Trump threatens to take federal control of D.C.

[Saltwater60]

I do not think it is wise to use the national guard to police a city. The democrats will do this but we will be their targets. Next you know they will be kicking down doors in NYS to confiscate guns from us that they recently banned. I’m all good using federal law enforcement to make a city safe and the national guard in support roles but not on the streets making arrests.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I would have gone into these shithole city`s and arrested the phucking politicians who have let this shit fester for decades. And go after previous administrations for phuckin everything up, too. You can`t stop the crime until you stop those who have just ignored it, on purpose. These phuckin worthless bastards (BOTH PARTIES) gladly suck a public paycheck out of it and do nothing to ever fix anything except their phucking bank accounts. These phucks get rich off the crime they allow, ON PURPOSE. "VOTE FOR ME, I`LL FIX IT" Yet these worthless bottom feeding cocksuks never fix the problem, because THEY, ARE, the phucking problem! BOTH of the DemORat`s & Republicon`s are the problem! In the mean time, it`s tearing this country apart more and more every day. We`ve allowed ourselves to rot from within. We deserve our fate for our own stupidity and ignorance.

Go ahead, tell me i`m wrong without telling me i`m wrong.

 

[spat]

The problem was never a lack of police.

It doesn't matter how many officers you put on duty, or how aggressively they make arrests if the courts are just going to play "catch and release".

And if you actually kept the bad guys locked up, even a much smaller number of cops could catch up pretty quickly.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

The problem was never a lack of police.

It doesn't matter how many officers you put on duty, or how aggressively they make arrests if the courts are just going to play "catch and release".

And if you actually kept the bad guys locked up, even a much smaller number of cops could catch up pretty quickly.

THIS ^^^^^^
Absolutely!

 

[Defilade]

 

[Defilade]

BREAKING: AG Pam Bondi has just DEPUTIZED Secret Service and DC Metro Transit officers, giving them warrantless arrest powers in DC

They can now arrest criminals in the streets for violating federal OR local laws.

 

[GOPerfect]

Just remember.... We, as a nation, do not have a violent crime problem...

We have a Peoples problem. Take care of the people that commit a disproportion amount of crime and the problem fixes itself.

 

[spat]

Just remember.... We, as a nation, do not have a violent crime problem...

We have a Peoples problem. Take care of the people that commit a disproportion amount of crime and the problem fixes itself.

And the violent crime problem doesn't exist nationwide. It exists in only a few select neighborhoods that have been under the leadership for decades by the leftist of left wing lunatics.

Something like 90% of the violent crime happens in 1% of the zip codes.

 

[1075tech]

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[Defilade]

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm????

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[FP1201]

The problem was never a lack of police.

It doesn't matter how many officers you put on duty, or how aggressively they make arrests if the courts are just going to play "catch and release".

And if you actually kept the bad guys locked up, even a much smaller number of cops could catch up pretty quickly.

Well here's the thing with Judges playing "catch & release": Judges follow (or interpret Constitutionally) the Laws as written by Congress or respective Legislatures, so if the Legislature says "Bail is unfair to the economically challenged, so there'll be no Bail set for the charge of Xxxxx, so the Judge has no choice but to set them free on an appearance, or get creative (well maybe that's the DA's job with a shit-load of charges stemming from the original complaint).
The Eighth Amendment is something I've never really understood because the Language seems subjective.
EIGHTH AMENDMENT
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive Bail

: Analysis and Interpretation of the of the U.S. Constitution

law.justia.com

 

[spat]

Well here's the thing with Judges playing "catch & release": Judges follow (or interpret Constitutionally) the Laws as written by Congress or respective Legislatures, so if the Legislature says "Bail is unfair to the economically challenged, so there'll be no Bail set for the charge of Xxxxx, so the Judge has no choice but to set them free on an appearance, or get creative (well maybe that's the DA's job with a shit-load of charges stemming from the original complaint).
The Eighth Amendment is something I've never really understood because the Language seems subjective.
EIGHTH AMENDMENT
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive Bail

: Analysis and Interpretation of the of the U.S. Constitution

law.justia.com

That's certainly part of the problem, but I don't even think that's a major part.

In the jurisdictions with the biggest problems it's the prosecutors abusing their discretion.

"He put 3 people in the hospital, but he'll get deported if we charge him with aggravated assault, so we're just going to call it disorderly conduct, if we pursue charges at all".


And all the "Bail reform" advocates are trying to apply a band aid on a broken leg anyway.

The problem is a lack of speedy trials. You need to fix that problem.

