Things are heating up in the Donbass

Acer-m14 · May 13, 2023

sending all kinds of shit to money washing machine ..

while our Sothern Border is a fucking mess ..

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GOYABEAN · May 14, 2023

Ukraine Puts $300 Million of US Aid in One Warehouse & Russia Blows It Up

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Mosinitis · May 14, 2023

Khmelnitzky, the city in Western Ukraine where military aid is stockpiled.

ManualF150 · May 14, 2023

This is exactly what China and Russia looking for. It's all going by their plans. The US and even the EU is getting weaker and weaker by the day by giving Ukraine and other folks weapons and funding. Top that off with the lowered standards in the US Military, the fall of the US Dollar, and the fact that key manufacturing of highly advanced microchips for weapons are made in China and other parts of that particular area.

I also heard that even though the US has been funding billions (if not trillions) of dollars into Egypt over the past several decades, that Egypt told the US to go screw off when the US asked if they could close their airspace to Russian aircraft.

The way I look at it, these countries that once used to be our allies are now turning toward greener pastures. Why? Because why would they want their country to turn into a third world status...

Robin · May 14, 2023

God bless those brave young men who, against all odds, fight for the sovereignty of their country, they are an inspiration, and God damn the corrupt scum in the Ukraine, Russia and America that profit from the sacrifice of their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.
Robin

Mosinitis · May 14, 2023

Robin said:
God bless those brave young men who, against all odds, fight for the sovereignty of their country, they are an inspiration, and God damn the corrupt scum in the Ukraine, Russia and America that profit from the sacrifice of their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.
Robin

Fuck the evildoers in Washington and their puppets around the world.

Robin · May 14, 2023

Well, your commie opinion means nothing to me, so, rave on.
Robin

Mosinitis · May 14, 2023

Robin said:
Well, your commie opinion means nothing to me, so, rave on.
Robin

I piss on your views and ideological schizophrenia you were indoctrinated with. Good news, yours are dying off.

Mosinitis · May 14, 2023

He knows it's U.S. fault but still manages to blame Russia. Asshole.

spat · May 14, 2023

Mosinitis said:
Fuck the evildoers in Washington and their puppets around the world.

Here here.

And the ones on Moscow.

And especially the ones pulling the strings in Bejing.

Mosinitis · May 15, 2023

spat said:
Here here.

And the ones on Moscow.

And especially the ones pulling the strings in Bejing.

Both Russia and China advocate multipolar world. U.S. proclaimed the supremacy of its system over others and its duty to enforce it in every corner of the earth.
People who disagree with this hyper-Imperialism are referred to as commies.

I am not even getting into reality v. propaganda side of it.

spat · May 15, 2023

Mosinitis said:
Both Russia and China advocate multipolar world. U.S. proclaimed the supremacy of its system over others and its duty to enforce it in every corner of the earth.
People who disagree with this hyper-Imperialism are referred to as commies.

I am not even getting into reality v. propaganda side of it.

Well, the American ideal of liberty *is* better.

We may not live up to it, but at least it's a goal.

Russia, I'm pretty sure, is just a pawn in the US/China fight for dominance at this stage. They don't like that, and want to pretend they're still a superpower, but they're not. Without their nukes they would be a minor regional power at best

As for China vs the US, I don't think China is remotely willing to entertain the idea of a "multi polar world".

Collectivists are utterly unwilling to allow individual liberty anywhere. They will preach free speech individual rights while they are the weaker power, but as soon as they achieve dominance that goes out the window.

Look at what's happened in academia in the US. The same exact people who were all about free speech in decades past are now the ones attempting to crucify anyone who strays from orthodoxy.

So, Russia and Ukraine are a side show. It's amusing at the moment, and maybe a good test bed for some weapon systems, but in the long run it's irrelevant.

At best, Russia's miserable showing may give China pause on their ambitions for Taiwain. That's about all that's worth in the long run. It's a pity so may decent people have to die for that.

So, with the choice between China, or the US running the world ? US 100% of the time. Even as fucked up as we are right now, it's *nothing* compared to what an unchecked China would do.

Robin · May 15, 2023

Mosinitis said:
I piss on your views and ideological schizophrenia you were indoctrinated with. Good news, yours are dying off.

Ooooo-golly gee, my views are dying off. So, like I haven't been on the receiving end of the herds views as the sheep blow with the wind. Doesn't phase me a whit, I've stood down the lynch mob before, right makes might.
Robin

Drinkthekoolaid · May 15, 2023

Mosinitis said:
Khmelnitzky, the city in Western Ukraine where military aid is stockpiled.

Apparently word is coming out that ammo dump is where Ukraine stored their depleted uranium AP tanks shells.

So essentially they just had a dirty bomb go off.

Mosinitis · May 15, 2023

Mosinitis · May 17, 2023

Zelensky stinks up half of Europe on his tour, gets laughed at by the French for which Ukrainian ambassador demands an apology.
Change your fucking shirt already, take a shower and shave.

