Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

[kev74]

This one gave me a hopeful feeling.

SAF FILES FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IN CHALLENGE TO N.Y. GUN BAN - Second Amendment Foundation

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorneys representing the plaintiffs in a federal court challenge to New York’s ban on so-called “assault weapons” have filed a brief seeking summary judgment in the case, which is supported by the Second Amendment Foundation. The case is known as Lane v. Rocah. SAF and the...

saf.org

 

[libertysnake]

But we can carry everywhere else!

I bet if we ask really nicely they'll let us take a breath every 10 seconds.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I had to blow the dust off this thread lol.

 

[Willyone]

But we can carry everywhere else!

Well... we CAN carry anywhere we want to carry. Thang iz tho, there are a bunch of places where we MAY NOT carry.
I'm just being a wise ass, not to split hairs, butt, you know damn well a libtard DA will if a body makes a mistake

 

[That_FNG]

This one gave me a hopeful feeling.

SAF FILES FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT IN CHALLENGE TO N.Y. GUN BAN - Second Amendment Foundation

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorneys representing the plaintiffs in a federal court challenge to New York’s ban on so-called “assault weapons” have filed a brief seeking summary judgment in the case, which is supported by the Second Amendment Foundation. The case is known as Lane v. Rocah. SAF and the...

saf.org

What does that mean exactly?

 

[kev74]

What does that mean exactly?

The short version is that they are asking to win without the trial being completed because assault weapons are in common use therefore can't be banned based on the bruin decision.

 

[Doc8404]

Whoops.
That’s all.

 

[misunderestimated]

Thank you every one for your input.

 

[Cooolone]

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

Really is the beginning, and end to the conversation! Thinking about "allowance" reduces the RIGHT to a mere convenience, and one bestowed upon you by someone else... And that's not a RIGHT at all.

So fuck all that noise and fuck NY too!

Concealed is concealed!

 

[misunderestimated]

SO I did not see a more recent post on this, What has become of this. do we think it will ever be settled at what point is the supreme court reminded we are still in limbo a few years altter . Has the new environment with Our presedent signing an excectutive order friday help or push this along

 

[ManualF150]

SO I did not see a more recent post on this, What has become of this. do we think it will ever be settled at what point is the supreme court reminded we are still in limbo a few years altter . Has the new environment with Our presedent signing an excectutive order friday help or push this along

Keep movin' peon, nothing to see here.... Thread should be locked and the key thrown away cause a majority of us believe undoubtedly we will wake up one day, with the gestapo purple tie squad telling us to "hand'em over" in our own homes.

My best advice, go lobby down in DC or go write Trump everyday about the shitty gun laws in NY. There's a fellow (and a few of his friends) on here that is also suing NYPD. We'll see where that goes... but probably money pissed on down the toilet.

And @misunderestimated take no offense to what I said above... it's not directly pointed at you, but rather the situation we are all in.

 

[Saltwater60]

Keep movin' peon, nothing to see here.... Thread should be locked and the key thrown away cause a majority of us believe undoubtedly we will wake up one day, with the gestapo purple tie squad telling us to "hand'em over" in our own homes.

My best advice, go lobby down in DC or go write Trump everyday about the shitty gun laws in NY. There's a fellow (and a few of his friends) on here that is also suing NYPD. We'll see where that goes... but probably money pissed on down the toilet.

And @misunderestimated take no offense to what I said above... it's not directly pointed at you, but rather the situation we are all in.

I agree that next will be banning semi auto rifles and more BS. More Bs to come.

 

[FP1201]

Keep movin' peon, nothing to see here.... Thread should be locked and the key thrown away cause a majority of us believe undoubtedly we will wake up one day, with the gestapo purple tie squad telling us to "hand'em over" in our own homes.

My best advice, go lobby down in DC or go write Trump everyday about the shitty gun laws in NY. There's a fellow (and a few of his friends) on here that is also suing NYPD. We'll see where that goes... but probably money pissed on down the toilet.

And @misunderestimated take no offense to what I said above... it's not directly pointed at you, but rather the situation we are all in.

Best laid plans tend to turn to shit the second that Timer Beeps...
IF something were to go down, notifications of a pending action would be sent out to those tasked with their execution: hopefully I'll get an "anonymous tip" ahead of time, I figure I need an hour to load up, and slinking down the back roads will get me out of the State in 2~3 hours in one of three different directions.

 

[REF]

I agree that next will be banning semi auto rifles and more BS. More Bs to come.

