Bustedknees
.308 Win
that stove sure would look good in my Adirondack camp!
No More Heating With Firewood In New York?
- Thread starter livingston
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Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
They "PULLED" any legislation regarding wood burning in New Yorkistan
96coal449
.308 Win
2023 is in different time category.
We shall see how long not "at this time" will last.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Wood Stove And Fireplace Ban Looms In New York State
Heating and cooking with gas may also be a thing of the past soon!
This bill known as the New York State Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act was signed in 2019 and will start to have a big impact in 2022.
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Folks they write this stuff up in such a way that the average person cannot even read half of it.
I will say we will be talking about this after the next election cycle...
I will say we will be talking about this after the next election cycle...
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It's funny. I sent the bill text to my brother and asked him if he knew anything about it. He doesn't heat his home with wood perse but he has a wood burning stove that he loves. We both looked through the bill and couldn't find anything mentioning wood burning stoves or furnaces. He aparently did a word search of the bill and searched "wood burning stove" and similar and nothing came up.
The only thing I can find to connect the two, and this may be THE issue, is the mention of Climate Action Councils. They must be the ones talking about regulating wood burning furnaces, but the law itself doesn't mention them by name. This is what I meant when I said it must all be hidden in the legalese.
96coal449
.308 Win
Nothing to see here.
Now back to our regular scheduled distraction.
Cases, cases, and MORE cases.
OMG we're all gonna die!!!
Now back to our regular scheduled distraction.
Cases, cases, and MORE cases.
OMG we're all gonna die!!!
pjzwtl
.308 Win
I am told your 110% more likely to get omnicron over a wood stove. It’s science
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
After the NYS Proposition 2 passed for the State Constitution to be amended- to guarantee a right to clean air, the bureaucrats will have a green light to screw us any way a bureaucrat or ecological extremist wants. They will not need any new actions by the Legislative branch after the Constitution is changed. Hell they may start with regs now.
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ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
So yeah. The law and prop 2 enable these Climate Action Councils to fill in what the written law leaves out.
96coal449
.308 Win
Don't forget gas and oil.
No heat for you.
Fuck em. I will not comply to this bullshit either. Compliance of all is the issue.
No heat for you.
Fuck em. I will not comply to this bullshit either. Compliance of all is the issue.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
As you should not comply. If for no other reason than they offer no alternative/replacement that doesn't involve a significant cost burden to the average person this is being forced upon.
96coal449
.308 Win
Save my sweat and blood, my wood is free. They cannot afford the ensuing reactions to such a mandate.
I would burn all summer too. Just for spite.
ManualF150
.308 Win
It's not even the cost. It's the fact that it just makes sense for folks to burn wood. It's abundant and it actually helps preserve land when done correctly.
You go ask any arborist and they can write you a 10+ page paper on why it's good to cut down trees and burn them. The soot and left overs makes great fertilizer for plants and, yes more trees to properly grow. Hence when there are wild fires, plant growth afterwards just blossoms.
All my sooty leftovers goes into a large barrel that I use for fertilizer mixes.
How long has the environmental quality been around? Only a few decades. Here we are, throwing away centuries of education out the window to make stupid laws based off a few decades of "Uh, I guess we need to tree hug more". (Kind of reminds me of that herd immunity being thrown out the window on the more fashionable topic as of late...)
I'm not complying! My stove will keep eating dead trees for as long as I live!
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I was just saying that if for no other reason, the cost alone is a non-starter. I wasn't trying to devalue all the many other reasons why this whole thing is a bad idea.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Totally understandable. I was just adding more to it.
HIghlander
.223 Rem
Just means they are waiting for the mid term elections to be over with.
phatfarmerbob
.223 Rem
I will never stop burning wood and I will never leave the land of my forefathers..
Plus the dogs will eat me if I let the fire go out
GNAP
.40 S&W
So if a house burns down, would the owner be in violation??……….
phatfarmerbob
.223 Rem
Prolly,, that’s how they’ll do it .. strike it from homeowners insurance... they can get fucked idc
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
is this what there after maybe ? ..
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Folks it’s defacto ban on anything and everything that puts carbon into the air. It passed and the NYS constitution was amended to guarantee clean air, soil, and water to all NYS residents. This essentially gives them the right to do as they please. Am I saying in 2022 or 2023 they will ban wood burning stoves, no, but they can if they so chose. They will go after the largest carbon emitters first and use this to push green electric and battery cars IMO.
NYC has just done this very thing on new builds and anything remodeled that pulls a permit. I posted a thread on that earlier. It’s not a ban on any one thing, but a ban on what emissions leave the building. This is bad and allows them to do whatever and chose whatever science fits best.
Think about this in NYC if you need a new roof I’m sure you need a permit. If so you will be buying a new roof, and converting your entire home to electric. That means new panel of what 300 amps, a new furnace, new hot water tank, new stove, and possibly a new dryer. I’m sure you may need a new wire to your home and possibly a transformer upgrade too. Who pays for that? Now your $15,000 roof just turned into a $35,000-$40,000+ project and a boon to NYC in multiple permits being required and tax money galore being infused into the city. Is this a way to get citizen to pay for electrical upgrades and infuse the electric companies with more money to convert to green.
They are sinister mother fuckers and don’t ever forget that. They are worse than you can imagine.
Here is the NYC law.
NYC has just done this very thing on new builds and anything remodeled that pulls a permit. I posted a thread on that earlier. It’s not a ban on any one thing, but a ban on what emissions leave the building. This is bad and allows them to do whatever and chose whatever science fits best.
Think about this in NYC if you need a new roof I’m sure you need a permit. If so you will be buying a new roof, and converting your entire home to electric. That means new panel of what 300 amps, a new furnace, new hot water tank, new stove, and possibly a new dryer. I’m sure you may need a new wire to your home and possibly a transformer upgrade too. Who pays for that? Now your $15,000 roof just turned into a $35,000-$40,000+ project and a boon to NYC in multiple permits being required and tax money galore being infused into the city. Is this a way to get citizen to pay for electrical upgrades and infuse the electric companies with more money to convert to green.
They are sinister mother fuckers and don’t ever forget that. They are worse than you can imagine.
Here is the NYC law.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
This is possible .. question will they stop at this point... One thing I read was a concern about wood smoke in the neighborhood and asthmais this what there after maybe ? ..
96coal449
.308 Win
is this what there after maybe ? ..
The older OWBs (outdoor wood boilers), burn "dirty" and are being fazed out. The only ones in operation are the those that are grandfathered in. They have a lifespan and need replacement just like any other furnace after its service life. For over a decade new installs have been EPA approved gasification OWBs. These are downdraft units that force the wood gasses through the bed of coals into a lower burn chamber, where they are burnt off. Temps reach 2000 deg here and dump a ton of heat into the water through heat exchangers. The only thing coming out the smoke stack is steam. Just a fine mist of vapor.
It has never been about clean air. This is about controlling are resources and and controlling us with an iron fist. Make us reliant on guberment and its corporations.
Fuck these communist cunts.
96coal449
.308 Win
Nice Jotul!
HIghlander
.223 Rem
Search for Outdoor Wood Furnace (or Boiler) for more info.is this what there after maybe ? ..
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
Agenda 21, Agenda 2030…
phatfarmerbob
.223 Rem
In the top five most favorite purchases in my life
phatfarmerbob
.223 Rem
My kids favorite part of Christmas is burning the boxes and wrapping paper lol