VENEZUELA IN CHAOS!! (Citizens being ran over, shot, etc.)

[holdover]

People don't see any further than the point at which some people will pick up a gun. They think that once they pick up a gun, they'll win. They don't see that they will have to leave their families for good once they do so. They think they'll be home for dinner later on that evening.

I think that's exactly why they don't.

 

[GOPerfect]

Socialism will happen one law at a time. They aren't going to go, "Today we are officially a socialist country. Here is our new Constitution."

They'll do it slowly and in increments like the frog boiling. It's happening now. You don't see people taking to the streets with their guns when a new welfare law gets passed just the same as you don't see the same when a new gun law is passed.

I mean you have people here who actually like Obamacare. You have people here who collect some type of a hand out from the government. You have people here who actually like background checks. You have people here who think certain people shouldn't have guns. You have people here who think you shouldn't touch a gun if you had one drop of alcohol. And finally you have people here who think that certain guns shouldn't be in the hands of civilians.

These are people here. The only people who might stand up but don't. The rest of the disarmed populace certainly won't.

You're right, they implement a little more socialism every day, and people will keep allowing it.

A certain amount of socialism can persist, as long as it is supported by a robust capitalist foundation. The problem with lefties is they never think they have enough socialism, and they always want more. Eventually they get enough to capsize the whole system and it devolves into totalitarianism and economic collapse as they flail around trying to solve the problems caused by socialism with more socialism. It's like trying to fight a fire by pouring gasoline on it.

My point is that if we can manage to keep our guns long enough, then we'll still have them when we hit that point of collapse.

The lefties don't have a timetable for the collapse, they really believe that this time socialism will work. 7 years ago in Venezuela they didn't say "we better get the guns now, or we'll be screwed in 7 years when the whole house of cards collapses". They just pushed for their gun control, and they pushed their suicidal economic policies, but they don't tie them together. They don't say "we need to delay step 7 of the economic plan until we have all the guns"

If the Venezuelan people today had guns the way we do now it would be a completely different situation down there.

If we were in the situation that the Venezuelans are now (or worse), you can bet there would be plenty of people ready and willing to get frisky.

Many Americans do not realize how deep into Socialism this Country really is. It is nearly everywhere. We are surrounded by it. Our laws, our regulations, out tax system, our education and so on.

We reek of this form of government already. The poorest, they pay no tax. We, tax payers, give them a check each and every month. We feed them, we cloth them, we give them housing and free education. All on the backs of those with money. At the end of the year at tax time, we give them another check.

We now have a social type health system. Not full blown yet, just wait a bit longer. We will indeed all be on one system. Each will have the same as the next.

Social Security. Horrible system, A system that is bound to fail. People pay into it, mere peanuts. Upon retirement, they get a check each month that for many, will surpass what was paid into it. Yep, all that money is being taken from others to support the dying system. Yeah, more socialism.

The list goes on and on. We are knee deep into the abyss, no telling how deep we will go!

I agree with your whole post. Even the last sentence about people getting frisky if they managed to hold on to their guns. The problem is that those guns don't match the government's guns. We lost that equality years ago and we are losing ground even further. Those people with those guns would be taken out easily however if they decided to storm a building in an open field.

About the only thing we can do is go full Taliban on them and fight a guerilla war. Kill a soldier here and there and run. Blow up a car and run. That's about it. And even with that, they have the upper hand. They will paint you as terrorists. They will put the population against you. They would place lucrative rewards of food and station to those who have any information in the helping of apprehending of terrorists. You'll see the family of the FBI agent who got killed on TV crying at the funeral. You'll see the innocent person who got blown up by accident from the car bomb on TV. You'll have the government announce that is too dangerous to bring pallets of food into Monroe County because of the terrorist activity there. The people will blame you when little Tommy dies of malnutrition.

People don't see any further than the point at which some people will pick up a gun. They think that once they pick up a gun, they'll win. They don't see that they will have to leave their families for good once they do so. They think they'll be home for dinner later on that evening.

 

[Marine Cpl]

GP, that's why I have chosen not to care. It's not just about guns .It's many other issues like you've said before. Guns are just the nail in the coffin.

So I don't care anymore. Some may view it as giving up. I view it as realization. This country will resemble European values in the next 50 years. There is no stopping it. It's what the people want. Not us old farts but the rest. The only hold outs are us old farts teaching our young but that isn't enough. There will be a wave of 40 year olds in 20 years that will want it because it's what they were taught in schools, on TV, and online. They still be there ones holding public office. Not us.

 

[GOPerfect]

GP, that's why I have chosen not to care. It's not just about guns .It's many other issues like you've said before. Guns are just the nail in the coffin.

So I don't care anymore. Some may view it as giving up. I view it as realization. This country will resemble European values in the next 50 years. There is no stopping it. It's what the people want. Not us old farts but the rest. The only hold outs are us old farts teaching our young but that isn't enough. There will be a wave of 40 year olds in 20 years that will want it because it's what they were taught in schools, on TV, and online. They still be there ones holding public office. Not us.

Yes to all. I have been flagged on this forum many a time for trying to open eyes and talk about the bigger picture. The bigger picture than just guns.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I think Maduro sucks and would rather see guaido in charge but in no way do I want any part of involvement there.

Venezuela’s Guaido says he’s considering asking US for military intervention: ‘I will evaluate all options if necessary’