That’s my President

[Edwardteach72]

I hate when people say that. Obama took away foreign, imported, military style firearms like the AK away. He most definitely would have signed and anti-gun bill that was placed on this desk. He even cried because the Republicans wouldn't pass any. Come on.

Obama banned the import of Saiga rifles from the Izhmash factory. That's the only AK that was banned from import under obama....


Trump doubled down and banned the import of Vepr rifles which are made in the Molot factory.

So that was a cute try to make it seem like Obama killed the AK import

Oh and it was Reagan or Bush Sr that banned the import of non sport rifles

 

[Shadow rider]

He was elected for other reasons. The 2A isn't on everyone's minds like it is for us.

This is the point I was trying to make in my earlier post.

 

[Robin]

When the team become a single issue electorate the opposition will do an end run.
Robin

 

[Marine Cpl]

Obama banned the import of Saiga rifles from the Izhmash factory. That's the only AK that was banned from import under obama....


Trump doubled down and banned the import of Vepr rifles which are made in the Molot factory.

So that was a cute try to make it seem like Obama killed the AK import

Oh and it was Reagan or Bush Sr that banned the import of non sport rifles

Wasn't cute. Didn't know that. I don't try to be cute with hairy dudes.

But the point still stands when people say Obama wasn't for gun control. Everyone is.

 

[NY Chamorro]

Hahhaa right moment? Imagine if he was president and during that time both the house and Senate were controlled by Republicans. Man if only an awesome moment like that came around

Imagine if we had a hardcore gun grabbing President in Office, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Like it or not, gun control comes from both parties. You vote a democrat in there and you get pistol grip type gun control. You vote a republican in there and you get bump stock " nobody should have automatic type guns" gun control. It is what it is and you basically have to vote the better of the two.

Other issues is why people voted for Trump and other issues is why they will vote for him again. And when it comes down to it, in the end there are only two you can choose from.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Wasn't cute. Didn't know that. I don't try to be cute with hairy dudes.

But the point still stands when people say Obama wasn't for gun control. Everyone is.

I never said Obama wasnt for gun control. He was, just like every other potus in our life time, all I said was more had been passed under Trump than Obama

Imagine if we had a hardcore gun grabbing President in Office, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

Lol imagine if Hitler resurfaced in America cause he never killed himself and had fake documents showing he was a US citizen born here and ran and became president...

Sorry hyperbolic arguements don't hold up all that well..

 

[Edwardteach72]

Like it or not, gun control comes from both parties. You vote a democrat in there and you get pistol grip type gun control. You vote a republican in there and you get bump stock " nobody should have automatic type" gun control. It is what it is and you basically have to vote the better of the two.

Other issues is why people voted for Trump and other issues is why they will vote for him again. And when it comes down to it, in the end there are only two you can choose from.

Ah yes the other promises. I am getting a little tired of the news feed of the president of Mexico bitching about all the money they are spending on our wall

 

[NY Chamorro]

I never said Obama wasnt for gun control. He was, just like every other potus in our life time, all I said was more had been passed under Trump than Obama



Lol imagine if Hitler resurfaced in America cause he never killed himself and had fake documents showing he was a US citizen born here and ran and became president...

Sorry hyperbolic arguements don't hold up all that well..

The problem with your imagination, is that it could never happen, it was very possible that a gun grabbing president could have happened in our present time...

 

[Marine Cpl]

Ah yes the other promises. I am getting a little tired of the news feed of the president of Mexico bitching about all the money they are spending on our wall

Well that's you. The majority who voted for him don't think like you as evidenced by the packed places he goes to today. Even with the Vepr and bump stocks, they still pack the houses for him. They still wear their red hats out in public. They still stand tall when they see him. Even the military.

Most of those people aren't affected with gun control because they have their AR's. Ahh. Fuck a bump stock and a Vepr. Go Trump. That's how they see it. They don't see it like you see it because they can have things unlike you who can't have anything.

That's why you are different from them.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Ah yes the other promises. I am getting a little tired of the news feed of the president of Mexico bitching about all the money they are spending on our wall

Well with the new trade deal, they kind of are. Not directly but indirectly they will if Congress allowed it to ever gets built.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Well with the new trade deal, they kind of are. Not directly but indirectly they will if Congress allowed it to ever gets built.

Now you sound like one of his blind supporters (and I know you are not) campaign was they will pay for it not well we will fund it and then due to trade agreements its like they are paying for it in the long run

The good news is Hillary is in jail, so 1 out of 3 promises (or 1.5 if you look at the trade deals) isnt bad

 

[Marine Cpl]

Now you sound like one of his blind supporters (and I know you are not) campaign was they will pay for it not well we will fund it and then due to trade agreements its like they are paying for it in the long run

The good news is Hillary is in jail, so 1 out of 3 promises (or 1.5 if you look at the trade deals) isnt bad

No I'm not. Just stating the obvious. I know he isn't perfect. No one is. If we ever get a real 2A supporter, he will fail on other issues. That's just how it is. We've never had a President that's been 100 percent for all the people that voted for him. It's impossible. All people are different with different priorities.

