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Health ranger quote..Spot on!

What the House vote on $95 billion for #Ukraine and #Israel proves is that voting for Republicans is a pointless waste of time, since Republicans in power produce the EXACT SAME RESULTS as Democrats in power: Waste, corruption, tyranny and fraud. The United States Congress is utterly disconnected from the people they claim to represent, and I will absolutely CHEER the day the Treasury defaults on dollar debt so that this endless cycle of currency counterfeiting, war and corruption is brought to a halt. You are witnessing the final insane self-immolation of a once-great nation that has now collapsed into a clown show horror flick ruled by traitors and tyrants who deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their lives for the crimes they have carried out against the nation they swore to serve.

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Its going to take more than an act of congress to save Ukraine now, it will take an act of God. The weapons that money buys will take months to reach the Ukraine. Its to late. They wont win the war with air defense weapons . The desperation is like a guy that lost 100K at the crap tables, and now wants borrow ten bucks to try to win it all back . Its sad to watch.
 
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holdover said:
Its going to take more than an act of congress to save Ukraine now, it will take an act of God. The weapons that money buys will take months to reach the Ukraine. Its to late. They wont win the war with air defense weapons . The desperation is like a guy that lost 100K at the crap tables, and now wants borrow ten bucks to try to win it all back . Its sad to watch.
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There is lots of money left to launder through Ukraine. They won't be allowed to lose anytime soon.

It's possible that Russia might be allowed to win eventually, that's the best way to cover up the laundering.
 
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$500 Russian drones destroying $10,000,000 American tanks – NYT | ORDO News

Moscow’s forces have destroyed five US-made tanks in Ukraine and damaged another three, the paper has reported Expensive American M1 Abrams tanks delivered to Ukraine are increasingly falling prey to Russian drones that cost only a fraction as much, the New York Times reported on Saturday. Even...
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The United States of Ukraine.You are witnessing the continuation of the greatest theft in human history. We are not “free”. We are slaves. Our labor is the energy source that fuels death and destruction around the globe. And the politicians profit from our suffering…
If you are not awake yet, you have not been paying attention.
 
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Defilade said:
The United States of Ukraine.You are witnessing the continuation of the greatest theft in human history. We are not “free”. We are slaves. Our labor is the energy source that fuels death and destruction around the globe. And the politicians profit from our suffering…
If you are not awake yet, you have not been paying attention.
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We live on a tax farm. They are farming us for taxes. We are free range people.
 
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There is lots of money left to launder through Ukraine. They won't be allowed to lose anytime soon.
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I dont know the Russians might have something to say about that. The Ukraine army is in bad shape right now. They could be stock piling weapons and troops for a last push this summer or spring Like the Germans did , but I have doubts. Col Doug Mcgreggor likened the Ukraine army to the confederates at the end of the civil war , that they had no means of production and the Union army would not let them breathe , constantly pushing them forcing them to use resources. right now the Eastern Ukraine is without power. which makes simple things very hard , Like repairs , refrigeration, basic stuff, let alone production.

Tactically, the Russians are getting their shit together, I dont know if its the leaders, or they stole a page from our book, but thier use of combined arms operations has improved drastically. the Ukrainians cant stop them .Then you have the new tactics of drone swarms which is difficult to counter and which they have a production advantage .

One thing I dont hear a lot about is the quality of the Ukraine NCO's and officers. It takes time to produce good leaders , you dont conscript staff officers or Sargent majors , it takes time , and they have lost a lot of good NCO's and officers you cant just replace . A lot of the Ukraine units are down to 50-60% of troops, which is combat ineffective by our standards .

Rumors are that the Russians are massing men in Belarus , probably for a push towards Karkive would be my guess. I hear that this is the last real defensive line they have , thats its wide open farm lands to the Dnipro river , considering the shape of the Uki Army, lack of supplies and defensive positions, I wouldnt be shocked if we saw a retreat to better positions in the coming weeks .

I dont see any outs for Ukraine. theres no path to victory unless NATO jumps in and thats not likely . I think the war will be pretty much over by December
 
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holdover said:
I dont see any outs for Ukraine. theres no path to victory unless NATO jumps in and thats not likely . I think the war will be pretty much over by December
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I expect the war might be over in December, if things go the right way here in the US November elections.
 
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They have probably already calculated just how much of the money will ultimately wind up in their own bank accounts.
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300M to secure Ukraine's border, but $00.00 from the feds to secure our own borders. Fucking traitors selling out our country. DC cock suckers. Cartels must be paying off 10%Joe Biden and likely others. There's no way in hell Ukraine can win. We should let Europe clean up their own fucking neighborhood.
 
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There are several YouTube channels that show numerous videos how Ukrainian men are being kidnapped off the streets by Ukrainian conscription personnel. This one is from Uzhgorod, which is in Western Ukraine. The wife of this man called the police, but they refused to intervene and only made out a report.

 
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Defilade said:
So explain to me why any American should support Ukraine by send billions of our taxpayer dollars over there when we have to borrow it on interest being in debt 34 trillion? Do you like inflation?? Or are you a fucking retard? That goes for Israel too.
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Because thousands of corrupt democrats, rino's, Ukrainians, and Russians are pocketing billions, while millions have no say in any of it because we are no longer a Republic. Thats why, basically.
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