Troops Sent to Help Evacuate US Embassy in Afghanistan; Joe Biden's Words Come Back to Haunt Him
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livingston
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The men pictured above are purportedly accused of theft, and have been tarred in black and dragged through the streets by armed Taliban sympathisers
Going to be a shit show ...Just like nam ...
livingston
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Rampant Taliban ransack home of top Afghan warlord General Dostum
Insurgents tightened their grip on Afghanistan on Saturday by capturing Mazar-e-Sharif - a large, heavily defended city in the north of the country - in a major setback for the government.
Blimey
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I do not blame Biden for what is happening here. He's working in part on a timeline Trump provided. I also don't blame Trump.
I blame first and foremost George Bush for this epic clusterfuck to begin with. He knew the soviets had run tails between their legs because Afghanistan is irredeemable. He tried to turn a nation of cave-dwelling luddites who are a modern example of medieval social norms, justice (e.g. maiming thieves, etc.) into a modern, civilized nation. They just don't want it.
Yes, Afghanistan's final, overnight explosion is happening under Biden's watch, but the lesson I take here is that after 20 years Afghanistan was being held together with duct tape. Evidently a lot of cities fell without a shot fired.
We've spent $1-2T here and thousands of lives lost. And for what? So that the goat fucking, women raping savages in the taliban could, the moment anybody civilized leaves, run amok over the entire country?
BTW if you want to read about accounts on the ground this is a great spot: Afghanistan • r/afghanistan
A number of people there have posted about being trapped. They have flights leaving in a week or something and wondering if Kabul will still be allowing flights. Everybody is urging them to GTFO by any means necessary.
I blame first and foremost George Bush for this epic clusterfuck to begin with. He knew the soviets had run tails between their legs because Afghanistan is irredeemable. He tried to turn a nation of cave-dwelling luddites who are a modern example of medieval social norms, justice (e.g. maiming thieves, etc.) into a modern, civilized nation. They just don't want it.
Yes, Afghanistan's final, overnight explosion is happening under Biden's watch, but the lesson I take here is that after 20 years Afghanistan was being held together with duct tape. Evidently a lot of cities fell without a shot fired.
We've spent $1-2T here and thousands of lives lost. And for what? So that the goat fucking, women raping savages in the taliban could, the moment anybody civilized leaves, run amok over the entire country?
BTW if you want to read about accounts on the ground this is a great spot: Afghanistan • r/afghanistan
A number of people there have posted about being trapped. They have flights leaving in a week or something and wondering if Kabul will still be allowing flights. Everybody is urging them to GTFO by any means necessary.
Blimey
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Can I get some of the money back on spent on these?
As I understand it (and I understand little about afghanistan) the afghan national army (ANA) has done little if any resistance against the taliban and has basically folded up. So the second their US minders left they lost any will to fight and just ran off to let these places fall to the taliban. This is why they did not blow these vehicles up before retreating.
These were left to ANA and it was trained to use them. Now I presume that those same soldiers will be conscripted into the taliban.
livingston
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Will be a shit show of major proportion ...
from the treehouse ...
Sarah
Kabul's single point of failure:
Kabul's airport only has a single runway.
High altitude + heavy planes (lots of fuel + lots of cargo/people) = need for the entire runway. Any runway damage can shut it down.
Civilian airport: exposed planes, fuel, equipment, etc.
— John Robb (@johnrobb) August 14, 2021
Konrad
The Taliban are not idiots. They will let the Biden Junta send in thousands, but they won’t let them leave. (They might blow up a few landing aircraft for appearances sake, but they’ll let most land).
The Biden Junta is in panic mode and utterly reactive. The Taliban and their new Chinese advisors are excecuting a plan.
There are very few airfields or landing sites in Afghanistan that can accommodate transport aircraft, and the Taliban are in the position to make every single one unusable.
Those troops are going to have to fight their way out over land while the Chinese disrupt any attempt at radio guided cargo drops.
Biden Sends 1,000 Emergency Evacuation Troops to Kabul as Intel Agencies Now Say Afghan Capital Will Fall Within 72 Hours - The Last Refuge
In July, Biden said Kabul would never fall. Four days ago Biden said it would take more than 90 days for Taliban to reach Kabul, if at all. Today, Biden sends 1,000 more additional troops to Kabul as it is expected to fall within 72 hrs. That is correct. By Monday the Taliban could control […]
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Blimey
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I'm not sure that will happen--letting the troops in but not out. The US has thousands of quality fighters in kabul now along with many more stationed externally ready to assist. If the Taliban tries to trap them and kill them it is going to get carpet bombed into oblivion. There won't be a structure left standing within sight of the airport. It would be a never ending bombing campaign like the world has never seen. US troops also will not surrender because they would be surrendering to getting stoned to death in a stadium.Will be a shit show of major proportion ...
from the treehouse ...
Sarah
Kabul's single point of failure:
Kabul's airport only has a single runway.
High altitude + heavy planes (lots of fuel + lots of cargo/people) = need for the entire runway. Any runway damage can shut it down.
Civilian airport: exposed planes, fuel, equipment, etc.
— John Robb (@johnrobb) August 14, 2021
Konrad
The Taliban are not idiots. They will let the Biden Junta send in thousands, but they won’t let them leave. (They might blow up a few landing aircraft for appearances sake, but they’ll let most land).
The Biden Junta is in panic mode and utterly reactive. The Taliban and their new Chinese advisors are excecuting a plan.
There are very few airfields or landing sites in Afghanistan that can accommodate transport aircraft, and the Taliban are in the position to make every single one unusable.
Those troops are going to have to fight their way out over land while the Chinese disrupt any attempt at radio guided cargo drops.
