Things are heating up in the Donbass

[tirwin1]

Interesting article on Russia's casualties and where their cannon fodder comes from. Short answer - educated elites in Moscow and St Petersburg are much less likely to be in the army than those from poorer sections of Russia.

Russia's Middle-Aged Poor to the Grinder

...these are not the Stark's greybeards...

cdrsalamander.substack.com

 

[Mosinitis]

Interesting article on Russia's casualties and where their cannon fodder comes from. Short answer - educated elites in Moscow and St Petersburg are much less likely to be in the army than those from poorer sections of Russia.

Russia's Middle-Aged Poor to the Grinder

...these are not the Stark's greybeards...

cdrsalamander.substack.com

They don't have the data to draw this map.
Most of what was published in the West about Russia was highly inaccurate.

 

[tirwin1]

They don't have the data to draw this map.
Most of what was published in the West about Russia was highly inaccurate.

You don't disappoint.

So what are the russian casualty figures and are most of their troops from the poorer regions?

 

[Robin]

Putin Slips Up Death Toll of russian Forces in Ukraine of Over Half a Million K.I.A. | Defense Express

The figure of 500,000 personnel killed in the war against Ukraine is the minimum estimate, actually

en.defence-ua.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/27/us/politics/russia-ukraine-casualties.html

 

[Mosinitis]

You don't disappoint.

So what are the russian casualty figures and are most of their troops from the poorer regions?

The number is not in the public domain. It's all speculation. Two significantly different figures just above.

 

[tirwin1]

The number is not in the public domain. It's all speculation. Two significantly different figures just above.

Take a guess, or link to a news source you think is credible.

 

[Mosinitis]

Take a guess, or link to a news source you think is credible.

Credible news source will not give a number, that's the whole point.

 

[spat]

They don't have the data to draw this map.
Most of what was published in the West about Russia was highly inaccurate.

That's pretty much how all nations in the history of ever operate, so I'm not sure where your skepticism is coming from.

 

[spat]

Credible news source will not give a number, that's the whole point.

Name one major conflict ever in all of world history where the majority of the deaths weren't from the lower classes.

Or are you claiming Russia is so much better than every other state ever than they have managed to make war "fair" ?

 

[Mosinitis]

Name one major conflict ever in all of world history where the majority of the deaths weren't from the lower classes.

Or are you claiming Russia is so much better than every other state ever than they have managed to make war "fair" ?

Crusades of German knights, just to prove you wrong.

There is a difference between saying something is likely to be true and actually quantifying it without having data.

 

[spat]

Crusades of German knights, just to prove you wrong.

There is a difference between saying something is likely to be true and actually quantifying it without having data.

That's only true if you accept the crusaders premise than the rest of their entourage doesn't count LOL.

Medieval warfare casualty counts look top heavy because the peasants who died weren't even considered important enough to count LOL.

 

[tirwin1]

Credible news source will not give a number, that's the whole point.

So if you have no idea of the casualties how can you say the Russians are winning or will win?

 

[Mosinitis]

So if you have no idea of the casualties how can you say the Russians are winning or will win?

Does Vietnam ring a bell? Casualty figures don't always tell who is losing.