Try wash and wax it's night and day better.If you guys ever wanna give this a try it's a great product. Ultrasonic Case Cleaning Solution - RCBS
I got some when I first bought my stainless tumbler and it worked fantastic. In fact I've never been able to get my brass as clean with detergent and lemi shine. It's a bit too pricey though especially if you do alot of tumbling. Maybe there is a bootleg formula somewhere.