If it takes 4 years to get a case in front of a jury, then certainly rights are being violated.

The answer is to unfuck the system so that you can get the trial underway in a couple weeks. Not to turn violent criminals loose on the streets for years at a time while we wait.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

That's certainly part of the problem, but I don't even think that's a major part.

In the jurisdictions with the biggest problems it's the prosecutors abusing their discretion.

"He put 3 people in the hospital, but he'll get deported if we charge him with aggravated assault, so we're just going to call it disorderly conduct, if we pursue charges at all".


And all the "Bail reform" advocates are trying to apply a band aid on a broken leg anyway.

The problem is a lack of speedy trials. You need to fix that problem.

If it takes 4 years to get a case in front of a jury, then certainly rights are being violated.

The answer is to unfuck the system so that you can get the trial underway in a couple weeks. Not to turn violent criminals loose on the streets for years at a time while we wait.

100% ^^^^^^

 

[Defilade]

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When the National Guard eventually rolls into other Democrat-run cities, no one’s going to be able to say Trump didn’t call his shot.

“I have calls from politicians begging me to go to Chicago, begging me to go to, New York, begging me to go to Los Angeles.”

“The only way is the military.”

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm????

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District of America = DOA
That in itself, is scary enough!

 

[JunkBoxFull]

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When the National Guard eventually rolls into other Democrat-run cities, no one’s going to be able to say Trump didn’t call his shot.

“I have calls from politicians begging me to go to Chicago, begging me to go to, New York, begging me to go to Los Angeles.”

“The only way is the military.”

Yep, i get it, but arresting susiepurplehair and her friend jonnydumbass, isn`t arresting the politicians who are the ones who need to be in jail/prison that are the root of the problem with how we got to where we are, today. You start taking down all these communist`s government thug`s, the rest will take care of itself by the American people, not the military. All this is doing is stirring the pot by sending in the military to arrest stupid leftist children and old hippie dumbasses that are protesting. To much disinformation will cause their protests to build bigger and much worse. Trump is a phuckin idiot to do this. They protest because of communists government thugs, the likes of Maxipad Waters, who should have been one of the FIRST to be arrested, AFTER the clit-e-tons were arrested. But the clit-i-tons got off scott free and Maxipad Waters is still running her commie mouth. We all know how this gooberment works. They play the shame-n-blame game because they`ve been caught up in the public eye. The military should be rounding up politicians, not dumb kids and old hippies.

I have ZERO faith in this government. Neither side gives a shit about anything but MONEY & POWER!

 

[FP1201]

That's certainly part of the problem, but I don't even think that's a major part.

In the jurisdictions with the biggest problems it's the prosecutors abusing their discretion.

"He put 3 people in the hospital, but he'll get deported if we charge him with aggravated assault, so we're just going to call it disorderly conduct, if we pursue charges at all".


And all the "Bail reform" advocates are trying to apply a band aid on a broken leg anyway.

The problem is a lack of speedy trials. You need to fix that problem.

If it takes 4 years to get a case in front of a jury, then certainly rights are being violated.

The answer is to unfuck the system so that you can get the trial underway in a couple weeks. Not to turn violent criminals loose on the streets for years at a time while we wait.

Near as I can figure, a good many of the DA's are overworked and like any politician, they're thinking about winning the next election; Crimes in NY seems to be hard to prove, so for a win they'll plea bargain down lots of charges and/or serious ones for a guilty plea and recommendation to the Judge for fines and sentencing, which keeps things moving along...on the petty end of the scale is Traffic Citations: They DO NOT want to "go to trial" as it detracts from their money machine by having to bring the Officer(s) in as witnesses, professionals/experts, depositions, etc. which is why unless you're a real habitual fucktard or really screwed the pooch, they'll reduce the charges so long as you plead guilty and most importantly PAY THE FINES, but I digress from the real point of the post....Just remember that Cops, DA's, Judges, Clerks, etc are Government functionaries and typically lazy bastards taking the easiest way to achieve an end.

In some instances, I can see where it's better to ROR someone opposed to financially crippling if not devastating them...Even if you're Bonded out, that's 10% So, when the Judge says $100,000. Bond or $50,000 cash there aren't many that can come up with that amount of cash, or 10K to buy the Bail Bond, and we also have to remember as easy as it is in the face of evidence/witnesses that ALL ARE INNOCENT until PROVED in Court of Guilt...'course back in the day in the South, and perhaps certain neighborhoods of the North, that justice might be dealt before any Court Date is set....catch a pedo in the act: executed in the Street for all to see.

