Why does America be so douchey!?

BerettaGuy · Oct 22, 2016

Yeah, I know what you mean. When there is a massive Earthquake or other natural disaster we (USA) don't do anything.
We are just big bad bullies to some countries that want to kill us.
Next earthquake see how much aid Iran sends.
Who is the bully when we are in international waters.
These little piss pot countries in the middle east and I will throw Russia and China in the mix only understand and respect strength and the exploit weakness.
Those sailors are in Harms Way and that is why it is called Harms way protecting your lifestyle.
You want to drive your car or drive a team of horses. If you want the horses, you have grow the oats and shovel the road apples.

Peace Out

Frankly · Oct 22, 2016

While Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack, our foreign policy was so pro-British and anti-Japan that it shouldn't have been a surprise. Why was it up to us to defend the British empire and their colonialism? We'll never know for sure but many people suspect that FDR provoked the Japanese to launch the war. Maybe WikiLeaks will find his emails? Had Lindbergh or any competent person been president we would have had lines of communication open to Japan and likely could have prevented the Pacific war altogether (who cares who runs China, it's not like Mao was better for the Chinese people or the USA).

Just think about the aftermath of WW2... Germany now controls the European economy and says what's what (not that Merkel does very well). And Japan has one of the richest, most advanced cultures ever. Who won here?

Heck we didn't even save the Jews from the gas chambers, as the Nazis didn't start massive extermination until we invaded Europe. They managed to kill however many million and now there are very few Jews in Germany. I'd say they Nazis accomplished their goal. In fact what goal didn't they accomplish? Which country is the most prosperous, high tech, healthiest?

Personally I think a government that can't run a welfare state or accomplish much of anything else can't run a war very well either. Name one government program that actually worked well and efficiently? I've gotta give props to the Apollo program but that is the single exception over 230 years, many trillions, and many lives wasted. We'd be a lot safer with guns in our homes, local militias, and a damn good volunteer Coast Guard.

Bananabandit · Oct 22, 2016

Our dick is bigger than theirs...especially compared to the Asian countries.

Mosinitis · Oct 22, 2016

Every problem we face around the world today is the result of our past intervention. Every single one.

Doc8404 · Oct 22, 2016

Strategic deterrence

Blimey · Oct 22, 2016

Frankly said:
Heck we didn't even save the Jews from the gas chambers

Nobody did, and nobody ever will. "Never again" is just something say after the fact. We do nothing in Syria, we do nothing in north korea, rwanda, etc. Never anything, just talk. At the end of the day we sit behind our walls and our borders and just thank God it's not us. We (those not suffering) rarely step. Not unless we feel the risk is very low for us.

wizrd · Oct 23, 2016

Should have listened to Ron Paul....just saying.

dsdmmat · Oct 23, 2016

Having been to many armpits of the world that I couldn't have cared less about I must say we are not the worlds bully. I don't see the Taliban or ISIS building schools for female children. I don't see India standing up to the abuse and disfiguring acid attacks on their female population of their country.

Have not seen the Mexican government stop the mass slaughter in their country. I have not seen one Arab country try to stop the raping of male children that cannot grow facial hair yet. I have not seen the Columbian government or any African government try to stop human traffickers or trafficking.

I did not see anyone stop the ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia before we got there. When I crossed the Sava River into Bosnia the first town I saw had one wall of one building still standing and there was a huge hole blown in it. When I left through the same town 7 months later the town was almost completely rebuilt and kids were playing in the school yard.

Sorry not buying or wearing the bully label.

Celt · Oct 23, 2016

I understand when people want us to "butt out" of the rest of the world, and there are times we could. However, we need to remain the big kid on the block because if we dont, simple human nature,will have russia or china stealing our allies, and pushing us out of the way.

Its naive to think we can not be involved in the affairs of the world and maintain our "way of life".

Frankly · Oct 23, 2016

Celt said:
I understand when people want us to "butt out" of the rest of the world, and there are times we could. However, we need to remain the big kid on the block because if we dont, simple human nature,will have russia or china stealing our allies, and pushing us out of the way.

Its naive to think we can not be involved in the affairs of the world and maintain our "way of life".

I admire our soldiers' service and bravery but I think we should learn our lesson that you can't impose freedom or our way of life on other countries. Unless the citizens are fighting for their own freedom, it's pointless as the whole enterprise just collapses back onto itself... i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and most every other Hellhole we wasted lives and money on.

What the military should do is march on Washington and round up the Clintons and their ilk, run a fast tribunal and line up the firing squad.

Celt · Oct 23, 2016

Frankly, as I said in my post above, there are plenty of circumstances that we do not need to be involved in. But unfortunately there are times that I think we do. That could be an entire thread by itself that could be massive.

I never want to see our soldiers lives wasted for unjust causes.

Doc8404 · Oct 23, 2016

Trust me, after being in Fallujah, losing 11, and then see it fall to those goat fuckers, I am in the middle.

Burzum · Oct 23, 2016

God I could write a treatise on this subject, where 'oh where to begin. Read "War is a Racket" by US Marine Corps. Major General and two time Medal of Honor recipient, Smedley D. Butler.

First, US foreign policy has been a total disaster if it was based on morality. I am a nationalist and a historian not a retarded jingoist, America is great but has also done many bad deeds, just a few, a few, highlights.