NY has essentially banned purchasing any semiautomatic rifle for anyone that doesn't have a CC permit and/or the endorsement so we're over half way there already.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

 

[Saltwater60]

NY has essentially banned purchasing any semiautomatic rifle for anyone that doesn't have a CC permit and/or the endorsement so we're over half way there already.

And why do you think they want you to have that added to your permit? They are building a database of those that have or might have semi auto rifles to come knocking when they ban them. Get ready.

 

[Depick]

And why do you think they want you to have that added to your permit? They are building a database of those that have or might have semi auto rifles to come knocking when they ban them. Get ready.

At that point it won’t only be semi auto rifles. Anyone with a pistol permit, semi auto endorsement or purchased ammo in NYS in the last year will have a target on their back.

 

[GTN]

At that point it won’t only be semi auto rifles. Anyone with a pistol permit, semi auto endorsement or purchased ammo in NYS in the last year will have a target on their back.

And that’s exactly why I haven’t purchased any guns or ammo in this state since the last stupid laws went into effect

 

[S&W Fan]

And that’s exactly why I haven’t purchased any guns or ammo in this state since the last stupid laws went into effect

THIS ^^^^^

 

[VietnamEraVet]

THIS ^^^^^

Ditto here. Whenever I go back to NY, I never purchase ammo. Sorry for my LGS, but there is just no way that’s happening. And if I were still living there, I would have been making ammo runs to Erie, PA as needed.

 

[Old Jalopy]

The worst part is, no one is going to stop the tyranny. NO ONE! We had an EO from the current POTUS that isn't worth the paper it was printed on, courts don't give a shit and side with these illegal laws, just further etching that the corruption isn't just in NY, it goes higher up.
There will be no uprising or revolution. If that were going to happen, it would have already. If they are to come knocking, it's not going to be your local LEO's or even the state guys, it's going to be a military squad going house to house telling us to give them up or else. Imagine opening the door to 12 or so solders with full armament on the other side ordering you to comply. Or, not answering the door and them doing a breech. For those with the money, you can leave, but the reality is most of us may not have that luxury.

People also need to think about this, every store you buy from has a database on every item you have bought there. Even with cash, a gun store has a file on you. You have to show your driver's license to buy a firearm, and from there the file is created. Ever since things went electronic, you have been recorded. There's a chain of shops in the capital district owned by the same guy. If you buy something at store A, store D also knows what you bought. Cash or not. So the database was already there for any purchase you need to show ID for. BUT the ammo checks are a full blown registry, which is illegal, and no ones even batted an eye or lifted a finger to stop it. Oh, it was deemed that the social media account stuff was an invasion of privacy and removed, and a judge did rule that where one can't carry was unconstitutional, but no one has even touched on removing the laws creating a registry.

I know this isn't well liked, but I have no remorse anymore about not buying ammo from my local shops. They are reaping the rewards of our misery with hugely jacked up prices for classes and transfers. $100 for 5 minutes of work to make a transfer? $500 for a pistol class? $100-200 for an AR15 safety class that's not even mandated, but I know of at least 6 gun ranges that will not allow you to use an AR15 anymore unless you take their safety class. So one can spin it anyway they like, but gun stores and some shooting ranges are cleaning up on these laws. Hard to think someone is on my side if they are OK with bad laws and use those bad laws to take advantage of customers.

 

[Saltwater60]

The worst part is, no one is going to stop the tyranny. NO ONE! We had an EO from the current POTUS that isn't worth the paper it was printed on, courts don't give a shit and side with these illegal laws, just further etching that the corruption isn't just in NY, it goes higher up.
There will be no uprising or revolution. If that were going to happen, it would have already. If they are to come knocking, it's not going to be your local LOE's or even the state guys, it's going to be a military squad going house to house telling us to give them up or else. Imagine opening the door to 12 or so solders with full armament on the other side ordering you to comply. Or, not answering the door and them doing a breech. For those with the money, you can leave, but the reality is most of us may not have that luxury.

People also need to think about this, every store you buy from has a database on every item you have bought there. Even with cash, a gun store has a file on you. You have to show your driver's license to buy a firearm, and from there the file is created. Ever since things went electronic, you have been recorded. There's a chain of shops in the capital district owned by the same guy. If you buy something at store A, store D also knows what you bought. Cash or not. So the database was already there for any purchase you need to show ID for. BUT the ammo checks are a full blown registry, which is illegal, and no ones even batted an eye or lifted a finger to stop it. Oh, it was deemed that the social media account stuff was an invasion of privacy and removed, and a judge did rule that where one can't carry was unconstitutional, but no one has even touched on removing the laws creating a registry.

