What, exactly, has Donald Trump done to YOU that reduces your Civil Rights or Standard of Living ?

[Marine Cpl]

The whole thing is...

180,000 have not died of Covid!

Of course numbers were fudged and those that actually died of cancer or other diseases without respiratory failure that were infected were counted. There’s no denying that. But if they died of respiratory failure due to pneumonia caused by Covid, then they did. Cancer, aids, ect doesn’t cause respiratory failure.

 

[Dr. Evil]

This figure is not denied by Trump administration.

As you I don't agree with everything he says and does.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It's pointless to argue with people who refuse to see the reality. 180,000 dead in only five months. That's with pandemic measures in place. It would be multiples of that number without them.
But nevermind, everybody is lying and cooking up numbers. The whole world is over-reacting including Trump.

I've lived reality in the health profession every day for the last 24 + years. I've seen the way things are and aren't. Your reality isn't actually that real when it comes to this subject. Your reality is what they want you to know and think since you were born. There has been enough evidence during this whole scamdemic that things aren't as they portray them. Hell, they've even admitted such numerous times. Again, there is a difference between dying WITH the virus and FROM the virus. When you understand that, the 180,000 number is way overblown. As mentioned by the CDC as of 8/22 there were 10,800 actual covid deaths. Again though, as long as you are happy. We've discussed this enough in the other thread. I'll respectfully bow out and leave this thread about Trump and the whole rights thingy.

 

[Mosinitis]

As you I don't agree with everything he says and does.

He has no choice. To ignore the reality would lead to facing catastrophy.

 

[GOPerfect]

This figure is not denied by Trump administration.

I don't care if the deny it or not. The Trump administration is not where I get my information from on this subject

 

[Dr. Evil]

He has no choice. To ignore the reality would lead to facing catastrophy.

Again, your reality isn't as real as you think when it comes to the subject we have discussed ad nauseum.

 

[Mosinitis]

I've lived reality in the health profession every day for the last 24 + years. I've seen the way things are and aren't. Your reality isn't actually that real when it comes to this subject. Your reality is what they want you to know and think since you were born. There has been enough evidence during this whole scamdemic that things aren't as they portray them. Hell, they've even admitted such numerous times. Again, there is a difference between dying WITH the virus and FROM the virus. When you understand that, the 180,000 number is way overblown. As mentioned by the CDC as of 8/22 there were 10,800 actual covid deaths. Again though, as long as you are happy. We've discussed this enough in the other thread. I'll respectfully bow out and leave this thread about Trump and the whole rights thingy.

You are not MD.

 

[Dr. Evil]

You are not MD.

Nor are you. Yes, I don't prescribe drugs or do surgery. I work with patients relating to the attainment of health, not the treatment of disease. Anything else I can clear up for you?

 

[Mosinitis]

Again, your reality isn't as real as you think when it comes to the subject we have discussed ad nauseum.

It's not my reality, it's pretty much all who are worth listening too.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It's not my reality, it's pretty much all who are worth listening too.

It is, you just don't realize that based on your experience. Maybe one day we can compare notes, experiences and results. I guess that would show better what is real and what isn't. It is one thing to not know. There is plenty I don't know. It is another thing to not know that you don't know. That is actually pretty scary.

 

[Mosinitis]

It is, you just don't realize that based on your experience. Maybe one day we can compare notes, experiences and results. I guess that would show better what is real and what isn't. It is one thing to not know. There is plenty I don't know. It is another thing to not know that you don't know. That is actually pretty scary.

I never made a trip around the world. Never saw the Earth from outer space. To believe it is round I have to accept the knowledge of all except flat earth society.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I never made a trip around the world. Never saw the Earth from outer space. To believe it is round I have to accept the knowledge of all accept flat earth society.

Well, in a health sense I have done some of those things and can report back what I have found.

 

[spat]

It's pointless to argue with people who refuse to see the reality. 180,000 dead in only five months. That's with pandemic measures in place. It would be multiples of that number without them.
But nevermind, everybody is lying and cooking up numbers. The whole world is over-reacting including Trump.

