Time to Upgrade DoD’s Armory..

[DoD1776]

Want reliable? Money is no issue?
Time for a short stroke piston system:

Pinned and Welded - SIG 516 Gen 2 Upper Receiver Assembly Complete, 16 in

Get a reduction in rifle length while staying within ATF rifle guidelines with this 516 Gen2 rifle upper. *While supplies last* NOTE: Signature is required upon delivery.

www.sigsauer.com

What makes this system better than the normal?

 

[Steal2B]

I’ve decided I’m getting a semi auto rifle that’s not from WW2 but rather modern day.

Nothing wrong with the classics, I have it on good authority that real men saved the world with their M1-Garand running 30-06. Sometimes it feels like a proven trench gun may again be a sound solution.

 

[Podmonkey]

What makes this system better than the normal?

Don't get a piston AR. The standard gas system is best.
External pistons on ARs are a solution to a problem that is perceived but not actual.
A properly spec'd and assembled AR15 is the most reliable semi auto there is. This being based on the amount of stopages I have experienced with my ARs over hundreds of thousands of rounds. I have had more malfs with AK types. Not a lot more, but more nonetheless.

 

[DoD1776]

Nothing wrong with the classics, I have it on good authority that real men saved the world with their M1-Garand running 30-06. Sometimes it feels like a proven trench gun may again be a sound solution.

Sending mine back to the CMP so they can fix some problems with it

 

[DoD1776]

Don't get a piston AR. The standard gas system is best.
External pistons on ARs are a solution to a problem that is perceived but not actual.
A properly spec'd and assembled AR15 is the most reliable semi auto there is. This being based on the amount of stopages I have experienced with my ARs over hundreds of thousands of rounds. I have had more malfs with AK types. Not a lot more, but more nonetheless.

I plan on spending decent dough on making an AR, $2,000 max (without optic). I definitely want something that’s reliable and won’t have problems. My grandpas has some problems after a few mags and it’s really weird, also something with his buffer spring too.

 

[drowhawk]

What makes this system better than the normal?

Piston systems keep the exhaust gasses away from the bcg and firing group which in theory increases their reliability as round count goes up between cleanings. They are just much cleaner in general.

There is NOTHING wrong with a DI gun and they are not an "unreliable design." Piston guns just take the proven reliability of an AR a step further. They also function better in dirt, sand, mud, etc. If I had to pick only one gun, it would be a piston gun.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Piston guns just take the proven reliability of an AR a step further. They also function better in dirt, sand, mud, etc.

Not in the case of the mini14/30. A DI AR15 is way more reliable than the piston driven mini in those conditions.

 

[Podmonkey]

Piston systems keep the exhaust gasses away from the bcg and firing group which in theory increases their reliability as round count goes up between cleanings. They are just much cleaner in general.

There is NOTHING wrong with a DI gun and they are not an "unreliable design." Piston guns just take the proven reliability of an AR a step further. They also function better in dirt, sand, mud, etc. If I had to pick only one gun, it would be a piston gun.

Piston ARs add weight, complexit, cost and decrease durability and potential accuracy. They offer no benefit whatsoever. The exist solely due to the notion that the internal gas piston is unreliable which is untrue. Running cleaner doesn't really give you anything. The HK91 runs incredibly dirty, more so than ARs and that design is incredibly reliable.
@DoD1776, check this thread out for many good AR recommendations:

Opinions wanted re: Colt M4

I am considering the purchase of an AR- style rifle next year, when I change my residency to the great state of Kentucky. The new manufacture Colt M4 flat top has caught my eye, includes 1-30 rounder, and I was wondering if Colt still made a quality rifle. I had a Colt AR-15 Sporter in the...

nygunforum.com

 

[FrankenCub]

I plan on spending decent dough on making an AR, $2,000 max (without optic). I definitely want something that’s reliable and won’t have problems. My grandpas has some problems after a few mags and it’s really weird, also something with his buffer spring too.

It's nice to spend good coin on one, but I think I've got under $900 in mine. Not including optics.

 

[Will556]

I plan on spending decent dough on making an AR, $2,000 max (without optic). I definitely want something that’s reliable and won’t have problems. My grandpas has some problems after a few mags and it’s really weird, also something with his buffer spring too.

You can definitely build a quality AR for $2,000. And if you know how to properly build one and use all the right stuff, it’ll be solid and good to go. If your grandfather’s isn’t working, there’s obviously something wrong with it or it’s setup improperly.

 

[Will556]

If you’re going to have one built, build it yourself, or buy one I would also suggest getting a DI (Direct Impingement) and not a Piston. You’re going to add more moving parts to to system that doesn’t need it. Piston AR’s are cool and some are nice but they can be finicky as well. You start to run into issues like carrier tilt that causes abnormal wear to the bcg, buffer tube. I build DI AR’s for customers all the time and they come out great. You get what you pay for. Stick to well known companies that are well regarded for having proper QC in there manufacturing process.l and make reliable parts. There are absolutely companies that I refuse to use for my personal builds because I’ve seen too many weird issues with them or just poor manufacturing in general.

