The Yankee Marshal

[Airborneguy]

But if I ran into you in a traffic stop for some infraction for example in your neighborhood and we didn't know each other, you wouldn't be my friend now would you.

But see this here is the problem with your premise. Policing today has changed a lot, you're right about that. We're specialized now. All departments do this except the smallest of the small. I don't conduct car stops. I legitimately do not know how to write a summons in NYC anymore because the system has changed to all digital since I last did stuff like that.

That's just me for an example, but there are plenty of others. We have neighborhood coordination officers whose entire job is driven by community complaints. The only enforcement activity they undertake is directly related to complaints from people in their sector, IE, victims. How is a cop enforcing laws against perps directly in response to community complaints not a "friend" of those citizens who've called up them specifically to address those conditions?

You paint this picture that has all cops driving around in cars eagle eyed looking for spurious examples of traffic violations, maybe trying to a search, or as part of crack teams of warrant executors out there busting down doors to shoot helpless dogs. That's not reality anymore (pretty much never was actually). And to make matters worse, the 50 years ago hero cop you mention definitely violated more rights than any modern cop could ever imagine whether they wanted to or not.

I'm sure we could hang out btw. You're not a troll like others. We just differ in opinion.

 

[Marine Cpl]

But see this here is the problem with your premise. Policing today has changed a lot, you're right about that. We're specialized now. All departments do this except the smallest of the small. I don't conduct car stops. I legitimately do not know how to write a summons in NYC anymore because the system has changed to all digital since I last did stuff like that.

That's just me for an example, but there are plenty of others. We have neighborhood coordination officers whose entire job is driven by community complaints. The only enforcement activity they undertake is directly related to complaints from people in their sector, IE, victims. How is a cop enforcing laws against perps directly in response to community complaints not a "friend" of those citizens who've called up them specifically to address those conditions?

You paint this picture that has all cops driving around in cars eagle eyed looking for spurious examples of traffic violations, maybe trying to a search, or as part of crack teams of warrant executors out there busting down doors to shoot helpless dogs. That's not reality anymore (pretty much never was actually). And to make matters worse, the 50 years ago hero cop you mention definitely violated more rights than any modern cop could ever imagine whether they wanted to or not.

I'm sure we could hang out btw. You're not a troll like others. We just differ in opinion.

Forget it. You don't get it or don't want to.

 

[Airborneguy]

I’ve been trying to tell you that for awhile.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I’ve been trying to tell you that for awhile.

It seems to be from your end I believe.

 

[Airborneguy]

That’s fine, I’ve no problem saying where my opinion leans. Doesn’t mean I swear fealty to Cuomo. It means that I believe the police are geared towards helping the people who need it.

 

[Doc8404]

Guys looking for power become State Troopers. Some at the age of 22.

FIFY

 

[Truebeliever]

FIFY

That’s not my quote. Responded to the quote

 

[Truebeliever]

Forget it. You don't get it or don't want to.

I think we who have actually done this job are telling you that you have little idea of what actually happened in the past or now.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I think we who have actually done this job are telling you that you have little idea of what actually happened in the past or now.

I don't know what that has to do with the police not being the friends of the citizenry but if it makes you feel better to think that since you have done the job, I don't know what to tell you.

The fact of the matter is that it's impossible to be friends of the citizenry if your job is to police them.

 

[Truebeliever]

I don't know what that has to do with the police not being the friends of the citizenry but if it makes you feel better to think that since you have done the job, I don't know what to tell you.

The fact of the matter is that it's impossible to be friends of the citizenry if your job is to police them.

I disagree. Not all of them to be sure but most. If fairly and evenly enforced, most adults know when it was their mess up.

I have been invited to the homes of people i have arrested. I have had good laughs with people I have arrested when i meet them later. Those are only some.

Mostly mutual respect is the usual. Some will just hate .

Here is a movie example. Explicit Language

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I disagree. Not all of them to be sure but most. If fairly and evenly enforced, most adults know when it was their mess up.

I have been invited to the homes of people i have arrested. I have had good laughs with people I have arrested when i meet them later. Those are only some.

Mostly mutual respect is the usual. Some will just hate .

Here is a movie example. Explicit Language

This is a movie. This doesn't happen in real life.