Wholly ineffectual "pandemic measures" that have no measurable effect on the death rate.

It would certainly not be multiples of that number.

Also, CDC has come out and admitted that number is significantly inflated, it's not a conspiracy theory territory when it's right there in a press release.

Ultimately we probably won't have a good idea until we compare the month by month mortality figures from 2019 to 2020. I don’t trust them to count "covid deaths" or cases at all, but I hope they can at least count total bodies reliably.

 

[GOPerfect]

I never made a trip around the world. Never saw the Earth from outer space. To believe it is round I have to accept the knowledge of all except flat earth society.

You are really fascinated about this Flat Earth thing aren't you?

 

[Mosinitis]

Wholly ineffectual "pandemic measures" that have no measurable effect on the death rate.

It would certainly not be multiples of that number.

Also, CDC has come out and admitted that number is significantly inflated, it's not a conspiracy theory territory when it's right there in a press release.

Ultimately we probably won't have a good idea until we compare the month by month mortality figures from 2019 to 2020. I don’t trust them to count "covid deaths" or cases at all, but I hope they can at least count total bodies reliably.

Over 180,000 is the current count accepted by all except internet flat earth society.

 

[spat]

Over 180,000 is the current count accepted by all except internet flat earth society.

I wasn’t aware the CDC were flat earthers.

Provisional COVID-19 Mortality Surveillance

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

 

[Mosinitis]

FROM SAME CDC LINK


Note: Provisional death counts are based on death certificate data received and coded by the National Center for Health Statistics as of August 27, 2020. Death counts are delayed and may differ from other published sources (see Technical Notes). Counts will be updated periodically. Additional information will be added to this site as available.

 

[Mosinitis]

Over 180,000 in only 5 months. Higher death toll then WWI and Vietnam combined.

 

[holdover]

Donald Trump was going to bring back slavery.

Was going to put homosexuals in jail

was going to stop abortions

was going to start a world war.

was going to nuke another country

was a Russian puppet.

 

[spat]

Over 180,000 in only 5 months. Higher death toll then WWI and Vietnam combined.

That's including covid, *and* pneumonia, *and* influenza, *and* thats numbers that are widely acknowledged to be inflated.

And don't forget in the same time almost 10x as many people died from stuff that *wasn’t* covid.

So, why haven’t we shut the world down for them ?

 

[Podmonkey]

Bump stock ban.
General failure to facilitate pro gun legislation
Failure to address corporate censorship.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Back to Trump. Just saw this and thought it was worth passing along for those that are interested.

Imagine if you owned a company and found out "most" of your employees were on the take, covering for each other, doing deals behind your back, lying, cheating, stealing, while furthering their own agenda and creating a powerful network of elitists who were all in on it. Imagine this went on decade after decade. Now imagine you hired a new CEO that came to you, telling you all about it while the 1000's of employees screamed it wasn't true and did everything in their power to cover their ass and make your new CEO look bad. They tried to get him fired, make up stories about him to discredit him, scare him, bribe him, etc. etc. Nothing worked. You know something isn't right, you see your new CEO producing numbers that having been seen in decades. Business is incredible, but, your 1000's of employees will do anything to bury him even if it means destroying the company. That is the current state of America, our company (We The People!) Trump is our CEO and the corrupt politicians that have made millions on the side while working for you are scared and will do anything to get rid of him. They fear for their careers, their livelihood, their freedom. Your new CEO doesn't care, he wants to clean house and he isn't scared. I don't know about you, but, I'm giving that man another four years to get the job done. Trump 2020!!!!

 

[holdover]

It looks like Gov. Andrew Cuomo isn’t done banning all sorts of events in New York. On Thursday, August 2o, the New York State Liquor Authority announced that dancing is no longer allowed in bars and restaurants throughout the city to prevent the further spread of the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19).

