Acer-m14
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just seen a commercial on the TV .. NY GOV bragging about her signing the microstamping bill .. it will stop criminals and make us a Safer NY ..
Semi auto rifle license law passed and headed to governor
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GTN
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Yeah I yell at the tv every time that comes onjust seen a commercial on the TV .. NY GOV bragging about her signing the microstamping bill .. it will stop criminals and make us a Safer NY ..
Acer-m14
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you seen it too .. ... so i wasn't having a nightmare lol
spat
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Reassemble = assemble again = assemble.
Yeah, didn't Monkeyface Partytits keep touting the usefulness of COBIS, right up until it was quietly cancelled for not being useful?just seen a commercial on the TV .. NY GOV bragging about her signing the microstamping bill .. it will stop criminals and make us a Safer NY ..
This is what we saw when the unSAFE Act was rammed through.
The ambiguity and vagueness kept FFLs wondering if they would fall afoul of the bullshit "law", so the decided to err on the side of caution. And we New Yorkers suffered because of it.
I don't necessarily blame the FFLs, though I would have wished they would have researched further into the crap the New York .gov was spewing.
It's past time these tyrannical politicians were held responsible for the unConstitutional "laws" they pass. And I don't mean at the voting booth.
I want a Sheriff who is well versed in Law to issue an arrest warrant for any and all NY politicians who infringe on a Right.
Acer-m14
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all the FFLs should be blowing up the capitals phones demanding they supply the hardware ...
Uninformed and Compliant
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spat
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1 bit 4 pixel video at .05 fps. Can store 2 years on a 3.5" floppy. ..
So, to buy a handgun (legally) in New York one needs a Licenses an amendment to said licenses, and a NY Licensed Dealer to facilitate that transfer. Depending on the County or in NYC obtaining that License (which must be recertified every five years and at the time an amendment is issued) will take from two weeks to sometimes years, involve Certified Training, Four Character References, Fingerprints, and background checks from the FBI, NYSP, and any locality where the applicant has lived in the last five years, then a Judge decides IF you're suitable and have a need besides self protection which is almost impossible to get in NYC, then the handgun itself is logged into two different bound Books with the NYSP notified when it comes in and goes out (where it came from, extensive description of the firearm, and a disposition of where it went) and now admittedly only a fraction of the gun crime is committed by someone lawfully owning a Handgun, and of those guns recovered that were lawfully obtained they overwhelmingly had been reported or were recently stolen.just seen a commercial on the TV .. NY GOV bragging about her signing the microstamping bill .. it will stop criminals and make us a Safer NY ..
Now the State wants new Pistols to stamp fired cases with a micro-stamp that identifies the pistol it was fired from.... Does anyone know how many crimes were solved with COBIS? (that took fired cases from ALL new Handguns) How is this going to reduce the crime from persons illegally using handguns illegally obtained and possessed illegally?
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Uninformed and Compliant
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spat
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Nah, you burn it onto a cartridge and plug it into an Atari 2600.
Phazer
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"Have you played Atari today?"
That's the idea behind it: Private sales are forbidden without going through a Dealer and no dealer means no sales and no transfers.
.gov thinks the illegal sales and shady deals come from small Dealers opposed to Corporate Box Stores many of which won't handle private sales, special orders, or transfers and IF they do they charge out the ass for them.
This will drive Some out of Business and the ones that do will charge a lot more for their services.
Bustedknees
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that's one bad quality porn video
ostensibly a "new" Licenses will be required to purchase/transfer any semi-auto and supposedly has the same requirements as a Handgun Licenses...with very few exceptions it's taking six months to get a Pistol Permit with a backlog of appointments going that far back, so you can pick up a packet, but it'll be months before getting an appointment to submit it and many months before they process it. Law says six months or less but that's meaningless to most Counties.Anybody heard anything from the counties?
Preferably "We can't do this.Have to delay it."
eta - I mean the SAR license, not the other stuff that drifted in here.
Yea, with hundreds of people wanting a SA Licenses to buy a Rifle on top of the back log of Handgun Licenses applicants it'll take years to get one.
Better buy whatever you want now or get it while you're on vacation, or get used to using a Bolt Action.
spat
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Buy a stripped receiver and order an upper?
Which does bring the question is a lower receiver semi auto? Depends on what upper is installed. So how would that be regulated??
spat
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Lower can't be semi auto.
He'll, they could sell an complete AR rifle with a solid wire in place of the gas tube and market it was a straight pull bolt action.
Swap the gas tube and you're done.
Acer-m14
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Uninformed and Compliant
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*flip the gas block
There is some case law that if the changes are insufficient the gun can be considered 'a temporarily broken semi auto'.
I don't know if that was federal, ny or another state(Cali?)
As the Mass AG showed a couple years ago we're just one declaration away from anything being anything they choose to define it as.
I figure there is a nearly even chance that in the next 0-3 years either the legislature, the AG or the SP define a stripped AR lower as a semi auto rifle subject to the license.
The currently submitted federal AWB defines any AR receiver as an assault weapon in itself.
It's an interesting outright contradiction because another clause says any manually operated rifle cannot be an AW.
garyv350
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Was it mentioned in this thread that possibly in the subtext there is a provision that you will need this additional permit to purchase rifle ammo? Similar to CT law? I didn't read every reply to know for sure. But this was a discussion at my LGS.
Until the system is actually published, nobody knows anything for sure. Speculation just for the sake of speculating is useless. At no time during the debate on the bill was anything about ammunition brought up, at least as much as I saw or heard of the debate. I would expect that if regulating ammunition under this new license was part of the scheme, certain legislators would have made a big deal about it, and I've heard nothing about that as of yet. The licensing scheme hasn't even been designed yet, much less published or implemented. This could very well turn out to be kicked down the road for several months or more before any framework gets established.
it will stopcriminalsCitizens and makeus acriminals Safer NY ..
FIFY
Acer-m14
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they got 90 days .. just like the law says that they passed .. or its null n void ... like the ammo data base .. how long as that been .. safe act 1.0
NRA you should be on this of this
I spoke to my pistol permit office today and after getting the information I wanted, I asked about the new license. She told me in no uncertain terms that they have received absolutely no guidance at all from Albany regarding the matter. If they haven't received anything, you can bet that anything you hear at your local gun shop was pulled out of someone's ass.
wait, the same NRA that'd been bashed here with accusations of lavish suits, lifestyles, and an abandonment of New York?
How is it you know they're not already involved?
Posters here inferred the NRA wrote or was behind the Legislation.
I expect with all the "not another dime" constraints they might not have funding to challenge Laws that haven't even been full interpreted.