then its adios NY.thats because you don't have a governor, or a leader. You have a petulant, arrogant ruler that thinks you need to be lorded over. {she thinks} New Yorkers are to stupid to for critical thinking. Your Petulant child knows whats best for you. so be a good little serf and do as you're told.
OR
Move to a free state, like I, and many others did
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
sadly, you and a bunch of other folks are in the same boat, good luck
There are ways to hold them accountable, and it is apparently ok as far as the Democrats go. After all, they were calling for that kind of "accountability" all through 2020.
On the other hand, I would absolutely vote for the person who runs on a platform of enforcing laws, especially against politicians who have broken them!
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Yeah, the paper permit said license to carry concealed, hunting restriction printed on the side.
The plastic permit now says..
License type: pistol permit
At bottom..
Restrictions: hunting/target
Broome is not "rolling them over". They are requiring the 16 hour course to remove restrictions.
What the permit says is irrelevant to their status.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I understand that, my point is Broome is still considering them restricted permits. This is from the PP division and judge themselves.
Vicarious
.40 S&W
Tioga has changed to Concealed Carry from "unrestricted"
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I’m no, we all feel that way. Maybe it will lead to good things eventually but I certainly may not love to see it.
ROBBARTLEY
22lr
Is there a timeline we can expect a decision from the 2nd Circuit?
I believe we're still waiting for a "special panel" to meet on the very first TRO that was stayed. They were supposed to "expedite" that panel, yet here we are like 2-3 months later and nothing. It's all a joke and a game. They will delay as long as they can. It's a win/win for them. They get what they want, meaning the law is on the books because the stay in in place, but also the final ruling wasn't made so we cannot appeal it to Supreme Court. So they've got us stuck between a rock and a hard place.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Yep, and after a while, it will just settle on in and folks will get used to it. All a mind game.
Same as the way it was with the Sullivan Act.
Don't see anyone screaming about the ammo logging. Don't see many people screaming about not being able to buy a semi-auto 22 without a permit.
Yep, settling on in, and then the courts will say, "Oh, you've been OK this long, why do we even need to discuss this any more..." and slam that hammer. NEXT CASE PLEASE!
Again, until the PEOPLE stand up, nothing will go anywhere.
Same as the way it was with the Sullivan Act.
Don't see anyone screaming about the ammo logging. Don't see many people screaming about not being able to buy a semi-auto 22 without a permit.
Yep, settling on in, and then the courts will say, "Oh, you've been OK this long, why do we even need to discuss this any more..." and slam that hammer. NEXT CASE PLEASE!
Again, until the PEOPLE stand up, nothing will go anywhere.
doesn't matter. When you or I or any person that votes for constitutional rights and freedoms pulls the lever, there are 2 people that WANT the government to control them and pay their bills, pulling the lever for those that would oppress the "givers" and give to the "takers"..
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Are you in a hurry for bad news? It wi t end well. We may end up getting a bone or two tossed out way but I wouldn’t expect much.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Guys, remember that most of this CCIA nonsense is temporary. It will get struck down. It might take another year. It’s like other civil rights movements. It can take time and some set backs .
In the meantime, use the loopholes given. I tend to be well reversed in these laws compared to most LE and this new law can be confusing as to when and what is legal for certain people .
What is on duty security officer ? And his area of employment? When are they on duty?
Get an armed security guard license because the above questions can be different for different security jobs. How is that cop to know?
Give that cop a reason to explain why he didn’t enforce that sensitive or restricted area stuff. Don’t believe that the security guard license could save you?
I remember a news story of photographer who got caught carrying a gun when he was there to do the student photos. He didn’t get arrested because he had a work contract with the school( the law has changed since then) . The police were confused if the law applied to him or not.
A armed security guard license is a pain to get but it might be worth it.
In the meantime, use the loopholes given. I tend to be well reversed in these laws compared to most LE and this new law can be confusing as to when and what is legal for certain people .
What is on duty security officer ? And his area of employment? When are they on duty?
Get an armed security guard license because the above questions can be different for different security jobs. How is that cop to know?
Give that cop a reason to explain why he didn’t enforce that sensitive or restricted area stuff. Don’t believe that the security guard license could save you?
I remember a news story of photographer who got caught carrying a gun when he was there to do the student photos. He didn’t get arrested because he had a work contract with the school( the law has changed since then) . The police were confused if the law applied to him or not.
A armed security guard license is a pain to get but it might be worth it.
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
Anyone in the southern tier/Catskills area who needs help with becoming licensed, let me know. I don't dispense legal advice, but I can hook you up with some phone numbers and websites.
HIghlander
.223 Rem
Did you renew or just went in to get the plastic card?
They made a decision on the stay. If they don't move on this, then appeal the stay itself to the Supreme Court.
you cannot have a roadblock on justice. If they don't do anything they admit there is no justice, no rule of Law, and no reason to listen to them any longer.
The system is breaking down so quickly now. It won't be long, certainly in my lifetime, when people just give up trying it "the right way".
Corrupt judges, kangaroo courts, bought-and-paid-for politicians.
More and more it is looking like there is nothing left of America.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I just changed over to the new ID, already renewed months ago.