TGC News some little hints

[Edwardteach72]

So I watch TGc news regularly, most of the time I already know what's going on before they put it to video but still like to listen incase anything interesting pops up.


Well here is the most recent video, and the first segment is on the new Sig bolt action rifle (one can claim it's a complete copy of Q's "Fix")

But as the video mentions it will be in 3 calibers..
.308/ 6.5 creed

And

A new 2.77 fury? 18" barrel and supposedly 140g pill going over 3,000fps (@Podmonkey)

 

[Jaywmustang]

@Edwardteach72 id like to hear a review when you get it

 

[Edwardteach72]

@Edwardteach72 id like to hear a review when you get it

To be fair price point isnt horrible (I think they said MSRP 1,600)

 

[Jaywmustang]

To be fair price point isnt horrible (I think they said MSRP 1,600)

It’s a good looking rifle and it’s light. It’s time for you to get a precision rifle

 

[Edwardteach72]

It’s a good looking rifle and it’s light. It’s time for you to get a precision rifle

Trust me I keep thinking about that and as much as I dont like Sig USA it really does seem like a decent option

 

[Jaywmustang]

Trust me I keep thinking about that and as much as I dont like Sig USA it really does seem like a decent option

I would want to be their piggy pig. Ruger rpr has a good track record. Eurooptics has a left over desert tech srs a1 chassis on clearance if you are looking......don’t look at the price lol.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I would want to be their piggy pig. Ruger rpr has a good track record. Eurooptics has a left over desert tech srs a1 chassis on clearance if you are looking......don’t look at the price lol.

Yea my buddy has the fix by 1 and he likes it but I think it I go precision I would want to "build" my own or work from something with a track record.

But I like the weight of this making it a decent duel purpose and could be used as a hunting rifle. Maybe not in that 2.7 round

 

[Jaywmustang]

Yea my buddy has the fix by 1 and he likes it but I think it I go precision I would want to "build" my own or work from something with a track record.

But I like the weight of this making it a decent duel purpose and could be used as a hunting rifle. Maybe not in that 2.7 round

The weight is definitely good for hunting but precision rifles are not known to be super light. I think it would be great as a predator hunting rig if the accuracy is there

 

[96coal449]

I forget where but the Sig tactical in the Sig Fury .277 cartridge sparked an interest in me. Funny now that I run into your thread. I talked for a bit with a guy I know and he told me it was developed for the new Army requirement of 6.8 in a belt fed. The round that is. Any way he continued on to tell me the pressure this puppy generates hits 80,000 psi. A damn barrel eater for sure. If Sig is not offering their barrel with a chrome liner one could expect a 1500 rd life. I was still interested even if the barrel wasn't chromed lined, figuring a custom barrel could be had if not offered by Sig. A 6.7 lb tactical precision bolt rifle at $1600? Fuck yea.

So last week I pop in my LGS to shoot the shit with my buddy who also owns the place. He hadn't heard anything about it, which I found unusual for knowing him. I shared with him what I already knew. His employee knew a little about it and said wait time to receive on is running into July if ordered now. Instant boner drop. I don't like a 6 mon wait after an order for much of anything. Let alone a rifle for the junkie I am. i look over on the opposite counter and I spot a remmy. Yea I know ..... a Remmy. A Remington SPS, .308, 20'' heavy barrel, in a Magpul tactical stock with a Magpul bi-pod. Looked at the price tag of a little over $1600. Guess what's on layaway?

Hi My name is coal. I am an addict. Proudly!

 

[Podmonkey]

That rifle is cery similar to the fix, but at less than half the cost so........... good. Actually the Sig's new rifle is, probably unintentionally, a new take on Jeff Cooper's old scout rifle concept. Seems best suited as a hunting gun either in the woods or in the mountains where its light weight and compact size would be helpful. As for the cartridge, it now seems the .277 is intended to replace the 7.62x51 now. I will bet anyone $20 the the Army will carry on for another year or so before rightly deciding the juice isn't worth the squeeze here. But with the long running modern trend of long guns with short barrels there are pletny of commercial applications for cartridges that deliver full performance from carbine form factors.

Oh, the new Python looks great!

 

[ManrisFrack]

.277 SIG Fury Demystified

Speculation on the .277 SIG Fury has practically broken the internet. GunsAmerica spoke directly with SIG to get the scoop on this revolutionary cartridge.

www.gunsamerica.com

If this lives up to everything claimed in the article, this will definitely be an interesting development and probably worth putting the money down for. 140gr @ 3000+ FPS in a carbine sized package? Don't mind if I do.

 

[Defilade]

I see Daniel Defense got into the bolt gun market.. not cheap though.

 

[Jaywmustang]

I see Daniel Defense got into the bolt gun market.. not cheap though.

i like that you can change the barrel at home vs a gunsmith

 

[Acer-m14]

Jack O'Connor ...
O'Connor wrote of loading his .270s a bit hotter than I do. His load was 62 grains of H4831 pushing a 130-grain bullet at about 3,200 fps. He must have used a super drop tube for those loads as that has to be a really compressed load.

in my load books using 4350 its up at 3300 if i remember correctly .. nothing mentioned on drop tubes ..
never have pushed it to max (hunting) load with my savage .. 2800 to 3000 works ..

and i don't need special steel backed brass shells ..

.270 to .277 .. what am i missing ?? i like to learn sometimes ..

 

[ManrisFrack]

It's basically .270 Win power from a short action cartridge (that will fit in all the AR-10 mags, where long action cartridges won't). The biggest advantage is that it supposedly does this from a 16" barrel. Compare to the Hornady 140gr SST Superformance load at 3090fps that is tested in a 24" barrel.

In longer barrels, I would imagine that the Fury will run close to the 270 WSM. Of course it'll probably hit diminishing returns at shorter barrel lengths than the WSM but conversely, the WSM probably won't hang with the Fury with 18" and shorter barrels.

Just a different way to skin the cat that provides a few specific advantages over other ways. If they've really figured out how to make the guns hold up to 80ksi, and the military adopts a bi-metal case (giving enough volume to perfect manufacture and drop costs) it'll create a whole new family of cartridges that everyone will chase. Just think what happens if they can run the current batch of magnums at 80ksi versus ~65ksi.