Unwanted visitor today (Texts from the state and census taker)

Cooolone · Aug 31, 2020

Does anyone honestly think that post 9-11 and with the advent of the data mining industry...

That the Gov't doesn't "KNOW" the answers to those silly questions they want you to answer!?!?

How cute! ... But such a silly exercise!

Because they "KNOW" all they need to, and a while lot more than you or I would appreciate!

That's all...

MillidotShooter · Aug 31, 2020

Chevusa said:
PA seems like a gun owners paradise. I didn’t even realize how good they were about everything until recently. Nice rural areas there too if that’s your thing.

It is... The thing about PA is even though it is becoming more liberal, the Politicians within the state know not to FUCK with the 2nd Amendment if they want to get re-elected. My older brother has all kinds of shit you could NEVER get in NY. And I'm not even talking about high cap mags... I'm talking NFA items like Suppressors and shit. I go to the PA Game Lands Gun Range at Lakawana all the time... You should see some of the shit people show up with to shoot... DROOLING!!!! AND they have open carry... And getting a CC is super easy compared to NY... Can't wait to leave this fucking shithole state....!

Catskillkid · Aug 31, 2020

Just go Hannibal Lecter on his ass next time he shows up.

BDinPutnam · Aug 31, 2020

Cooolone said:
Does anyone honestly think that post 9-11 and with the advent of the data mining industry...

That the Gov't doesn't "KNOW" the answers to those silly questions they want you to answer!?!?

How cute! ... But such a silly exercise!

Because they "KNOW" all they need to, and a while lot more than you or I would appreciate!

That's all...

Hmm.

If it were based in data mining it would likely be answers to these questions you have already proactively provided to a third party of your own volition, so...

libertysnake · Aug 31, 2020

Chevusa said:
PA seems like a gun owners paradise. I didn’t even realize how good they were about everything until recently. Nice rural areas there too if that’s your thing.

I'm strongly considering it. If NY state tries to raise taxes, and my wife's job doesn't require in-office work anymore (it may not) then there is not reason to not move to PA. She has family there, I have family there. No reason not to make the move and fuck NY for the tax dollars.

spat · Aug 31, 2020

Cooolone said:
Does anyone honestly think that post 9-11 and with the advent of the data mining industry...

That the Gov't doesn't "KNOW" the answers to those silly questions they want you to answer!?!?

How cute! ... But such a silly exercise!

Because they "KNOW" all they need to, and a while lot more than you or I would appreciate!

That's all...

They absolutely know.

But they need to get the answers from you if they want to use them for congressional apportioning purposes.

BDinPutnam · Aug 31, 2020

spat said:
They absolutely know.

But they need to get the answers from you if they want to use them for congressional apportioning purposes.

And this is partly why I don't get the reluctance to participate. What nefarious purpose do people think this data will be used for?

My wife and I did it online, it took 5 minutes, and I didn't see anything on there that doesn't already exist somewhere in one or more government datasets from prevous interactions we have had with government itself. I also don't recall there being any questions I gave a shit about the man knowing the answers to anyway.

spat · Aug 31, 2020

BDinPutnam said:
And this is partly why I don't get the reluctance to participate. What nefarious purpose do people think this data will be used for?

My wife and I did it online, it took 5 minutes, and I didn't see anything on there that doesn't already exist somewhere in one or more government datasets from prevous interactions we have had with government itself. I also don't recall there being any questions I gave a shit about the man knowing the answers to anyway.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if you're trying to game the congressional apportionment.

If we get counted in AZ instead of NY, it's a middle finger to FUAC, with no real cost to us.

Someone stuck here might just want to not be counted at all if they know the representative allocated to them is going to vote against their interests all the time.

Of course with the current makeup of the NY government, you *know* any reduction in the number of representatives is going to come out of Republican districts, so it's maybe not so helpful.

It could at least in theory affect the 2024 electoral results though.

Redshirt · Aug 31, 2020

I can see it now. A video where you push a car into the street while the suburban mom who gets $15/hr to knock on people's doors once every ten years to make some extra money looks on in horror wondering "what did I do to deserve this? I asked him how many people live in the house, just like the Constitution says I should!"

2WheelGnnr · Aug 31, 2020

BOTH me and my wife did ours online.... since we did it twice does that mean my town will qualify for a $hit ton of money from Furer Cuomo for next year?!

Mr. terzmo · Aug 31, 2020

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I'm not resistant to it. I do not like someone coming to my home and trying to force me to do it, I do not like being told what to do.

I actually enjoy participating in government when it should make a difference, ie voting. With voting, they don't tell you you have to. Just when and where, and it is up to me if I want to attend.

In 2010 I was a census worker and after doing My census gatherings, I was assigned to contact the people who had yet to accomplish the census report. Most were nice..some were @$$holes...and I can only say that anyone who refuses a census request and have a credit card: You gave more personal information for a credit card application then what is on a census request.

E the massive · Aug 31, 2020

I just wait and give my info to the census worker. I'm a job creator. America!!

BDinPutnam · Aug 31, 2020

TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
Maybe if they come back, I will give them specific info, then immediately go online and provide contradictory info. Who would they believe?

But why? Government is inefficient enough already why make it easier for them to fuck shit up?

Odds are even if the system let you do that you'd probably wind up having to interact with them more if you did that.

S&W Fan · Aug 31, 2020

Just go on line and do it for christ sakes. It isn’t the census takers fault. Why take it out on them. Just some poor schlep looking for a few extra bucks.

Phazer · Aug 31, 2020

The U.S. Constitution requires the "enumeration" of persons living in the United States. My answer on the census is always just that, a single number. That is what the Constitution requires, that is all that I provide.

Acer-m14 · Sep 10, 2020

knock knock on the door at 2pm today .. hello .. census taker ..

me ... holds hand up with just one finger pointing up .. just one here

her .. is this address correct ..

me .. the house has number on it ..

her .. whats your name ..

me.. legal citizen

her .. are you male or female ..

me .. human ..

me .. bye .. its only a head count .. have a nice day ..

her .. thank you

@Phazer @TEOTWAWKI inc.

@S&W Fan she had a camo like top on and was cool .. wish she didn't have that dang covid mask on .. i bet she was grinning ear to ear .. lol

Acer-m14 · Sep 11, 2020

shit i forgot .. i even asked her if the 20 stray cats that hang out here count .. she laughed and said no lol..

gun_slinger_boy · Sep 11, 2020

I thought everyone knew about PA already. I have my share of NFA goodies. Next will be a machine gun.

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