The Spanish American War, enough said, the brutal US occupation of the Philippines thereafter was sad;

WW1 the most blood thirsty western European empire in modern history was the British Empire, the French were quite brutal, and the Belgians murdered 10 million Congolese shortly before WW1 and the average German had greater suffrage than the average British subject in 1914, so how were we, "making the world safe for democracy" when the elites tricked US entry into the conflict in April of 1917? So America took the side of mass murders, England, Belgium, and France,

Then in Central America there were the "Banana Wars" to help the corporations screw over the natives and many other bloody interventions during the "Cold War" by supporting death squads, rebel insurgents, and bad characters of any kind who would kill labor leaders and at times clergy, because for fear they might become commies,

WW2, the man called Stalin was the largest mass-murderer in the history of Europe, likely killed at least 10 million MORE than Hitler, the British Empire killed millions as did the French Empire, YES the Third Reich needed to be stopped but the Allies were again mass murderers that the US aligned with,

Iran in 1950s was just fine with Mosaddegh they had a normal country, but the US and the UK could not handle it, so they had to overthrow him, then we had that puppet retard the Shah, the natives got restless used radical Islam as a vehicle and overthrew him,

We supported Batista in Cuba, who was a another retard, the natives got restless, turned to communism as a vehicle and then we have the Castro brothers,

Vietnam, ENOUGH SAID; though full respect given to every American who took part in that Conflict--thank you for your service,

Pol Pot,,,,well, well well, another mass murderer supported by the US,

Afghanistan, yeah great we help the religious jack-offs to beat the Soviets, that worked out real well,

George HW Bu$h's attack on Panama to take down his former asset liquidated about 5000 civilians, to "restore democracy" to a country that never had a democracy,

it goes on and on and on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this is where Dr. Ron Paul was so correct, we have nearly 190 recognized countries, at least 30-50 conflict zones or wars at any given time, money does not grow on trees and the US has mucked it up more than made it right, so best to stay out and listen to George Washington's sage advice.

Frankly · Oct 23, 2016

If we did things right the Coast Guard and Border Patrol would be more powerful than the traditional military. If everyone did national service after High School and got some basic training as well as physical labor rebuilding our infrastructure ~ then mustered out with some savings and a good rifle ~ then... well I could go on.

Doc8404 · Oct 23, 2016

Frankly said:
If we did things right the Coast Guard and Border Patrol would be more powerful than the traditional military. .

Agreed.

BerettaGuy · Oct 23, 2016

Mosinitis said:
Every problem we face around the world today is the result of our past intervention. Every single one.

EVERYTHING that is occurring today is all a continuation of WWI and the League of Nations.
League of Nations begat WWII the middle eastern countries were as screwed up then as they are now. .

Who dreamt up the League of Nations? PROGRESSIVES!

Frankly · Oct 23, 2016

BerettaGuy said:
EVERYTHING that is occurring today is all a continuation of WWI and the League of Nations.
League of Nations begat WWII the middle eastern countries were as screwed up then as they are now. .

Who dreamt up the League of Nations? PROGRESSIVES!

Woodrow F-ing Wilson and his wife. Responsible for income tax, World War One and the set for Hitler and the Cold War.

Mosinitis · Oct 24, 2016

BerettaGuy said:
EVERYTHING that is occurring today is all a continuation of WWI and the League of Nations.
League of Nations begat WWII the middle eastern countries were as screwed up then as they are now. .

Who dreamt up the League of Nations? PROGRESSIVES!

It goes back further to Adam and Eve.

Bullshit excuses.

Mosinitis · Oct 24, 2016

dsdmmat said:
Having been to many armpits of the world that I couldn't have cared less about I must say we are not the worlds bully. I don't see the Taliban or ISIS building schools for female children. I don't see India standing up to the abuse and disfiguring acid attacks on their female population of their country.

Have not seen the Mexican government stop the mass slaughter in their country. I have not seen one Arab country try to stop the raping of male children that cannot grow facial hair yet. I have not seen the Columbian government or any African government try to stop human traffickers or trafficking.

I did not see anyone stop the ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia before we got there. When I crossed the Sava River into Bosnia the first town I saw had one wall of one building still standing and there was a huge hole blown in it. When I left through the same town 7 months later the town was almost completely rebuilt and kids were playing in the school yard.

Sorry not buying or wearing the bully label.

Sorry to burst your bubble. NATO used Islamic insurgency to destabilize and break up what was left of Yugoslavia. Ethnic cleansing my ass, we were never shown what was done to Serbs. One sided propaganda followed by aggression to achieve geopolitical gains.

Frankly · Oct 24, 2016

Mosinitis said:
Sorry to burst your bubble. NATO used Islamic insurgency to destabilize and break up Yugoslavia. Ethnic cleansing my ass, we were never shown what was done to Serbs. One sided propaganda to achieve geopolitical gains.

I agree, the Clintons backed the Croats because they donated more than the Serbs.

holdover · Oct 24, 2016

Frankly said:
While Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack, our foreign policy was so pro-British and anti-Japan that it shouldn't have been a surprise. Why was it up to us to defend the British empire and their colonialism? We'll never know for sure but many people suspect that FDR provoked the Japanese to launch the war. Maybe WikiLeaks will find his emails? .

Ill save ya the trouble of Wiki leaks, Before Pearl harbor and Because of Japanese expansion, The US and Britain placed an oil embargo against Japan, and as we all know Japan has no oil it must ship it in. ( that in itself ,is an act of war) . The Japanese hand was forced. In order to obtain enough oil , they had to break the embargo, Anybody can tell you that. The attack has to come and they knew it would. And if you were the enemy commander where would be the best place to attack? Pearl harbor. The American government practically planned it out themselves. They it was commin they knew where it was coming and they broke the codes , so they even knew the approximate time , They would have know when the Japanese fleet set sail ,

The surprise attack was not surprise to FDR.and staff

Mosinitis · Oct 24, 2016

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