 

[nortatoga]

One would not be much of a friend to break a law in front of a Cop they called a friend, Now would they?

 

[Truebeliever]

This is a movie. This doesn't happen in real life.

You have no idea what you are talking about. It does happen where mutual respect can be achieved. I have know where gangster type beat the [ blank] out of someone for attempting to hurt a cop he respected. It was way after the incident and occurred when he heard about it. That cop would arrest the gangsta all the time and heceould resist but the cop treated him with respect after the cuffs were on.

It was the cost of doing business.

Sometimes it was the detective who picked them up on a warrant but ignored the drugs ( like weed or a crack pipe) all around them. The guy would talk to him.

By the way David Ayer the writer and director gets a lot of his scenes from antedotes of real cops.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Are these former cops and cops blind here? Of course there are good cops. Of course many cops go out of their way to do good things. That doesn't mean that the police are your friends as a whole.

When one group of people is given power to subjugate another, they can't be friends. They can do nice things to each other occasionally but they can't be friends because the minute those that they subjugate step out of line, there is no more friendship.

It's a very simple concept to understand.

 

[Truebeliever]

Are these former cops and cops blind here? Of course there are good cops. Of course many cops go out of their way to do good things. That doesn't mean that the police are your friends as a whole.

When one group of people is given power to subjugate another, they can't be friends. They can do nice things to each other occasionally but they can't be friends because the minute those that they subjugate step out of line, there is no more friendship.

It's a very simple concept to understand.

Clearly you don’t have friends who are cops. By your measure, one can’t be friends with their boss, one can’t be friends .
My friend was arrested for DWI. I asked why didn’t he call me when he got arrested. I could at least brought him some food or something. He said,I didn’t want to embarrass you. That’s why he is still a friend despite his issues.

Most of my friends aren’t cops .

But the point wasn’t about cops making friends but trying to dispel the myth of cops caring more about civil rights in the past or less likely to use force or not enforce the law.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Clearly you don’t have friends who are cops.

Haha. Clearly you are wrong.

 

[Marine Cpl]

But the point wasn’t about cops making friends but trying to dispel the myth of cops caring more about civil rights in the past or less likely to use force or not enforce the law.

Did cops shoot and kill kids with cap guns and water guns playing cowboys and Indians in the past in the numbers that they are doing it now?

How about on kids bring pocket knives to schools? Were they arrested in the past?

 

[Truebeliever]

Did cops shoot and kill kids with cap guns and water guns playing cowboys and Indians in the past in the numbers that they are doing it now?

How about on kids bring pocket knives to schools? Were they arrested in the past?

The answer is yes

 

[Jem45472]

You can't really generalize. All cops are different people. I have a sheriff friend who I grew up with. If I wanted to bury a body, he would probably help me do it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

The answer is yes

How come I am not dead then?

 

[nortatoga]

How come I am not dead then?

The Lord works in mysterious ways!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

You have no idea what you are talking about. It does happen where mutual respect can be achieved. I have know where gangster type beat the [ blank] out of someone for attempting to hurt a cop he respected. It was way after the incident and occurred when he heard about it. That cop would arrest the gangsta all the time and heceould resist but the cop treated him with respect after the cuffs were on.

It was the cost of doing business.

Sometimes it was the detective who picked them up on a warrant but ignored the drugs ( like weed or a crack pipe) all around them. The guy would talk to him.

By the way David Ayer the writer and director gets a lot of his scenes from antedotes of real cops.

Lol ok. So there was an incident of a cop putting his gun and badge down and fighting a perp. If you say so.

 

[Truebeliever]

Lol ok. So there was an incident of a cop putting his gun and badge down and fighting a perp. If you say so.

More than once. Back in the late 80s -early 90s . It definitely happened . I saw it.

 

[Airborneguy]

Haha I tried to stop someone I worked with from doing it but failed. She lost a spot in mounted that she was days away from starting.

 

[E the massive]

More than once. Back in the late 80s -early 90s . It definitely happened . I saw it.

Details my man details!!! Don't leave me hanging.

 

[Truebeliever]

Details my man details!!! Don't leave me hanging.

Back then, bad guys would mouth off and call out a cop for “being nothing without that badge”. Sometimes a cop would take them up on it. Just like the movie.

These were tough guys who would never make it in today’s world.