If we get a real 2A supporter there will be an Edwardteach somewhere who will bitch about trade deals or some other crap.

 

[Edwardteach72]

No I'm not. Just stating the obvious. I know he isn't perfect. No one is. If we ever get a real 2A supporter, he will fail on other issues. That's just how it is. We've never had a President that's been 100 percent for all the people that voted for him. It's impossible. All people are different with different priorities.

If we get a real 2A supporter there will be an Edwardteach somewhere who will bitch about trade deals or some other crap.

You were literally twisting a last minute policy into him following through on a campaign promise of Mexico paying for a wall

 

[Marine Cpl]

You were literally twisting a last minute policy into him following through on a campaign promise of Mexico paying for a wall

Did you really think that he was going to send Mexico a bill? I don't think anyone with a brain on how things work actually believed that. Maybe dumb hillbillies did but anyone who knows anything about economics knows that it could never work that way.

 

[GOPerfect]

Dude hasn't done shit about 2A so he can go scratch at the moment.

Serious question. Hopefully a serious answer will follow.


What exactly would you and others like the President to accomplish?

Sure, @Willjr75 brought up one point that he could undo Obummers EO. What else?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Just like I'm sure you don't really believe that you personally pay for the food stamps for the lady down the road with 5 kids.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Did you really think that he was going to send Mexico a bill? I don't think anyone with a brain on how things work actually believed that. Maybe dumb hillbillies did but anyone who knows anything about economics knows that it could never work that way.

And just like anyone with a brain can see that building a wall is a complete waste of money and time

 

[GOPerfect]

When I began my support for Trump a few years back, through the election and onward to today; the 2A is one of the farthest things from my mind. I supported him and voted for him for many, many other reasons and issues. Far more important issues than gun control at the Federal Level.

 

[GOPerfect]

And just like anyone with a brain can see that building a wall is a complete waste of money and time

Absolutely not a waste of time or money.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Did you really think that he was going to send Mexico a bill? I don't think anyone with a brain on how things work actually believed that. Maybe dumb hillbillies did but anyone who knows anything about economics knows that it could never work that way.

And if that was his original intent why has it taken 2 years to start going that way and other failed attempts at funding the wall? It's not like this plan was the one he started with right out of the gate

 

[Edwardteach72]

Absolutely not a waste of time or money.

100% waste of time and money

 

[GOPerfect]

100% waste of time and money

Ever spend time on the southern boarder? Ever see the good sections of wall/fence that keep all of them away?

You seem to be quite clueless in this, that though, is okay. Show your ignorance on the subject of the wall.

Curious, why do you think it is a waste?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Ever spend time on the southern boarder? Ever see the good sections of wall/fence that keep all of them away?

You seem to be quite clueless in this, that though, is okay. Show your ignorance on the subject of the wall.

Curious, why do you think it is a waste?

Hahah yea ok, there is plenty of evidence that a wall completely lining the boarder is pointless

 

[libertysnake]

What can he do besides rescind the Obama executive order that banned imports like the Saiga? It's not like he's a king that can decree gun rights. Congress has to put them on his desk.

The 9th circuit court seems to have no problem acting like kings...

 

[GOPerfect]

Hahah yea ok, there is plenty of evidence that a wall completely lining the boarder is pointless

Wanna share all this evidence?

Any chance that you will answer the questions I posted?

It's okay if you don't/can't

 

[libertysnake]

Dude. The 2A is just fine federally. It's only about 5 states that have awb's. What do you want him to do? Recind the federal AWB that doesn't exist?

I’d like him to point the justice department at rogue governors like Cuomo, on the grounds they keep people from exercising 2A freely.

Still, none of that matters so long as we have kings on the bench of the SCOTUS. They’ll keep allowing it.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Wanna share all this evidence?

Any chance that you will answer the questions I posted?

It's okay if you don't/can't

There is already walls and fences up? Yes? In specific areas yes? Why waste money adding walls to areas that legit dont need them, fix the areas we already fucking have properly outfit and fund boarder patrol

 

[NY Chamorro]

I’d like him to point the justice department at rogue governors like Cuomo, on the grounds they keep people from exercising 2A freely.

Still, none of that matters so long as we have kings on the bench of the SCOTUS. They’ll keep allowing it.

hell, he can't even keep them off his own ass, let alone point them in another direction.....the presidents been fighting all the liberals and the rhinos since he's been in office.....

 

[GOPerfect]

There is already walls and fences up? Yes? In specific areas yes? Why waste money adding walls to areas that legit dont need them, fix the areas we already fucking have properly outfit and fund boarder patrol

So, you really have little idea of what is really happening on the boarder? You are clueless to real life there. Again, it is okay not to understand the truth; most Americans don't. You are on par with the majority of America.