 

[GTN]

If you’re going to have one built, build it yourself, or buy one I would also suggest getting a DI (Direct Impingement) and not a Piston. You’re going to add more moving parts to to system that doesn’t need it. Piston AR’s are cool and some are nice but they can be finicky as well. You start to run into issues like carrier tilt that causes abnormal wear to the bcg, buffer tube. I build DI AR’s for customers all the time and they come out great. You get what you pay for. Stick to well known companies that are well regarded for having proper QC in there manufacturing process.l and make reliable parts. There are absolutely companies that I refuse to use for my personal builds because I’ve seen too many weird issues with them or just poor manufacturing in general.

What’s your avg build price?

 

[Will556]

What’s your avg build price?

There is no average price per se. It really does vary based on what parts get used for a build. The prices of parts can fluctuate, I’ve had to pay more for the same part that I had just bought two weeks earlier because the prices were raised. If you’re interested send me a message and we can see what we could do, I’d be more than welcome to see if we can get a nice build together for you.

 

[DoD1776]

If you’re going to have one built, build it yourself, or buy one I would also suggest getting a DI (Direct Impingement) and not a Piston. You’re going to add more moving parts to to system that doesn’t need it. Piston AR’s are cool and some are nice but they can be finicky as well. You start to run into issues like carrier tilt that causes abnormal wear to the bcg, buffer tube. I build DI AR’s for customers all the time and they come out great. You get what you pay for. Stick to well known companies that are well regarded for having proper QC in there manufacturing process.l and make reliable parts. There are absolutely companies that I refuse to use for my personal builds because I’ve seen too many weird issues with them or just poor manufacturing in general.

Is that one you built In your profile pic?

 

[meketrefe]

Well, I’ve decided I’m getting a semi auto rifle that’s not from WW2 but rather modern day. I have plenty of $$$ and it’s something that I find necessary to get.

I’m heavily contemplating an AR15 but reliability it’s something of a concern. I’d really like one, I’d like to build one that’s bougie but reliability is a turn off so my debate is weather or not to go with it or find a different platform. They really can’t handle getting dirty too well in my eyes.

and no, I will not do a mini14 and AK (even though I find it to be a lot more reliable) is also a no.

recommendations below.

Not sure why anyone should have any reliability concerns with an AR that is of good quality.
If one is going to be so concern then look for a piston option like an H&K MR556A1 (pricey) or a LWRC (six8 is king)
or just grab a quality melonited upper with a decent piston retrofit.

But in terms of the best accuracy will come from a DI quality upper.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Not sure why anyone should have any reliability concerns with an AR that is of good quality.
If one is going to be so concern then look for a piston option like an H&K MR556A1 (pricey) or a LWRC (six8 is king)
or just grab a quality melonited upper with a decent piston retrofit.

But in terms of the best accuracy will come from a DI quality upper.

I own an LWRC and can say I love it. The piston system does at weight, the accuracy is just as good as DI. Does it cost most? Yes. Do I have less to clean? Yes. Can't go wrong with a LWRC or another quality DI setup.

 

[meketrefe]

I forgot also take a look at the LMT (Contractor for several countrys service rifles like the UK)

MARS™ | Modular Ambidextrous Rifle System | LMT Defense

The MARS™ Modular Ambidextrous Rifle System is a true fully ambidextrous system and feature a robust Monolithic Rail Platform.

lmtdefense.com

 

[SomeSoldier]

I forgot also take a look at the LMT (Contractor for several countrys service rifles like the UK)

MARS™ | Modular Ambidextrous Rifle System | LMT Defense

The MARS™ Modular Ambidextrous Rifle System is a true fully ambidextrous system and feature a robust Monolithic Rail Platform.

lmtdefense.com

For the same price or less you can have a LWRC. They are nice though.

 

[Will556]

Is that one you built In your profile pic?

Yup! That’s one of them. I love that thing, it’s a badass build. Tons of really nice parts on that thing.

 

[DoD1776]

Yup! That’s one of them. I love that thing, it’s a badass build. Tons of really nice parts on that thing.

It looks really nice. Any chance you can send me some pics?

 

[Will556]

It looks really nice. Any chance you can send me some pics?

Not today Fed Boiiii
…Just messing. What are you trying to see?

 

[DoD1776]

Not today Fed Boiiii View attachment 131299
…Just messing. What are you trying to see?

The rifle it’s self, I can barely see it in the photo and I can’t click on ur profile because it’s private. U can DM me it if you want

 

[Will556]

The rifle it’s self, I can barely see it in the photo and I can’t click on ur profile because it’s private. U can DM me it if you want

Nah, I don’t care about posting that on here. This is the picture from my profile. You should be able to click on it and zoom now.

 

[Will556]

Nah, I don’t care about posting that on here. This is the picture from my profile. You should be able to click on it and zoom now. View attachment 131309

The original optic plan for this was to run a Vortex Razor HD Gen III 1-10x in this Badger Ordnance Condition 1 Modular Mount (C.O.M.M.) but I’m still waiting to get my hands on the Vortex for now. So in the meantime I pulled the Unity FAST mount and Eotech EXPS 3-0 out of the box of parts for my 9” 300blk build…which will be my next build coming relatively soon. As long as I can find time to get it all done between customer’s work.