Therese school shootings did not occur when!?
Did I get redirected to the Brady bunch site!?
Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
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Did I get redirected to the Brady bunch site!?
Except the entire 2nd amendment rights for people under 21 and without due process.
That doesn't concern you because you don't want to be "associated with those people!?"
SmallGameAddict
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Cuomo has been strangely silent. He is meeting with other New England blue state governors, in CT, RI and MA. Think about this, you cannot get into or out of New England by land and stay within the US without going through NY. Notice for obvious reasons he doesn't waste time with VT, NH or ME.
At what age can you apply for a NYS Pistol Permit ?
Why arent you harping about that.
At no point did I EVER day nor did Trump advocate denial of due process so that point is moot .
...and no, I dont want myself associated with violent mental defects, habitual criminal offenders, bullies, rapists, or domestic violence offenders.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Speaking of reading comprehension, did he vote on anti gun bills?
I hated on that 21 pistol permit age for YEARS, I have literally millions of views on YouTube about just that idiocy!
Of course he did without due process, that's exactly what arrest first and ask questions later is.
The "holier than thou" view about not associating with people X, Y, or Z is great until...whoops, I'm afraid you wore an American flag shirt to work. You bullied the Muslims at the workplace. Guns please. We'll work it out later.
The same amount Obama did during his presidency.
And, you know this is deflection because we hate on anti gun people not even in government positions all the time.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Barack voted on many anti gun bills during his tenure as senator.
And yet, none as president...
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So you voted for him the 2nd time around then?
Catskillkid
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We need to make the cake analogy a sticky. Mods, can we do that? Seriously.
Considering I'm not a 1 issue voter, and that's a ridiculous question, no.
Phazer
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Let me get this straight, Mr. President:
An American citizen has age of majority at 18 years of age.
At 18, they:
What if an 18-year-old moves away from home and can only afford to purchase independent housing in a "less than desirable" area? If they want to purchase a firearm for personal protection, they will be prohibited from doing so until they are 21 years old. That...makes...no...sense.
Any legislation raising the age to purchase a firearm to 21 years should be accompanied by a congressionally-passed constitutional amendment proposal sent to the states for the immediate repeal of the 26th amendment and an increase of the United States' voting age to 21 years. The legislation to raise the age to purchase a firearm should only be enacted after the 26th amendment is repealed and revised.
An American citizen has age of majority at 18 years of age.
At 18, they:
- Are legally responsible for their own social affairs
- Are legally responsible for their own finances
- Can obtain credit to purchase homes and cars
- Can sign a lease to rent a domicile of their choosing
- Can be drafted to fight in the U.S. military
- Can vote for their governmental representatives
- Are legally obligated to pay taxes
What if an 18-year-old moves away from home and can only afford to purchase independent housing in a "less than desirable" area? If they want to purchase a firearm for personal protection, they will be prohibited from doing so until they are 21 years old. That...makes...no...sense.
Any legislation raising the age to purchase a firearm to 21 years should be accompanied by a congressionally-passed constitutional amendment proposal sent to the states for the immediate repeal of the 26th amendment and an increase of the United States' voting age to 21 years. The legislation to raise the age to purchase a firearm should only be enacted after the 26th amendment is repealed and revised.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Now you understand. We aren't one issue voters either.
But hey, at least those over 21 got theirs. To hell with your fellow American citizens!
Depends on who you are talking about.
All the people on here that said "I'm a single issue voter?"
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Its obvious you never arrested anyone .If you did, youd realize how incorrect your statement really is .
No LE EVER arrests without probable cause a crime occured.
....and while Im at it, after listening to his meeting 3 times, at NO point did he EVER advocate for the denial of due process. In fact he ADVOCATED for due process rights as a crucial component of any piece of legislation.
Lastly....he didnt advocate for banning the purchase of ALL firearms from those between 18 and 21 years of age. He advocated for restricting purchase rights to Modern Sporting Rifles aka Assault Rifles ( theres that bullshit term again) for those under 21 .
Stop acting as if the sky is falling. At the end of the day Federally youll be lucky to get Fix NICS passed .Congress will fight over the rest and 60 votes in the Senate will be a miracle achievement.
Hes playing them the same way he played them on DACA.
Phazer
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Age restrictions on guns unconstitutional
Lastly, those who support raising the minimum age for gun purchases to 21 have clearly not considered the anomaly this would create: hundreds of thousands of young Americans would suddenly be serving in our armed forces, bearing not only guns, but howitzers, torpedoes, attack helicopters, and even nuclear weapons, but, as private citizens, they would be unable to purchase firearms.
One word for such a predicament would be “unjust” — personally, I prefer the more apt term: surreal.
One word for such a predicament would be “unjust” — personally, I prefer the more apt term: surreal.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And even then if one only votes on the 2A as a single issue, who would be the better choice? One who talked about being anti 2A and voted anti 2A issues as a senator or one who's never voted anti 2A, said anti 2A things but reversed what he has said in the past?
It becomes a choice of "Will" vs "Might." "Might" wins every time over "Will."
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Constitutional protections dont apply to you in the US Military. Different code of Justice and different Court system.
At least that what current and former military personnel I know and work with have always told me.
Nah, don't like them odds.
There is no reversing btw. So it's will, and people will roast them properly for it, or will, and people will make excuses for them and tap dance with nonsense like "will vs might, might wins every time."
You lost me.
Doc8404
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Definitely take gonorrhea.
I respect your opinions as well as understand them.
Not much more I can say on the subject I havent already said .
You know I was quoting Will both times right?
The wide brush that covers 100% of the pro gun sky falling because Trump is entertaining ideas that have the pro gun community up in arms .
It isnt wide enough.....
Poor attempt at humor .
I apologize .