ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
So many maps of this shit. What's the truth?
The Texas National Guard has seized control of Eagle Pass / Update; Texas troopers have begun arresting illegals
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Uninformed and Compliant
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He cannot do so.
It requires the consent of THE TEXAS GOVERNOR.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The Border Patrol is subject to arrest :
(A)Any person who—
(i)
knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii)
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii)
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv)
encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I)
engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II)
aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alienin respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(i)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
(ii)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
(iii)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
(iv)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
(C)
It is not a violation of clauses [1] (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), or of clause (iv) of subparagraph (A) except where a person encourages or induces an alien to come to or enter the United States, for a religious denomination having a bona fide nonprofit, religious organization in the United States, or the agents or officers of such denomination or organization, to encourage, invite, call, allow, or enable an alien who is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister or missionary for the denomination or organization in the United States as a volunteer who is not compensated as an employee, notwithstanding the provision of room, board, travel, medical assistance, and other basic living expenses, provided the minister or missionary has been a member of the denomination for at least one year.
(2)Any person who, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien shall, for each alien in respect to whom a violation of this paragraph occurs—
(A)
be fined in accordance with title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; or
(B)in the case of—
(i)
an offense committed with the intent or with reason to believe that the alien unlawfully brought into the United States will commit an offense against the United States or any State punishable by imprisonment for more than 1 year,
(ii)
an offense done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(iii)
an offense in which the alien is not upon arrival immediately brought and presented to an appropriate immigration officer at a designated port of entry,
be fined under title 18 and shall be imprisoned, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(iii), not more than 10 years, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii), not less than 3 nor more than 10 years, and for any other violation, not less than 5 nor more than 15 years.
(3)
(A)
Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in subparagraph (B) shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both.
(B)An alien described in this subparagraph is an alienwho—
(i)
is an unauthorized alien (as defined in section 1324a(h)(3) of this title), and
(ii)
has been brought into the United States in violation of this subsection.
(4)In the case of a person who has brought aliens into the United Statesin violation of this subsection, the sentence otherwise provided for may be increased by up to 10 years if—
(A)
the offense was part of an ongoing commercial organization or enterprise;
(B)
aliens were transported in groups of 10 or more; and
(C)
(i)
aliens were transported in a manner that endangered their lives; or
(ii)
the aliens presented a life-threatening health risk to people in the United States.
8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
(A)Any person who—
(i)
knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii)
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii)
knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv)
encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I)
engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II)
aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alienin respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(i)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
(ii)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
(iii)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
(iv)
in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
(C)
It is not a violation of clauses [1] (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), or of clause (iv) of subparagraph (A) except where a person encourages or induces an alien to come to or enter the United States, for a religious denomination having a bona fide nonprofit, religious organization in the United States, or the agents or officers of such denomination or organization, to encourage, invite, call, allow, or enable an alien who is present in the United States to perform the vocation of a minister or missionary for the denomination or organization in the United States as a volunteer who is not compensated as an employee, notwithstanding the provision of room, board, travel, medical assistance, and other basic living expenses, provided the minister or missionary has been a member of the denomination for at least one year.
(2)Any person who, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien shall, for each alien in respect to whom a violation of this paragraph occurs—
(A)
be fined in accordance with title 18 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; or
(B)in the case of—
(i)
an offense committed with the intent or with reason to believe that the alien unlawfully brought into the United States will commit an offense against the United States or any State punishable by imprisonment for more than 1 year,
(ii)
an offense done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or
(iii)
an offense in which the alien is not upon arrival immediately brought and presented to an appropriate immigration officer at a designated port of entry,
be fined under title 18 and shall be imprisoned, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(iii), not more than 10 years, in the case of a first or second violation of subparagraph (B)(i) or (B)(ii), not less than 3 nor more than 10 years, and for any other violation, not less than 5 nor more than 15 years.
(3)
(A)
Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in subparagraph (B) shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both.
(B)An alien described in this subparagraph is an alienwho—
(i)
is an unauthorized alien (as defined in section 1324a(h)(3) of this title), and
(ii)
has been brought into the United States in violation of this subsection.
(4)In the case of a person who has brought aliens into the United Statesin violation of this subsection, the sentence otherwise provided for may be increased by up to 10 years if—
(A)
the offense was part of an ongoing commercial organization or enterprise;
(B)
aliens were transported in groups of 10 or more; and
(C)
(i)
aliens were transported in a manner that endangered their lives; or
(ii)
the aliens presented a life-threatening health risk to people in the United States.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
But can Texas LE enforce federal laws? We know the DOJ won't do it - at least with this administration.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Good point.
