US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

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zorro said:
As much as I hate to say it, I think we are already screwed for the mid terms…….

prices
Cost of living
Perceived issues with ICE
Loss of Obama Care subsidies

to name just a few

I really hope I am wrong, but very little
Time to turn these issues around, most of which impact a lot of people in their pockets
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I figure defeating Iran while they're at their weakest point is the #1 priority for now.
Now that the war has started, it has to be won.

The midterms are going to have to take a back seat for now. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it is what it is.

The midterms almost always go against the party that controls the Presidency anyway.
I'm just saying... :2cents:
 
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Steal2B said:
They are the primary modules for the LCS fleet (short of the old school helicopter towed sleds like we used in Vietnam) who are not in the theater yet. The aluminum hull Littoral Class ships need, in part, to use these more remote unmanned drone tools since the mother ships are not as robust as the more traditional shock hardened hulls . I believe we were expecting Allies (some of whom have bought our equipment) to step up and clear the 6 mile wide channel.
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There are rumors China is going to ship some weapons to Iran.

We have the opportunity to do the most epic thing if we were to capture some of those mines intact and then covertly reinstall them in the path of the Chinese ships....
 
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zorro said:
As much as I hate to say it, I think we are already screwed for the mid terms…….

prices
Cost of living
Perceived issues with ICE
Loss of Obama Care subsidies

to name just a few

I really hope I am wrong, but very little
Time to turn these issues around, most of which impact a lot of people in their pockets
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There is a rapidly closing window to get this all to a good place. Maybe another month or two before it's too late to salvage the midterms.

But, I don't think it's too late yet.

If Iran is soundly defeated, the strait opened back up, the uranium seized, and oil prices are dropping by sometime in June, I think the midterms could go very well.

But even if all that stuff happens, but takes till September, I think it'll be too late to salvage the midterms.
 
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The Hormuz Get Out Of Jail Card Turned To a Grave
For decades the IRGC relied on its ability to threaten closure of the waterway as its premier economic shield and golden get out of jail card.

Roughly 21 million barrels per day of oil and petroleum products normally transit the strait. That volume accounts for one fifth of global petroleum liquids consumption and one quarter of all seaborne traded oil.

Yet the destinations of those flows expose the asymmetry that ultimately doomed the strategy.

In the first half of 2025 ~89% percent of crude oil and condensate flowed eastward to Asian markets.

China absorbed 37.7 percent of the total followed by India at 14.7 percent South Korea at 12 percent Japan at 10.9 percent and other Asian buyers at 13.9 percent.

Saudi Arabia ramped its East West Petroline to near its seven million barrels per day capacity routing crude to Red Sea terminals at Yanbu.

The United Arab Emirates expanded the Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline to Fujairah on the Gulf of Oman. Additional overland proposals and expanded export terminals emerged almost immediately.
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President Donald Trump announced a U.S. blockade on the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

Trump made the announcement in a post on his Truth Social account, blaming the failure to reach a deal with Iran during talks in Pakistan this weekend

"So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump wrote.

"At some point, we will reach an 'ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT' basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted," Trump continued.

"I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their 'Leaders,' are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition," he said.

"The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully 'LOCKED AND LOADED,' and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!" he added.
 
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Washington keeps writing blank checks, politicians keep sending our money overseas, and the media refuses to seriously question any of it — not because it’s complicated, but because it’s profitable.

Profitable for defense contractors, political donors, and a media ecosystem that would rather police what you’re allowed to say than investigate where your money is going.
 
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Steal2B said:
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President Donald Trump announced a U.S. blockade on the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

Trump made the announcement in a post on his Truth Social account, blaming the failure to reach a deal with Iran during talks in Pakistan this weekend

"So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump wrote.

"At some point, we will reach an 'ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT' basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted," Trump continued.

"I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their 'Leaders,' are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition," he said.

"The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully 'LOCKED AND LOADED,' and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!" he added.
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Seems to me that a pipeline would be cheaper in the long run, hell, the short run too. easier to defend too. Then down the road when Iran starts to ship oil again we can mine the shit out of it.
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Steal2B said:
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President Donald Trump announced a U.S. blockade on the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

Trump made the announcement in a post on his Truth Social account, blaming the failure to reach a deal with Iran during talks in Pakistan this weekend

"So, there you have it, the meeting went well, most points were agreed to, but the only point that really mattered, NUCLEAR, was not. Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz," Trump wrote.

"At some point, we will reach an 'ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT' basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, 'There may be a mine out there somewhere,' that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted," Trump continued.

"I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas. We will also begin destroying the mines the Iranians laid in the Straits. Any Iranian who fires at us, or at peaceful vessels, will be BLOWN TO HELL! Iran knows, better than anyone, how to END this situation which has already devastated their Country. Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft and Radar are useless, Khomeini, and most of their 'Leaders,' are dead, all because of their Nuclear ambition," he said.

"The Blockade will begin shortly. Other Countries will be involved with this Blockade. Iran will not be allowed to profit off this Illegal Act of EXTORTION. They want money and, more importantly, they want Nuclear. Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully 'LOCKED AND LOADED,' and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!" he added.
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GOPerfect said:
This makes this conflict as clear as possible...

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I really want to laugh at it because it is funny, but it's sad that it's funny because there's so much truth in there.

I posted way earlier in this thread that a lot of things didn't make sense to me and I have a lot of questions that I want answered, this video brought them back up, and yet, here we are a month later more of the same. SSDD
 
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Turkish President Erdogan's message to Israel-

"If Israel doesn't stop playing with fire and creates hurdles for peace process in the region, we will make sure Israel learns a good lesson. Any attack on Lebanon and Iran now will be considered an attack on Turkey"


President Erdogan- "On the day of ceasefire, Israel killed hundreds of innocent Lebanese people. Netanyahu is blinded by blood & hatred. If it was not for Pakistan mediating the war between US & Iran, we would have shown Israel it's place."

 
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Trump Warns netanyahoo

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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I really want to laugh at it because it is funny, but it's sad that it's funny because there's so much truth in there.

I posted way earlier in this thread that a lot of things didn't make sense to me and I have a lot of questions that I want answered, this video brought them back up, and yet, here we are a month later more of the same. SSDD
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Yeah that sums it up very well! And yet people continue to buy the BS Narrative. Love the end where he states. "Are we really that dumb?"
 
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