Cuomo’s coronavirus rules: No dancing, no cornhole, no karaoke, no kidding

New York State Liquor Authority wants to stop people from congregating in bars

www.syracuse.com

A long long time ago
I can still remember how
That music used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while
But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
Something touched me deep inside
The day the music died

So
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Did you write the book of love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock and roll?
Can music save your mortal soul?
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?
Well, I know that you're in love with him
'Cause I saw you dancin' in the gym
You both kicked off your shoes
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues
I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died

I started singin'
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die
Now, for ten years we've been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rolling stone
But, that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the king and queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
And a voice that came from you and me
Oh and while the king was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
And while Lennon read a book on Marx
The quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died

We were singin'
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
And singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die
Helter skelter in a summer swelter
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter
Eight miles high and falling fast
It landed foul on the grass
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast
Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singin'
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
And singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Oh, and there we were all in one place
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again
So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candlestick
'Cause fire is the devil's only friend
Oh and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan's spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
He was singin'
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music wouldn't play
And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire most
The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died

And they were singing
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
And them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

They were singing
Bye, bye Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die

 

[Dr. Evil]

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With all the negative attacks on President Trump I found this interesting FROM a Democrat..
This is something I’m asking you to read. It’s not for aggravation, debate or comment. If you comment I won’t answer. I’m just asking you to read what someone else wrote but I agree with mostly...
OPEN LETTER TO DEMOCRATS FROM A DEMOCRAT
I just have a few questions for you....Let me start with, I already know you don't like President Trump...that's a given,
SO
let's move on from that...
How about the division of America..
Do you really blame Trump for that?
How about when NONE of the DEMOCRATS showed up for his inauguration? Don't you think that started the division? He hadn't even been president yet, and EXCEPT for Clinton and Obama, not one democrat showed up....Is that when Trump divided America? Can you imagine if the REPUBLICANS didn't show up for Obama's inauguration because they lost??? Can you even start to imagine what would have happened?
How about when 19 minutes after Trump was inaugurated, the Washington Post declared the IMPEACHMENT CAMPAIGN has STARTED? Was that when Trump divided America?
How about when Nancy Pelosi ripped up Trump's state of the union right in front of the world, showing complete disrespect for the President of the United States? Did that bring the country together and is THAT when Trump divided America?
How about when America had to endure, 3 years and over 30 million dollars spent on trying to PROVE that Trump only won because of RUSSIAN COLLUSION and NOT because America voted him in and 17 Democrats did EVERYTHING in their power to PROVE that there was Russian Collusion...and came up with ZERO...? Was THAT when Trump divided America?
I can't even start to go over the NEGATIVE PRESS he's received since his surprise win...
Remember, the DONORS, the likes Bloomberg, who gave 27 million, Tom Steyer who gave 17 million, George Soros who gave 9 million and MANY MORE that gave MULTI-MILLIONS to Hillary, wanted a return on their investment...
Do you really think that donors give MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS just because they love Hillary?
NO, these weren't campaign donations, they were INVESTMENTS into what HILLARY had promised them when she became president....
They were so sure she would win and they would be SHOWERED with HUGE RETURNS, and when it didn't happen and they LOST all those millions, they went all out to TAKE TRUMP out of OFFICE by any means possible...
DID YOU KNOW that 90% of the Mainstream media and the corporations that own them, are owned by or run by BIG DEMOCRAT DONORS? You can verify all of that for yourselves...I did...
Since the moment Trump won, even before he was inaugurated, the mainstream media's reporting was 92% negative on Trump, do you know why?