Biden Sends 1,000 Emergency Evacuation Troops to Kabul as Intel Agencies Now Say Afghan Capital Will Fall Within 72 Hours - The Last Refuge
In July, Biden said Kabul would never fall. Four days ago Biden said it would take more than 90 days for Taliban to reach Kabul, if at all. Today, Biden sends 1,000 more additional troops to Kabul as it is expected to fall within 72 hrs. That is correct. By Monday the Taliban could control […]
What many in the /r/afghanistan forum seem to think is that the taliban don't want the americans there for longer than they have to be, which means they may leave them along until they all get out, as the US mission there is now very limited: evacuate embassy and maybe some extra citiens if possible.
Phazer
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Taliban propaganda showcases US weapons and radios as captured war spoils
The pictures may depict a trend of U.S. military weapons supplied to the Afghan military falling into Taliban hands.
www.navytimes.com
livingston
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The hostage situation in Iran propped up that regime for decades. .. Our country bitched slapped america .... The same thing will happen here...
The biden administration has a different course for our military
The U.S. government gives billions of taxpayer dollars and weapons to terrorists, then the same federal government turns around and labels Americans as terrorists because we don’t like the U.S. government response.
Our entire system of government is one long collapsing mess
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So, I am going to blame Biden.
Under his leadership and his Generals, this is happening.
Biden is the one that allowed this to occur.
Biden does not have the strength to have done this correctly.
If this drawdown and removal was happening under President Trump, it would have been done much better and that shithole would not be in the situation they are in right now.
livingston
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“How will the Taliban do in the age of MeToo” (para-phrasing)
" We give women rights "... They have the right not to go to school except to study religion .... Most women had no access to doctors pre US ... A male Dr cannot treat a women per Taliban law .. Hope they trained a lot of females for the medical field.
livingston
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Bidens day is over at 11:00 am .... At times Trump was working 20 hour days.
That_FNG
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Why don’t we send some social workers to just defuse the situation? I keep hearing how well that strategy can work.
Robin
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I wouldn't put it past Biden and his cronies to leave some of our troops hanging out to dry. Who the fuck trusts these sleazy incompetents that are running this shit show, well except Blimey, who else? Sickening!
Robin
Robin
Robin
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I cannot believe the crap from Sec. State, Chair of the joint chief's, Sec Def, and Pelosi, while Joe the joke is ensconced in Camp David, probably eating an ice cream cone. A ship manned by fools and incompetent's will run us all aground. Not to worry though, big media will spin it for them, things may well go to shit but big media will have Joe and his cult of bumbling bureaucrats looking like jesus and the apostles for the braying asses and babbling sheep.
Disgusting!
Robin
Disgusting!
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livingston
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The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and his action. The Taliban must know the world is watching its actions. We are concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls.
livingston
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Fill this form out on the internet to be evacuated from Kabul....
Event: The security situation in Kabul is changing quickly including at the airport. There are reports of the airport taking fire; therefore we are instructing U.S. citizens to shelter in place.
U.S. citizens wanting assistance in departing the country should register for any option that might be identified to return to the United States, and must complete this Repatriation Assistance Request for each traveler in their group. Spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens in Afghanistan who are awaiting immigrant visas should also complete this form if they wish to depart. Please do so as soon as possible. You must complete this form even if you’ve previously submitted your information to the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. Do not call the U.S. Embassy in Kabul for details or updates about the flight. This form is the only way to communicate interest in flight options.
Event: The security situation in Kabul is changing quickly including at the airport. There are reports of the airport taking fire; therefore we are instructing U.S. citizens to shelter in place.
U.S. citizens wanting assistance in departing the country should register for any option that might be identified to return to the United States, and must complete this Repatriation Assistance Request for each traveler in their group. Spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens in Afghanistan who are awaiting immigrant visas should also complete this form if they wish to depart. Please do so as soon as possible. You must complete this form even if you’ve previously submitted your information to the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. Do not call the U.S. Embassy in Kabul for details or updates about the flight. This form is the only way to communicate interest in flight options.
livingston
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Kabul Has Fallen, Afghan President Ghani Flees, U.S. Embassy Being Evacuated, Airport Under Siege, Biden on Vacation - The Last Refuge
Throughout the night and today U.S. personnel were evacuated from the embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan. The U.S. flag has been removed. The airport in Kabul is no longer safe and flights have been suspended. Afghanistan President Ghani has fled the country. The Taliban are on the streets of...
theconservativetreehouse.com
Throughout the night and today U.S. personnel were evacuated from the embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan. The U.S. flag has been removed. The airport in Kabul is no longer safe and flights have been suspended. Afghanistan President Ghani has fled the country. The Taliban are on the streets of Kabul as fighting around the airport continues.
U.S. Secretary of State Tony Blinken is a stuttering and stammering mess as he appears on television attempting to obfuscate the complete FUBAR that is unfolding. Joe Biden is being kept hidden in his bunker. U.S. personnel who did not make it to the airport have been told to shelter in place and await rescue. Some reports of negotiations with Taliban leadership for safe passage for Americans. The embassy is being abandoned.
Saltwater60
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My brother-in-law trained these assholes and he said it was the most dangerous task he was tasked with. He also said they were about the biggest joke you’ve ever seen in your life. I’m not surprised by this.
libertysnake
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FrankenCub
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AFAIC we should send in squadrons A-10s and bombers, completely destroy everything that was once ours. Doesn't matter if ANA are present or not. Then fly away with a smile.
kev74
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Wrong thread
Let's keep covid out of this thread and keep it on the Afghanistan mess
Yeah, or just pardon the mistake. My bad.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
What an utter waste of time and lives. Disgusting. Should just carpet bomb the entire region into oblivion and be done with it.