Uninformed and Compliant
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I don't think they can.
If they have state laws about misprision of office, criminal facilitation, duty to act, etc?
THOSE are within scope. I'm not sure the average Border Patroller is the proper target, however.
If Texas has something akin to NY's coercion law, it'd go a long, long way against Fed lawyers and politicians, down there, when they conspire to illegally remove that fence.
Uninformed and Compliant
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
That's for the courts to decide, but they absolutely *can* arrest them and force the courts to take it up.
I'm not sure if it makes a difference what the courts decide in the end. Texas arresting federal agents and holding them for trial would be enough to seriously escalate this shit show.
They are, like any of our Armed Forces, a volunteer army.
They will become split along the political lines of the members.
Based on where they live I have a fairly confident projection that the majority will side with Texas against the criminals.
And, if Brandon is stupid enough to try to use the actual Army, I forsee a similar split in those ranks.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It might really come down to who has more guns and manpower at the time.
It gets ugly really fast if Biden pulls that card. Many units might potentially mutiny against the feds and remain loyal to the state governor not Washington.
Since Biden is backing himself into a corner where it's becoming harder to save face by the hour and he has a long and storied career of progressively worse judgment and poor decision making I'm sure he's probably considering doing just that.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
UPDATE: BIDEN ISSUES 24 HR ULTIMATUM - Trump Declares Willing States Should Deploy Their National Guard's To Southern Border To Stop Invasion - CDM - Human Reporters • Not Machines
President Trump called for 'all willing states' to deploy their National Guard to the souther border to aid Texas to repel the invasion of the nation.
creativedestructionmedia.com
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
"Anti-federalist"....WTF!
No sovereign state would ever have ratified the U.S. Constitution in the first place if it was perceived as a suicide pact.
Texas is acting WITHIN the letter of the federal constitution. Thus, Texas and their supporters are pro-federal constitution and seek to protect the national republic. They merely insist that the federal government live up to their obligations under that same constitution.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I've heard Brandon's ilk try to argue, "They need to take down the fences so we can do our job to help protect the border."
UPDATE: BIDEN ISSUES 24 HR ULTIMATUM - Trump Declares Willing States Should Deploy Their National Guard's To Southern Border To Stop Invasion - CDM - Human Reporters • Not Machines
President Trump called for 'all willing states' to deploy their National Guard to the souther border to aid Texas to repel the invasion of the nation.
The election of 1860 says hello
Arresting them? High time for more..........drastic measures.
Bigfoot
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stokes
.338 Win Mag
Canon fodder needs no education.
Uninformed and Compliant
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Especially if they're not citizens and don't speak English.
Uninformed and Compliant
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Vinson57
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Here is the basic demonrat propaganda they spread by memes.
What not mentioned by anyone is all deals are rejected as they include amnesty
What not mentioned by anyone is all deals are rejected as they include amnesty
Compacts and Contracts once broken are invalid unless the injured Party agrees to overlook the egregious act that violated the terms.
As for Fort Hood (has a new PC name now) The Soldiers there COULD be ordered to mobilize, bus short of a RDF, it would take several days to make movement, and those of you crying "Posse Comitatus" know that the NDAA effectively gutted the Act and the spin masters would argue that NG and TX Employees for this purpose are not "Citizens" but criminals and insurrectionists....see how easy that word is abused when not properly and appropriately addressed.
jimc
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The funniest part about the states who support Texas is that NY and IL DON'T support Texas. NYC and Chicago are the LOUDEST complainers about the 'migrants' but don't support Texas in keeping them out. Strange how easily it could be fixed by closing the border, but NY and IL don't support the solution.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
No way NY or other flaming liberal states would join in. They are busy plugging holes in the dyke with every appendage they have. The floodgates of change would open if they joined in because it would show the hypocrisy of their policy and their narrative. They have to see this through to their bitter end. No different than all of those people that STILL push the clot shot that know the jig is up on that.
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
The American Free Shit Army should organize and go to the Southern border and join Texas.
At the minimum in an attempt to protect all of the free shit that is rightfully theirs.
The American Free Shit Army may act like turd worlders, but at least their our turd worlders.
Wait, what?
At the minimum in an attempt to protect all of the free shit that is rightfully theirs.
The American Free Shit Army may act like turd worlders, but at least their our turd worlders.
Wait, what?
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TEOTWAWKI inc.
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It's because all the democrats are still focused on the most important issue of our time - abortion. I see way more news about that than the border.
Uninformed and Compliant
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We just need a major rally of illegals AGAINST abortion, lol