Updated Standing of H.R. 38

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Dayten said:
I’m clear on what the second amendment says. When did I mention anything about a mentally fit person not being able to carry? Every state has different laws, some states may contradict the other states and their policies. That’s why there should be a federal law that should be universal for all states that involves carrying and it should overrule the states.
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You didn't say anything about mentally fit people, I did. But what you said was that you think people should be forced to carry in a manner that coincides with the state laws. My point is that many state laws, like New York, are restrictive on the 2nd amendment by limiting magazine capacity, and then you have New Jersey were you can't carry hollowpoints. Those Laws are ridiculous and if there is a federal standard then it should simply be exactly as the 2nd amendment states.
 
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Celt said:
My point is that many state laws, like New York, are restrictive on the 2nd amendment by limiting magazine capacity, and then you have New Jersey were you can't carry hollowpoints. Those Laws are ridiculous and if there is a federal standard then it should simply be exactly as the 2nd amendment states.
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They way I understood it is that the laws still apply for the state your are carrying in, e.g., a permit holder from TX will be limited to a 10 rd mag while carrying in NY. Similar to how you have to obey differences in traffic laws even though a drivers license is good for all states.
 
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House passed it today. The Senate R's won't vote on until they do everything they can to make sure they have the votes to pass it.
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It passed? So now it just has to pass the senate and get trump's john hancock?
 
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It did not pass. It's being voted on now. Those previous votes were on procedures.

Edit: YEA's are at 219. It will pass.
 
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If I understand the proceedings enough, yes it has, now the Dems from NY are just crying and wanting an official electronically recorded vote. Another 5min delay for the inevitable. Never mind, I see the different text on the screen now. No matter, Ryan will do his deed to kill it in the Senate.
 
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BuffNiag said:
They way I understood it is that the laws still apply for the state your are carrying in, e.g., a permit holder from TX will be limited to a 10 rd mag while carrying in NY. Similar to how you have to obey differences in traffic laws even though a drivers license is good for all states.
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No. A permit holder from Texas can carry any pistol (including AR pistols), magazine (including 30 rounders), or ammo (including hollow points) in any state. The only provision one has to abide by in regards to state law is if a state has laws that allow private businesses to ban carry in their businesses or in their government offices, buildings, or state parks or if it mandates the pistol to be concealed.
 
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No. A permit holder from Texas can carry any pistol (including AR pistols), magazine (including 30 rounders), or ammo (including hollow points) in any state. The only provision one has to abide by in regards to state law is if a state has laws that allow private businesses to ban carry in their businesses or in their government offices, buildings, or state parks or if it mandates the pistol to be concealed.
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Well who am I to argue with you, LOL! This would be the biggest FU to every liberal judge and politician in NYS.
 
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BuffNiag said:
Well who am I to argue with you, LOL! This would be the biggest FU to every liberal judge and politician in NYS.
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Disclaimer. I'm no expert. I'm only going by my understanding of English and how it's written.

A federal judge can always skew it to whatever he wants to say it means if challenged.
 
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Well, if we could get braced pistol versions of the rifles we can't get, that would be better than nothing.
 
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Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions
If the concealed-carry bill is approved by the House and Senate and signed into law, key state and local laws protecting against gun violence could be overridden, Pelosi said, "inviting concealed weapons into schools, churches, bars and public lands."

The bill is the latest "but certainly not the last Republican attempt to wipe out common-sense" gun laws, she said, citing GOP efforts to block legislation tightening laws on background checks, refusal to create a bipartisan Select Committee on Gun Violence and a push to ease restrictions on silencers and armor-piercing bullets.
Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions

Boy I hope this passes ....
 
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Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions
If the concealed-carry bill is approved by the House and Senate and signed into law, key state and local laws protecting against gun violence could be overridden, Pelosi said, "inviting concealed weapons into schools, churches, bars and public lands."

The bill is the latest "but certainly not the last Republican attempt to wipe out common-sense" gun laws, she said, citing GOP efforts to block legislation tightening laws on background checks, refusal to create a bipartisan Select Committee on Gun Violence and a push to ease restrictions on silencers and armor-piercing bullets.
Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions

Boy I hope this passes ....
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I want to see their faces if this is successful. That will be gold.
 
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MilesTeg said:
Well with a little hope I'm going to start dreaming about an AR pistol. @Bullet Guy your going to need get some lowers in stock!
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Don't get your hopes up. If this was to miraculously pass, we would have to hope that other states will continue to still issue non-resident licenses. If they don't, your AR pistol and standard capacity magazines for it will become illegal once your non-resident license expires.

I have a feeling that will happen eventually. Just my gut.
 
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livingston said:
Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions
If the concealed-carry bill is approved by the House and Senate and signed into law, key state and local laws protecting against gun violence could be overridden, Pelosi said, "inviting concealed weapons into schools, churches, bars and public lands."

The bill is the latest "but certainly not the last Republican attempt to wipe out common-sense" gun laws, she said, citing GOP efforts to block legislation tightening laws on background checks, refusal to create a bipartisan Select Committee on Gun Violence and a push to ease restrictions on silencers and armor-piercing bullets.
Pelosi slams Republican bill easing gun restrictions

Boy I hope this passes ....
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Good thing I couldn't care less about what Pelosi says.
 
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