 

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When the National Guard eventually rolls into other Democrat-run cities, no one’s going to be able to say Trump didn’t call his shot.

“I have calls from politicians begging me to go to Chicago, begging me to go to, New York, begging me to go to Los Angeles.”

“The only way is the military.”

National guard is not necessary.

There are already way more police than we need. You just have to actually lock the bad guys up once you catch them.

It doesn't matter how many people you have playing tag in the street when nothing changes when you catch them.

 

[spat]

Near as I can figure, a good many of the DA's are overworked and like any politician, they're thinking about winning the next election; Crimes in NY seems to be hard to prove, so for a win they'll plea bargain down lots of charges and/or serious ones for a guilty plea and recommendation to the Judge for fines and sentencing, which keeps things moving along...on the petty end of the scale is Traffic Citations: They DO NOT want to "go to trial" as it detracts from their money machine by having to bring the Officer(s) in as witnesses, professionals/experts, depositions, etc. which is why unless you're a real habitual fucktard or really screwed the pooch, they'll reduce the charges so long as you plead guilty and most importantly PAY THE FINES, but I digress from the real point of the post....Just remember that Cops, DA's, Judges, Clerks, etc are Government functionaries and typically lazy bastards taking the easiest way to achieve an end.

In some instances, I can see where it's better to ROR someone opposed to financially crippling if not devastating them...Even if you're Bonded out, that's 10% So, when the Judge says $100,000. Bond or $50,000 cash there aren't many that can come up with that amount of cash, or 10K to buy the Bail Bond, and we also have to remember as easy as it is in the face of evidence/witnesses that ALL ARE INNOCENT until PROVED in Court of Guilt...'course back in the day in the South, and perhaps certain neighborhoods of the North, that justice might be dealt before any Court Date is set....catch a pedo in the act: executed in the Street for all to see.

So just drop all the petty stuff right off the bat. Tell the cops not to even waste their time on it.

Take the serious stuff and prosecute it as hard as you can. Pleading things down is wasting your time long term.

Which makes more sense, spend a month putting a guy away for 20 years, or spend a couple hours a month pleading *the same guy* down every month for the next 20 years ?

Sure, lots of stuff will slip through. But pretty soon you'll have the vast majority of the criminals locked up and you won't have to deal with them anymore. Then you can start worrying about the smaller stuff.

 

[Defilade]

National guard is not necessary.

There are already way more police than we need. You just have to actually lock the bad guys up once you catch them.

It doesn't matter how many people you have playing tag in the street when nothing changes when you catch them.

If you haven't figured out yet the police are following the dictates of Governors and or Mayors. We would'nt be in this mess if they did their jobs. Justice seems to be suspended in alot of areas.

 

[spat]

If you haven't figured out yet the police are following the dictates of Governors and or Mayors. We would'nt be in this mess if they did their jobs. Justice seems to be suspended in alot of areas.

For the most part the police *do* their job.

They make tons of arrests.

If the criminals weren't back on the street in hours the problem would go away.

This is entirely on the prosecutors, judges, and legislators.

 

[FP1201]

So just drop all the petty stuff right off the bat. Tell the cops not to even waste their time on it.

Take the serious stuff and prosecute it as hard as you can. Pleading things down is wasting your time long term.

Which makes more sense, spend a month putting a guy away for 20 years, or spend a couple hours a month pleading *the same guy* down every month for the next 20 years ?

Sure, lots of stuff will slip through. But pretty soon you'll have the vast majority of the criminals locked up and you won't have to deal with them anymore. Then you can start worrying about the smaller stuff.

I certainly haven't the answers and best source of inside information comes from close Friends in the LEO and Judicial System....some of the shit just blows my mind.
As for not pursuing a lot of crimes, stories on internet forums, Media sources, etc. States like California and Colorado don't even bother with the "petty stuff" which to me reinforces the behavior. "Man is only Good in fear of Societal Retribution"....worked for centuries, not so much anymore, at least in Democrat run places.
Keeping in mind I'm 100% for the deportation of People here illegally with criminal records and those with nefarious intentions, refusing to assimilate, etc. but in the back of my wee mind I wonder if once the illegal problem is solved, if those attentions will be turned inward nationwide as they're being done in DC? (which desperately needed cleaning up) I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but it IS a slippery slope.
Unless I'm mistaken, the German People got sick of all the shit from what I'll call "worthless" people and started getting rid of them, and not just the Jews, but the criminals, Christians, Pedos (all those Books they were burning? yea, they were pornography, but that was twisted for propaganda purposes)

 

[spat]

I certainly haven't the answers and best source of inside information comes from close Friends in the LEO and Judicial System....some of the shit just blows my mind.
As for not pursuing a lot of crimes, stories on internet forums, Media sources, etc. States like California and Colorado don't even bother with the "petty stuff" which to me reinforces the behavior. "Man is only Good in fear of Societal Retribution"....worked for centuries, not so much anymore, at least in Democrat run places.

