If Americans want to give money to the government for one reason or another, they should be free to do so.
Trump's "listening session" on guns, not what the grabbers expected
- Thread starter GuyMontag
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If Americans want to give money to the government for one reason or another, they should be free to do so.
I agree. And given their current performance, that would be the last thing anyone would do.
That is precicely what soros and co. have engineered.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
All i gotta say is that the John Stark bug is spreading.
I guess one of my issues with the Libertarian Party is that have some really great ideas on their Platform:
Libertarians believe that the War on Drugs is ineffective, unfair, and immoral. We advocate ending it.
The War on Drugs is ineffective at limiting access to dangerous drugs and, instead, empowers dangerous gangs that make incredible fortunes on the black market for these illegal drugs.
The War on Drugs has imprisoned millions of non-violent people. This is unfair to these people and also uses up resources that would be better spent prosecuting and imprisoning people who are violent.
The War on Drugs is largely responsible for the militarization of police forces in America. It has pitted police against citizens and this is unfair to both. Police need to be able to focus on protecting the American public from violent offenders and fraud.
Lastly, Libertarians believe that it is immoral for the government to dictate which substances a person is permitted to consume, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, herbal remedies, saturated fat, marijuana, etc. These decisions belong to individual people, not the government.
Because of all of these things, Libertarians advocate ending the War on Drugs.
I agree with this. However, they seem to fall short when it comes time to come up with a plan to implement their ideas. It is easy to throw out great ides, like this one, it is a whole other thing to make it happen.
Libertarians believe that the War on Drugs is ineffective, unfair, and immoral. We advocate ending it.
The War on Drugs is ineffective at limiting access to dangerous drugs and, instead, empowers dangerous gangs that make incredible fortunes on the black market for these illegal drugs.
The War on Drugs has imprisoned millions of non-violent people. This is unfair to these people and also uses up resources that would be better spent prosecuting and imprisoning people who are violent.
The War on Drugs is largely responsible for the militarization of police forces in America. It has pitted police against citizens and this is unfair to both. Police need to be able to focus on protecting the American public from violent offenders and fraud.
Lastly, Libertarians believe that it is immoral for the government to dictate which substances a person is permitted to consume, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, herbal remedies, saturated fat, marijuana, etc. These decisions belong to individual people, not the government.
Because of all of these things, Libertarians advocate ending the War on Drugs.
I agree with this. However, they seem to fall short when it comes time to come up with a plan to implement their ideas. It is easy to throw out great ides, like this one, it is a whole other thing to make it happen.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And you took his place.
And you took his place.
Not in the least bit, again, just because people like you do NOTHING to alter the way things are going, does not mean others are as well.
Some of us are VERY involved, others such as yourself do nothing. I do not hold that against you. I said it in prior posts, some play the game and others sit back, watch and criticize.
And you took his place.
I'll give you a bit of a taste...
I have a meeting for tonight with a sitting Congressman, what are you doing this evening?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nothing. I value my time. I've already told you that that doesn't work. You know it and I know it. You can choose not to believe it and waste your time but we all know that there is only one way to fix this. The founding fathers alluded to it on various documents.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Oh. And I'll be waiting for that show you promised. 
Because only in La-La Land would one ignore the hundreds of thousands of OD’s and junkies we’d be subjected to should all drugs suddenly become legal.
What we'd actually do is realize that it's not the government's problem nor place to be attempting, and miserably failing, at controlling that.
Again, La-La Land. “Let the people deal with it!”, exactly my point.
La la land would be more "let the government keep us safe. It's not working? Well, ending it would be ridiculous. Let's make up a lie that ending the war on drugs would actually increase drug abuse, despite history telling us otherwise."
I do hope that one day your get your wish as the overtime that would ensue would be of epic proportions.
Makes sense. Not wanting to have the government involved would equate to them getting overly involved.
What? Now that's la la land.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
How much do you think this war on drugs costs for enforcement? Get rid of the war on drugs and what will gangs make money on? Newports?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The one you promised on the other thread. The one you told me and others to sit back on the sidelines and watch.
Uzi
.308 Win
I figure to neutralize all of these illegal laws and proposals, they should be met with equal force by the people. Everyone that's a gun owner should do whatever they'd like to their rifles and pistols across the nation. FFL's should start selling and gun smiths and builders start producing full autos, like smg's, belt feds, mini guns etc. Suppressors being sold like ammo, SBS's, AOW's everywhere.That entails making your pistols sbr's and make your rifles sbr's and convert them to fully auto, add whatever you want, because as americans, we actually DO have the right to do that without being put into prison and the government does NOT have the right to infringe on the second amendment like they keep doing. If countless millions of gun owners, and all FFL's and all gun manufacturers just decided to treat the law as written, that's probably all it would take.
Uzi
.308 Win
Maybe a REAL armed march with hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people might do the trick too. Simply ask to follow what the constitution says, and end it there. it would take everyone though.
Yep, cause the gangs will just disappear like a fart in the wind.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
All that would work if the police weren't in our way. If they just stepped aside and didn't say the law is the law or it's okay to charge this dude with this law because he committed some other crime, than it would work. The politician's gun laws would then be worthless.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No they won't. They'll still be there but they won't be making any real money.
They'll probably move on to other black market dealings.
How is that a justification not to end the war on drugs though?
Uzi
.308 Win
I guess the police are as equally to blame as the politicians then. Any time they make an arrest for an "illegal gun" they're helping the unconstitutional gun control 100%.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Some people don't see that or don't want to see that.