spat
.700 Nitro Express
They do.
Their budget is a tiny fraction of the NRA's, but they do pretty well with what they have.
NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision
- Thread starter ManualF150
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Their budget is a tiny fraction of the NRA's, but they do pretty well with what they have.
Been busy, tried to read through newer posts..
This stance they are taking that it will be illegal to carry a gun somewhere unless it is posted that it is allowed is so outrageous. NO ONE is going to post that it's ok. Stores will not want to get involved. If there is a shooting, even if done by a gangster Wirth 14 prior felonies, it will still be blamed on that business that they allowed it to happen. Wow this is so messed up. My unrestricted permit is now being restricted beyond belief.
This stance they are taking that it will be illegal to carry a gun somewhere unless it is posted that it is allowed is so outrageous. NO ONE is going to post that it's ok. Stores will not want to get involved. If there is a shooting, even if done by a gangster Wirth 14 prior felonies, it will still be blamed on that business that they allowed it to happen. Wow this is so messed up. My unrestricted permit is now being restricted beyond belief.
This is EXACTLY what it means. And this will not be a simple request. It will be thew law. Violate it and become a felon. No more guns. Ever.
Don't think it can happen? All it will take is someone to *suspect* you may be carrying. The police will come and give you a lawful "pat down" for their "safety". You will then be found to be in violation of the new law ' Possession in a gun free zone", a felony, no doubt. The "concealed is concealed" thing is playing with fire and many will be charged and convicted.
Cavalry
.308 Win
What NY wants to do is opposite of what TX did with 30.05/30.06/30.07 signs with the default being no guns allowed. TX had a particular standard for the sign, size, wording, location etc. From what I have read the permitted sign in NY just has to indicate (from horechuls quote) 'something to the extent of concealed carry allowed'. As of now there does not appear to be a standard of language size etc.
If this is the case, what stops freedom loving vandals from slapping a preprinted 4x6 Avery label on the door to shithole walmart as they enter?
Muddy the waters as much as possible on where its permitted or not. The minions will get sick of scraping the stickers off the doors eventually and just leave them.
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
Vapor
.308 Win
Now she is saying you can't carry in your car.
Pushing for background checks for ammo too.
Pushing for background checks for ammo too.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I almost forgot the whole Covid shot laws.
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
No sign… dont do biz with them fk’em
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I was thinking more of the mask requirement bullshit.
We even had people here who defended the "right" of businesses to require that, completely ignoring the fact that many of them were forced to require them against their will.
That's like saying the sex was consensual because she asked for it, even though the guy with the knife demanded she do so.
LibertyWins
9mm
This is the same ideology I have for businesses that require a 'proof of vax' to enter. Even the ones that have since dropped their vax requirement, I will never give them business again. Period. This isn't communist China ... even though we're getting closer to it every day.
Nobody is going to post this, for liability, appearance and not wanting to become "involved". We are screwed.
So you're never going to the grocery store again? No grocery store is going to post a guns allowed sign. This is not realistic. We need to get serious.
4WHLDRFTN
6.5 Creedmoor
ya been screwed since most just keep compiling
ManualF150
.308 Win
There's a whole thread on it... that is well over a 1000 pages... lol
All this crap, including mask mandates and clot shots is all unconstitutional...
Egret-II
.40 S&W
If we allow New Yorkers to have access to guns it will become the Wild Wild West. Just look at Brazil.
So nobody stuck around for the summary dispositions? (edit: except nobody)
BIANCHI, DOMINIC, ET AL. V. FROSH, ATT'Y GEN. OF MD, ET AL.
ASSN. OF NJ RIFLE, ET AL. V. BRUCK, ATT'Y GEN. OF NJ, ET AL.
YOUNG, GEORGE K. V. HAWAII, ET AL.
DUNCAN, VIRGINIA, ET AL. V. BONTA, ATT'Y GEN. OF CA
...all vacated and remanded back to lower courts for further consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. Bruen
BIANCHI, DOMINIC, ET AL. V. FROSH, ATT'Y GEN. OF MD, ET AL.
ASSN. OF NJ RIFLE, ET AL. V. BRUCK, ATT'Y GEN. OF NJ, ET AL.
YOUNG, GEORGE K. V. HAWAII, ET AL.
DUNCAN, VIRGINIA, ET AL. V. BONTA, ATT'Y GEN. OF CA
...all vacated and remanded back to lower courts for further consideration in light of New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. Bruen
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Yuuup, huge day.. Young is meh but the others are big.
Downside when they are sent back to the Circuit courts (9th, 4th and 3rd) their new ruling would only affect the states in their jurisdiction. But the good news is those rulings can/will be used in future cases hopefully here in NY and the 2nd circuit
Young could be a bigger case then you think!
It's a big case for sure, but the core of that case has finally been decided. But the others are the next step to gain rights back
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
That is interesting and IMO worse than doing nothing. There are some yahoos that don’t know how to holster their weapons properly. Also it’s voluntary to participate right? By voluntary I mean I can walk in with a gun concealed and not say anything and the vast majority of times no o e would ever even know.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I think their budgets will grow and the NRA’s will shrink.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Yeah that will stand.
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Day444
.223 Rem
Historically you could carry on horse back or in a wagon of some sort, (ie: transportation).
Stop and Frisk is as dead as a dodo...............no store owner can lay a hand on you and frisk you...cops either.
Unless you are determined to flash a belt carry holster, almost openly, and shout to the world........".FUCK YOU-- IN YOUR FACE", like Rambo, no one will ever know ,OR SHOULD KNOW, that you are carrying a gun concealed, legally..........women carry on purses all the time.
Be like James Bond..the law is now on your side.
On the first 48 the other night, in 2019, Tusla cops lead a skinny short, 120 lb women out in cuffs, then frisked her, and she was concealing a glock in her tight yoga pants , in her rear end area...could not be detected except by frisking.
CONCEALED CARRY IS NOT OPEN CARRY.
Unless you are determined to flash a belt carry holster, almost openly, and shout to the world........".FUCK YOU-- IN YOUR FACE", like Rambo, no one will ever know ,OR SHOULD KNOW, that you are carrying a gun concealed, legally..........women carry on purses all the time.
Be like James Bond..the law is now on your side.
On the first 48 the other night, in 2019, Tusla cops lead a skinny short, 120 lb women out in cuffs, then frisked her, and she was concealing a glock in her tight yoga pants , in her rear end area...could not be detected except by frisking.
CONCEALED CARRY IS NOT OPEN CARRY.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
The further full retard they go, the quicker it will get over turned.
The proper procedure is to remove the gun while it remains in the holster. They are one. The weapon should never come out. You lock them up together.
It's not stop and frisk. In any police encounter they have the right to pat down for weapons. This is long upheld. All it takes is a suspicion for there to be an encounter.
Laughs in Terry stop