US No Longer A 'Full Democracy,' but It's Not Trump's Fault: Report

[Madmallard]

The United States has fallen from the ranks of what a respected business intelligence provider considers "full democracies" and can now only be considered a "flawed democracy" -- but the reason for the demotion may be a surprise.

As the country's new president, Donald Trump, sits in the White House and tweets about some sort of federal takeover of Chicago and continues to press false claims of massive voter fraud in an election that he won, it would be easy to assume that the new ranking from the Economist Intelligence Unit is related to his elevation to the White House.

However, the respected 70-year-old research and analysis division of the same company that publishes The Economist newspaper says that Trump's election is a symptom of broader failings of American democracy, not its cause.

The EIU democracy rankings are based on a ten-point scale, with a score based on combined rating of Electoral process and pluralism, the functioning of government, political participation, political culture, and civil liberties.

A cumulative score below 8.0 drops a country out of the "full democracy" ranks and into those of "flawed democracies," where the US now keeps company with countries that include Italy, Botswana, Sri Lanka, and Mexico.

Dragging the country's score down was its rating in the "functioning of government" (7.14) and "political participation" (7.22) categories.

US no longer a 'full democracy,' but it's not Trump's fault: Report

 

[ProgSpear]

Hey world! Listen up! The United States of America was founded as a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! Thank God we are not a 'full democracy'. (except in New Yorkistan, of course.)

 

[Darth]

Hey world! Listen up! The United States of America was founded as a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! Thank God we are not a 'full democracy'. (except in New Yorkistan, of course.)

So many people, clearly given the recent events, can't grasp this.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Full Democracy = everyone can have everyone else s stuff.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Who cares? What does it matter where we rank? It's no one else's business but ours. And newsflash. All democracies are flawed. It's also unbelievable that people are still bitching about the votes. It's over. How much longer will they complain and try to make the election illegitimate? It stinks of liberal desperation.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!

 

[Cooolone]

REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!REPUBLIC!!!!

Abso-fuckin-lutely!

This is a motherfuckin Democratic REPUBLIC!

Something they just don't understand and is why all the snowflakes cry about popular vote! Like 50.0000000001% decides anything.

 

[Nevar]

The USA is a Representative Republic

 

[prambo]

If we ever had been a "full democracy", the country would have gone tits up before 1800.

 

[Podmonkey]

Full Democracy = everyone can have everyone else s stuff.

Goddammit, no. That's Communism. A true Democracy is where every citizen has equal say and voting power on anything worth voting on. In essence the entire voting citizenry forms the legislative branch. Not a practical form of government for large populations, but it does represent the ideological democratic ideal.

 

[Pissed Off Patriot]

They got it partly right. Trump is President because the establishment political class failed us. They created the perfect storm that allowed a flawed candidate to win against them all. Trump is not to blame for that, of which there is no doubt.

The alternative to a brash, inarticulate businessman with many faults was to allow another establishment candidate to continue down the same path that has brought us to 20 trillion in debt, and would take take us to 30 trillion and beyond because they did not feel they were answerable to the American people. So, the American people chose to ignore the many faults of Trump, because they desperately wanted change that neither the DNC or the RNC could give the people on their own. Too many special interests for the politicians to be beholden too, and too many politicians only interested in what was special to them instead of the country as a whole.

To all those who are fighting Trump tooth and nail, they are ignorant. They are fighting the wrong battle. Instead, they should be fighting the very establishment that allowed us to get here in the first place. If Trump fails, we are guaranteed to be right back to having establishment candidates forced down our throats, because the Parties on both sides of the aisle have lost their way, and believe that we don't know what's best for ourselves and our country.

So go ahead, all you anti-Trumpers, see what happens to this country if you somehow manage to stop him. Future generations will curse you, when this once great country has spent itself into an unrecoverable hole of debt that collapses everything it once stood for since it's founding.

 

[Podmonkey]

Whatever. When is it time to run wild Mad Max style huh? Make the whole country a giant thunder dome for all I care anymore. The survivors can install whatever style of rule they wish in proper Darwinian fashion.

 

[Burzum]

I am shocked, you mean this is not ancient Athens, I guess I should throw my black and white voting pebbles away.

First, until Trump, the plutocrats owned BOTH parties since the late 1970s, so yes even as a Constitutional Republic, the globalists were winning, Princeton's study methodically confirmed that years ago with public opinion verse "bi-partisan" laws passed.

Finally as to true democracies, you are ALL correct, but they are not all bad, look at Switzerland, I sure would not mind having a PE57 in my closet like they can have.

 

[Darth]

Goddammit, no. That's Communism. A true Democracy is where every citizen has equal say and voting power on anything worth voting on. In essence the entire voting citizenry forms the legislative branch. Not a practical form of government for large populations, but it does represent the ideological democratic ideal.

I disagree.

Imagine this:

Full democracy:

Hillary gets in. (Majority rules.)

Dems tow the party line like the brainwashed zombies they are.

Every dem proposal passes. (Majority rules.)

Those proposals are all of the "we are entitled to your shit" variety. (Majority passed.)

Everyone can have everyone else's stuff.

 

[Podmonkey]

I disagree.

Imagine this:

Full democracy:

Hillary gets in. (Majority rules.)

Dems tow the party line like the brainwashed zombies they are.

Every dem proposal passes. (Majority rules.)

Those proposals are all of the "we are entitled to your shit" variety. (Majority passed.)

Everyone can have everyone else's stuff.

In a true democracy I doubt there would be a two party system. Voters wouldn't have to toe any line, they could cut and paste votes according to individual taste. But it would have to be a small society or else it would be too cumbersome to get anything done. And small societies are more likely to have a concensus to start with anyway.
My ideal system for me? Last person left on earth. I don't want to have to deal with anyone's shit. A dictatorship in a one man society

 

[Cooolone]

In a true democracy I doubt there would be a two party system. Voters wouldn't have to toe any line, they could cut and paste votes according to individual taste. But it would have to be a small society or else it would be too cumbersome to get anything done. And small societies are more likely to have a concensus to start with anyway.
My ideal system for me? Last person left on earth. I don't want to have to deal with anyone's shit. A dictatorship in a one man society

There wouldn't even be the need for voting, predictive technology could take Facebook likes and apply it as that would be what the majority likes/wants... Massive data collection databases would be used to validate anything and everything the controlling party wanted. Why vote when all you have to do is press the "like" button, "unlike" buttons excluded as unnecessary!

 

[Podmonkey]

There wouldn't even be the need for voting, predictive technology could take Facebook likes and apply it as that would be what the majority likes/wants... Massive data collection databases would be used to validate anything and everything the controlling party wanted. Why vote when all you have to do is press the "like" button, "unlike" buttons excluded as unnecessary!

That would only happen if the majority voted for it.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The Trump presidency, is going to be the preverbial

There wouldn't even be the need for voting, predictive technology could take Facebook likes and apply it as that would be what the majority likes/wants... Massive data collection databases would be used to validate anything and everything the controlling party wanted. Why vote when all you have to do is press the "like" button, "unlike" buttons excluded as unnecessary!

That's what would happen if Mark Zuckerberg ran for president and won.