I know this isn't well liked, but I have no remorse anymore about not buying ammo from my local shops. They are reaping the rewards of our misery with hugely jacked up prices for classes and transfers. $100 for 5 minutes of work to make a transfer? $500 for a pistol class? $100-200 for an AR15 safety class that's not even mandated, but I know of at least 6 gun ranges that will not allow you to use an AR15 anymore unless you take their safety class. So one can spin it anyway they like, but gun stores and some shooting ranges are cleaning up on these laws. Hard to think someone is on my side if they are OK with bad laws and use those bad laws to take advantage of customers.

Agree with you here and many will defend a LGS. The transfer prices are nuts. Some shops by me want $75 for transfer. Well you can’t have it both ways. Either price your guns reasonably or have reasonable transfers.
As for buying ammo at a LGS i won’t do it regardless of price because the required background check. I’m against it and I simply won’t do it. I have enough stock on hand and I travel enough I’ll buy it out of state.

 

[REF]

And why do you think they want you to have that added to your permit? They are building a database of those that have or might have semi auto rifles to come knocking when they ban them. Get ready.

This is not news to anyone that has a pulse. I have not (since this background shit), and will not purchase ammo in this state ever again as long as this shit is going and the fact I’m only a stones throw away from Vermont/NH is a no brainer for me. But everyone that’s complaining about a registry and not buying any guns that has a pistol PERMIT doesn’t make any sense to me. You literally volunteered to be in a registry/database, myself included.

 

[FP1201]

At that point it won’t only be semi auto rifles. Anyone with a pistol permit, semi auto endorsement or purchased ammo in NYS in the last year will have a target on their back.

Is that the point we "say when" and it begins?
Are any coming to your aid?
Will you be shunned for not "waiting and seeing what the Courts decide?
The winners are Patriots and if you lose you're a Traitor...think long and hard; it never turns out the way you imagined it.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is not news to anyone that has a pulse. I have not (since this background shit), and will not purchase ammo in this state ever again as long as this shit is going and the fact I’m only a stones throw away from Vermont/NH is a no brainer for me. But everyone that’s complaining about a registry and not buying any guns that has a pistol PERMIT doesn’t make any sense to me. You literally volunteered to be in a registry/database, myself included.

Many people tell me I’m nuts. Many people I gun boards specific to NYS tell me I’m nuts about this. Glad to see most on here agree and know what’s coming. I refuse to get the semi auto endorsement.

 

[Acer-m14]

haven't bought ammo since the law nor a gun , in fact I haven't even took one out to shoot ..
no semi endorsement since i have all i need now ..

3 days before the law ..

 

[RooftopKorean]

Keep movin' peon, nothing to see here.... Thread should be locked and the key thrown away cause a majority of us believe undoubtedly we will wake up one day, with the gestapo purple tie squad telling us to "hand'em over" in our own homes.

My best advice, go lobby down in DC or go write Trump everyday about the shitty gun laws in NY. There's a fellow (and a few of his friends) on here that is also suing NYPD. We'll see where that goes... but probably money pissed on down the toilet.

And @misunderestimated take no offense to what I said above... it's not directly pointed at you, but rather the situation we are all in.

I didn't pay anything, the lawyer actually approached me asking if I'd like to be included in the case.

She just asked if she could use my CCW issuance delays as part of her exhibits.

 

[Acer-m14]

does she know you also have to pay for your right .. its not just about delays and hoops ..

 

[Old Jalopy]

Many people tell me I’m nuts. Many people I gun boards specific to NYS tell me I’m nuts about this. Glad to see most on here agree and know what’s coming. I refuse to get the semi auto endorsement.

Just about everyone I know who has had to renew their pistol permit just added the semi auto rifle endorsement. I guess the thought process is, "If I (not me, them) decide down the road...". I don't think I know anyone who has bought a semi auto rifle since all this, but it's possible. I know a few who bought lowers, though.



At this point, I'm not even sure a Republican governor would repeal any of it. It seems each day we see even the Republicans becoming anti-gun when it comes to politics. It sucks, but when one looks at the whole picture, we have Republicans backing a lot of these laws.

 

[Acer-m14]

the latest in the news is now you need a background check to get your fast reset trigger back from the ATF ... thanks DOJ .