Drinkthekoolaid · May 18, 2023

holdover said:
I was told the Russians ran out of missiles and tanks,and ammo

I'm pretty sure that's not accurate....

Lol

And remember guys keep this in mind it's very important.

Yes Russia is experiencing massive casualties. However, the Wagner group has done the majority of the recent fighting and dying. The Russian army has actually been growing because they are building up with conscripts at a rapid pace under mobilization. The Russian army is not suffering the insane casualties but the Wagner group is.

So cliff notes, Russia killed off a bunch of convicts as cannon foder to use in a war of attrition. Even if the Ukrainians were killing the Wagner at a rate of 5:1 Russia would make that trade all day every day. The Ukrainians can't be replaced, but the Russians are literally disposing of their undesirables as battlefield pawns.

Mosinitis · May 18, 2023

Mosinitis · May 18, 2023

Since the missile attack on Kremlin by whoever, Zelensky is out of the country on never ending tour. Zalupniy is hiding in a wedding.

Bigfoot · May 18, 2023

"Insane Close Combat Fighting for Bakhmut"

Crazy video. Ho Lee Fuk!

It's 25 minutes long... But here it is anyways.,

Mosinitis · May 19, 2023

Zelensky ran out of places to go in Europe and headed to Japan and Saudi Arabia, obviously he is staying out of Ukraine for whatever reason.

Zaluzniy was finally located and there is a video posted on telegram of what happened.

spat · May 19, 2023

holdover said:
March 29, 2023 (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned Tuesday that unless his nation wins a drawn-out battle in a key eastern city, Russia could begin building international support for a deal that could require Ukraine to make unacceptable compromises. He also invited the leader of China, long aligned with Russia, to visit.

If Bakhmut fell to Russian forces, their president, Vladimir Putin, would “sell this victory to the West, to his society, to China, to Iran,” Zelenskyy said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press.

“If he will feel some blood — smell that we are weak — he will push, push, push,” Zelenskyy said in English, which he used for virtually all of the interview.

Ukraine's Zelenskyy: Any Russian victory could be perilous

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is warning that his nation must win a drawn-out battle in a key eastern city.

apnews.com

This guy is out of his fucking mind if he thinks he can cut a deal with Russia . So you can rearm and try again later? Maybe you will keep your agreements this time? Now that your army is going to be crushed ? Now you want to cut a deal? and offer the Russians Donbass and Luhansk the Crimea? Areas won by conquest.? LOL. Im sure the Russians are going to jump at any offer.

I don't think he's suggesting he *wants* that.

He's warning that if they don't hold, then his backers may demand it.

Already there are many in NATO (and even on this board) who want the whole mess over with and don't really care who ends up with what territory.

If the west cuts off the checkbook funding him, Zelensky may not have many options.

Drinkthekoolaid · May 19, 2023

Bigfoot said:
"Insane Close Combat Fighting for Bakhmut"

Crazy video. Ho Lee Fuk!

It's 25 minutes long... But here it is anyways.,

What a shit show of a mess. That is WW1 being fought with ww3 technology. That must be hell.

I really hope people in America appreciate peace and know what real war is like. Sadly I think many are much too flippant about it.

Drinkthekoolaid · May 19, 2023

holdover said:
I agree, but there are two partys in this war, and I dont think the Russians are going to be in a good mood to negotiate, after it made offers before and just after the start of the war . If the US pulls out which it will do eventually , Ukraine will fall, thats not an opinion thats a hard cold fact since they cannot produce the war materials and weapons its need to continue .

We have to look at it from the US side also. Obviously we cannot support them forever. I got a feeling they told zelinsky , that if he cant hold bakhmut after everything we have done , then theres not much more we can do. At some point you have to stop throwing good money after bad.

There's nothing wrong with feeling bad for the Ukrainian people and not liking their government. Is it really any different than here?

I sympathize with the regular citizens caught in this mess they didn't ask for it, it's just the way it happened.

Regular citizens of countries have far more in common with each other than our power hungry corrupt governments want us to realize. I would likely trust an average regular Ukrainian or Russian citizen before I trust my own government.

spat · May 19, 2023

holdover said:
I agree, but there are two partys in this war, and I dont think the Russians are going to be in a good mood to negotiate, after it made offers before and just after the start of the war . If the US pulls out which it will do eventually , Ukraine will fall, thats not an opinion thats a hard cold fact since they cannot produce the war materials and weapons its need to continue .

We have to look at it from the US side also. Obviously we cannot support them forever. I got a feeling they told zelinsky , that if he cant hold bakhmut after everything we have done , then theres not much more we can do. At some point you have to stop throwing good money after bad.

The other side of that is that Russia really isn't going to see any benefit from letting this continue either.

I think some "deal" that will let Putin claim a victory would be the best he can hope for.

The west isn't going to cut Zelensky off cold turkey. Since there aren't Americans dying, we are quite willing to keep this money laundering operation going for decades.

What motive does anyone in DC have for stopping ? He'll Raytheon is probably bribing them left and right to keep it going.

Things are heating up in the Donbass

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