Ignoring the small stuff to concentrate on the big stuff only works if you actually put away the criminals.

If you just let them right back out, literally nothing will work. You could suspend the constitution and go full blown police state and it still would change anything.

And I'm afraid that is the actual goal here. Police are becoming progressively more aggressive in a futile attempt to control the crime, and we as a society are tolerating that.

I think the police state is the end goal for the people who are running the revolving door.

 

[FP1201]

Ignoring the small stuff to concentrate on the big stuff only works if you actually put away the criminals.

If you just let them right back out, literally nothing will work. You could suspend the constitution and go full blown police state and it still would change anything.

And I'm afraid that is the actual goal here. Police are becoming progressively more aggressive in a futile attempt to control the crime, and we as a society are tolerating that.

I think the police state is the end goal for the people who are running the revolving door.

I did see an interview with the Warden of a Prison
in El Salvador: Seeing that, I sure as hell would be fearful enough NOT to fuck around...I wonder how many suicide themselves in there? Not that I or anyone wants to to go to Prison, but Ho-Lee-Fuk, we ain't got nuth'n like that here.
Entrance to the Rabbit Hole: interview prisons in El Salvador - Bing

 

[Bigfoot]

President Trump is making it possible to fight violent crime in DC and making it possible to restore law and order.

This thread is racist!
Literally Hitler! A democrat would say...
Ho Lee Fuk! Do the democrats even realize how retarded they sound?

i SuPpOrT vIoLeNt cRiMiNalS, Herr Derr says the libtards.

 

[spat]

I did see an interview with the Warden of a Prison
in El Salvador: Seeing that, I sure as hell would be fearful enough NOT to fuck around...I wonder how many suicide themselves in there? Not that I or anyone wants to to go to Prison, but Ho-Lee-Fuk, we ain't got nuth'n like that here.
Entrance to the Rabbit Hole: interview prisons in El Salvador - Bing

Prison doesn't need to be harsh. That's not the point.

It's a warehouse for people who won't conform to society and we don't have the balls to just kill.

The old school theory of "penal colonies" was a great idea. No re-occuring taxpayer expense, just ship them all to some island halfway around the world and leave them to their own devices.

The only problems with that today is the world is small and they'll find their way back too easily, and there aren't any unexplored foreign lands to use.

 

[Defilade]

For the most part the police *do* their job.

They make tons of arrests.

If the criminals weren't back on the street in hours the problem would go away.

This is entirely on the prosecutors, judges, and legislators.

My point exactly, no justice.

 

[FP1201]

Couple minor thoughts:
The Founders were fearful of a Standing Army for very good reasons...
I support Trump, and feel what he's doing is not only in the Letter, but the Spirit of the Law, and frankly necessary as the rather dark populace of the democrat run DC has turned the whole place into a shit-hole embarrassment to the World that looks to us for civility, wealth, and culture...I've been to DC several times, each subsequent trip more a disappointment than the last....BTW: Downtown Albany for five miles around the Capitol Office Buildings is just as bad or worse...so much for "The Empire State"...looks more like the destitute State.
National Guard Soldiers for the most part are ate-the-fuck-up: I realize some have been deployed, received Training for various missions (if you know a Corrections Officer, ask him how the NG Kids are doing in the Prisons and how many have had their lives totally fucked from getting swindled/conned by Inmates) and even a few are professionals in the Civilian world or were Ranking Soldiers on active duty, but for the most part they're the same as you and I with basic training...sorry, but their use is tantamount to disaster especially given deployment past a few weeks...Bodies in Uniform showing some semblance of Force and Empiricism.
I worry how long before Congress says "hey, look how well Soldiers worked out cleaning up DC, so we'll authorize Troops under NDAA to go into other Cities." And before you shout Posse Comitatus, I'll remind you that was addressed and essentially gutted with the NDAA under Bush II (who thank God we never hear from anymore) I'm all for stopping crime and criminal activities, especially in our "Big City's" but I'm all about Keeping our Rights and OUR Control over OUR Government.

 

[livingston]