It was those big donors that lost their dream of MILLIONS of dollars, on their returns that they were going to receive win Hillary was president and they weren't going to take that loss lightly...They needed to PUNISH TRUMP and those that VOTED HIM IN...
I've said this since the night he was elected...
"There is NOTHING the left won't do to take down our President”, our country and us, no low they won't go to, to get their power back", and sadly, we have seen this every single day since his election.
Let me ask you this...Have you ever listened to Trump or appreciated any accomplishment or campaign promises he's kept, have you ever gone to one of his rallies or have you just closed your mind to ANYTHING he does?
Please ask yourselves the following questions, if you dare...
What has Joe Biden done for America for the last 47 years that he's held an office?
What did Joe Biden ever do for BLACKS when HE and Obama were in office?
What has Joe Biden ever done in his entire life to create a private-sector job?
What has Joe Biden done to help the American middle class worker?
Let me also ask you this...Why do you think there are so many people tearing down statues, burning flag, beating up police officers, disrespecting our founders and hating our country?
It comes straight from our SCHOOLS that have slowly been tearing down our history...
If there is a teacher out there, please tell me the following:
Do you teach the truth that it was the DEMOCRATS that:
Were the KKK?
That the GRAND LEADER of the KKK was Robert Byrd, who was elected to congress and served for decades, and that it was Hillary, Bill, and Obama that gave his EULOGY praising him?
That the DEMOCRATS fought the Civil war to KEEP SLAVERY?
That the inner-city ghettoes were created by DEMOCRATS to keep control of slaves after they were freed?
That planned parenthood was founded in inner cities to CONTROL the BLACK POPULATION?
Is any of this in your history books?
Let me ask you this as well.
Can a student speak up when he/she disagrees with a teacher when they say that Trump is a horrible president or the electoral college has to be eliminated? Don't think so?
Well, I know a student that actually happened to...When the teacher said it had to be eliminated because Hillary lost, and he stated the reason it should stay,
She ripped him apart and gave the entire class a 5 hour test, and stated it was because he DARED to disagree with her...
Is that happening in your schools?
I'm only asking questions....I'd like your answers..
President Trump and his entire family has been vilified, demeaned and disrespected, for one reason and one reason only.......HE WON...
Have you noticed the DEMOCRATS only throw tantrums and OBJECT to everything he does and have NEVER ONCE gotten behind him or tried to work with him to help make America the best it can be?
WHY? They can't afford to get behind him...he would WIN AGAIN, and they can't let that happen....if he wins again, the Democrat party will be destroyed and they know it...
Did you notice that the "CAGES" the left claimed that Trump built to put Illegal children in, WERE BUILT BY OBAMA for the very purpose of PUTTING ILLEGAL CHILDREN IN?
Was THAT all over the news when Obama did it? The very same "CAGES"...but the media was silent!!
How about when Trump commuted Roger Stone's sentence,and was DEMONIZED 24/7 but NOT A WORD when Obama commuted 1715 inmates, which included 330 that he granted on his last day in office...
DID WE EVEN HEAR one WORD about it? Were there reporters even reporting it...NO! Just look at the difference in the reporting. By the way, since Trump's been in office he's commuted 10 people...compare that to Obama...Is that reporting fair?
How about when Biden and Obama allowed the H1N1, the SWINE FLU, to INFECT MILLIONS of Americans before declaring it a health emergency....
Was the press losing it's minds and calling it the OBAMAFLU AND BLAMING OBAMA and BIDEN for the spread ? SILENCE!
Compare this to the NEGATIVE COVERAGE that Trump got when, he immediately halted travel from China when, in February, Nancy Pelosi went to Chinatown and said come on down, or when DeBlasio, in March, said ride the subways and go to broadway...BUT those same people are blaming Trump for the spread of coronavirus..
A FINAL QUESTION:
What have the DEMOCRATS done to help make America the best, to get behind a president that works tirelessly to care about WE THE PEOPLE instead of using us as political pawns..
What have the democrats done for people of color EXCEPT for GIVING ILLEGALS more rights than citizens and having us pay for it...
JUST imagine what this country could accomplish if the Democrats worked with him on the economy, the coronavirus, the inner cities where he's created opportunity zones, job training etc.
When Trump tried to get school choice for inner-city students they ran Betsy Devoss out!! The dems running those innercity schools wanted no part of school choice.
Have you ever wondered why it's cities that have been run, for decades, that have the MOST HOMELESS, the MOST CRIME, the most MURDERS, the worst INNER CITY schools, ARE ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS???
If you haven't started asking yourselves those questions, maybe you should..
As I said, my entire family used to be democrats, but NOT ONE will ever vote for a democrat again....They asked themselves the same questions and the answer was clear....