The enforcement problems with gun-grabbing ‘red flag’ laws are even worse than you think

[livingston]

The enforcement problems with gun-grabbing ‘red flag’ laws are even worse than you think
Everyone is debating “red flag” laws like they’re some new thing, but California has had variations of them for decades. We call them domestic violence restraining orders, civil harassment restraining orders, workplace restraining orders, elder abuse restraining orders, mental health seizures and prohibition orders, and, more recently, gun violence restraining orders.
They’re all meant to disarm dangerous people — but they’re all fundamentally flawed.

None of these red flag laws would have prevented recent mass shootings. And in my 23 years practicing law in the heart of Silicon Valley, I have litigated dozens of these cases. I’ve seen firsthand the practical enforcement problems that emerge in real-life cases
The enforcement problems with gun-grabbing ‘red flag’ laws are even worse than you think

 

[Cooolone]

Red Flag laws aren't about preventing anything!

All they are is an end around gun seizure program which completely circumvents the right to due process!

 

[prambo]

Red Flag laws aren't about preventing anything!

All they are is an end around gun seizure program which completely circumvents the right to due process!

AKA - the final step to a Maoist fUSA.

 

[ManrisFrack]

Something just occurred to me...

How vulnerable are small gun shops to harassment under these laws? If it's a one or two man shop, I'd think it would be nearly impossible for the business to survive one of these red flag claims brought against the FFL holder.

 

[Podmonkey]

Do not comply. LE, do not enforce.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Something just occurred to me...

How vulnerable are small sun shops to harassment under these laws? If it's a one or two man shop, I'd think it would be nearly impossible for the business to survive one of these red flag claims brought against the FFL holder.

What do tanning booths have to do with this?

 

[Acer-m14]

now Tanning shops with a FFL .. could be a great idea .. @Carlos Hathcock

Guns and Sun Tanning ..

i'm gunna pitch that to my Friends wife who works at a ffl store here .. and she goes tanning too .. she might get on this lol ..

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

now Tanning shops with a FFL .. could be a great idea .. @Carlos Hathcock

Guns and Sun Tanning ..

i'm gunna pitch that to my Friends wife who works at a ffl store here .. and she goes tanning too .. she might get on this lol ..

If this takes off I get my cut.

 

[Deplorable Me]

now Tanning shops with a FFL .. could be a great idea .. @Carlos Hathcock

Guns and Sun Tanning ..

i'm gunna pitch that to my Friends wife who works at a ffl store here .. and she goes tanning too .. she might get on this lol ..

I hate tan lines with my holster.

 

[camper4lyfe]

now Tanning shops with a FFL .. could be a great idea .. @Carlos Hathcock

Guns and Sun Tanning ..

i'm gunna pitch that to my Friends wife who works at a ffl store here .. and she goes tanning too .. she might get on this lol ..

Sun's Out Guns Out Tanning

 

[ManrisFrack]

If this takes off I get my cut.

Screw you. It was MY idea.

 

[Blimey]

Fucking hell. That damn article has TWO auto play videos, both unrelated to the article. This is the shittiest trend in web sites since they started shitting ads all over the place (largely controlled via ad block, thankfully).

As for this, I read the article and yep it is ripe for abuse.

 

[That IdiotWayne]

Something just occurred to me...

How vulnerable are small gun shops to harassment under these laws? If it's a one or two man shop, I'd think it would be nearly impossible for the business to survive one of these red flag claims brought against the FFL holder.

... Oh shit.

 

[Acer-m14]

Sun's Out Guns Out Tanning

she got a kick out of it and the owner of the FFL was there too when i told her LOL .

she liked the idea , but would be more on top of what they do now ..

she got a good laugh over it ..