Acer-m14
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Lawmakers Want Answers ... but never listen to them .. so why ask ..
Why Are People Leaving New York? Lawmakers Want Answers
- Thread starter Catskillkid
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Politicians' lack of self awareness is as amusing as it is aggravating.
spat
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They don't actually care why, and they probably already know.
They just need to *appear* to be doing something.
Most of government isn't about solving problems as much as it is about appearing to solve problems.
Bustedknees
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How long before Cuomo creates a penalty tax for leaving NY ?
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
People would rather bitch and eat it rather than fight/protest/vote to get things right. Just as We in regards to the Safe Act and 2nd amendment violations. Other's give up and leave.
SmallGameAddict
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Let me count the ways, from a North central NY perspective.
The winter weather means salt and other corrosive chemicals on the road, which turns a perfectly good $40k-$70k vehicle into rusty junk in 7-10 years.
Very limited economic opportunities if you want a piece of the American dream. If you only want to work retail for peanuts and be subsidized by the NYS .gov, welcome aboard.
Constant and ever-increasing infringements of a nanny state.
Income taxes. Sales taxes. Property taxes. School taxes. Gas taxes. All well above the national average. I haven't even mentioned "fees", or "licenses".
Every time you try to make yourself a buck in this state, there are at least 5 hands out looking for a piece of it.
A .gov run by liberals who refuse to oversee a state budget that lives within its means.
I could go on, but I won't. I'd have a more productive conversation with my refrigerator, than with elected representatives.
The winter weather means salt and other corrosive chemicals on the road, which turns a perfectly good $40k-$70k vehicle into rusty junk in 7-10 years.
Very limited economic opportunities if you want a piece of the American dream. If you only want to work retail for peanuts and be subsidized by the NYS .gov, welcome aboard.
Constant and ever-increasing infringements of a nanny state.
Income taxes. Sales taxes. Property taxes. School taxes. Gas taxes. All well above the national average. I haven't even mentioned "fees", or "licenses".
Every time you try to make yourself a buck in this state, there are at least 5 hands out looking for a piece of it.
A .gov run by liberals who refuse to oversee a state budget that lives within its means.
I could go on, but I won't. I'd have a more productive conversation with my refrigerator, than with elected representatives.
This exactly. They know, they don’t care but need to appear as if it matters.
pjzwtl
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Come on there has got to be at least one mirror somewhere in the capital bldg? Look in it, there’s your answer
Catskillkid
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Vampires don't have a reflection.
Jmac00
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there already is a "exit tax" If you're a mega-rich person, physically leaving the state is a daunting task. The state will literally hound you, to which ever state you move to. The NYS Dept of Taxation and Finance (notice its tax first, finance second) will demand you prove you have COMPLETELY left the state. Good luck getting out of here
Tax collectors chase rich New Yorkers moving to low-tax states. Auditors inspect cell records, even your dog's vet bills
New York state auditors inspect cellphone records, social media, veterinary and dentist records in chasing rich out-of-state taxpayers.
Blimey
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Not a bad idea, and could be implemented.
Already when you sell a house there is a fuck you tax you pay on just selling it. They could increase that tax substantially and allow people to get an exemption if they buy a new piece of property within 6 months or something. This way it only affects people who are selling to leave.
Hillbilly77
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And unlike the elected representatives, your refrigerator actually works for you. It keeps your food fresh and your beer cold.
SmallGameAddict
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Emphasis on cold beer
Jsmegs77
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When I leave NY, I'm leaving my shoes at the border. That way I won't even track any NY dirt out of the state. Not that I'm worth enough to chase, but just for the principle of it.
Celt
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My wife wants to leave for the weather. Ive wanted to stay because of my job and family. But it's getting harder and harder justify staying in a place where I am treated like a criminal and without any representation. The only question how far do I go?
It's the same as the idiots in commifornia studying why their gas prices are higher than everyone else. They know they raised the gas tax years ago but they want to look good for the public.
@thewheels
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Government = "Solving" problems they created.
They already have it. Because I sold my home in NY, and did not buy another one, I was hit with a $2700+ charge payable to NY. One more damn reason I despise NY government, and will NEVER move back there.
Bigfoot
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I'm leaving now for the town hall to pay my property taxes.
If I was in South Carolina, I would be taking less than half the money that's sitting in front of me right now.
It is absurd how high my property tax bill is for what my property is accessed at.
If I was in South Carolina, I would be taking less than half the money that's sitting in front of me right now.
It is absurd how high my property tax bill is for what my property is accessed at.
thegatman
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Get out while the gittin is good
Catskillkid
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99cummins
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Another reason people are leaving ny is because politicians waste time and money conducting studies to find the answers everyone already knows.
libertysnake
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I'll add one.
Health insurance that costs $900+ a month, for one person, and not the highest plan either.