Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

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tirwin1 said:
Why would trump refuse to release the warrant?

There is so much bullshit in this story it's impossible to know what the truth is.

This far I have read the FBI was searching for:

- classified documents unrelated to January 6th
- documents definitely related to January 6th
- classified documents relating to nuclear codes (?!)

I would think by now if the FBI found the "gotcha" materials it had on trump it would have leaked by now. So I'm hoping this is a major cluster fuck for them.
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If the warrant is sealed, trump might be prohibited from releasing it.

Or both sides are using control of the release to maximize political benefit or minimize damage.
 
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kev74 said:
If the warrant is sealed, trump might be prohibited from releasing it.

Or both sides are using control of the release to maximize political benefit or minimize damage.
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This just does not make sense. One side or the other is going to come out looking pretty bad. I'd say every day's delay helps trump because 10 seconds after the FBI finds incriminating evidence it will be leaked to the press.
 
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Here is CTH's latest take:

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Part 4, What Was in The Trump Documents Creating Such Fear in DOJ and FBI - The Last Refuge

In Part One we outlined the background of the modern Deep State {Go Deep}. In Part Two we outlined the specifics of how President Trump was targeted by political operatives using tools created by the DC system {Go Deep}. In Part Three we outlined how and why President Trump was blocked from...
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This sounds too much like "trump is playing 4D chess" to me. Hopefully we learn the truth soon.
 
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Blimey said:
Something deeply funny about him calling for Clinton to be jailed over mishandling of documents and now he’s going to face criminal charges over the same.

Of Course he is already claiming that the FBI will plant evidence. Always playing the victim.

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The difference is the FBI already set up Flynn then Hid the evidence that Flynn was not lying.
The FBI already lied to the FISA court to get warrant to spy on Trump.
 
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Bigfoot said:
It started out about documents.

Now the story changes to nuclear codes.

WTF?
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So incredibly stupid. SMH

What do they think...Trump is going to slip into an internet cafe and order up a launch?

Codes are useless. They have zero idea how it works. They probably think the 'nuclear football' is some kind of sophisticated Xbox controller.

So embarrassed these people are considered Americans.

Fun fact - Bill Clinton actually lost the codes!


www.newsweek.com

Former 'Nuke Football' Handler Hits Out After Trump Nuclear Code Claims

The U.S. nuclear launch codes won't have been compromised by Donald Trump if he took them to Mar-a-Lago, according to a former "nuclear football" carrier.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
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lrick said:
So incredibly stupid. SMH

What do they think...Trump is going to slip into an internet cafe and order up a launch?

Codes are useless. They have zero idea how it works. They probably think the 'nuclear football' is some kind of sophisticated Xbox controller.

So embarrassed these people are considered Americans.

Fun fact - Bill Clinton actually lost the codes!


www.newsweek.com

Former 'Nuke Football' Handler Hits Out After Trump Nuclear Code Claims

The U.S. nuclear launch codes won't have been compromised by Donald Trump if he took them to Mar-a-Lago, according to a former "nuclear football" carrier.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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If those codes aren't rotated on some regular basis, and especially after a new presidential term begins...

...EVERYONE involved needs to be fired, immediately.
 
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lrick said:
So incredibly stupid. SMH

What do they think...Trump is going to slip into an internet cafe and order up a launch?

Codes are useless. They have zero idea how it works. They probably think the 'nuclear football' is some kind of sophisticated Xbox controller.

So embarrassed these people are considered Americans.

Fun fact - Bill Clinton actually lost the codes!


www.newsweek.com

Former 'Nuke Football' Handler Hits Out After Trump Nuclear Code Claims

The U.S. nuclear launch codes won't have been compromised by Donald Trump if he took them to Mar-a-Lago, according to a former "nuclear football" carrier.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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00000000

arstechnica.com

Launch code for US nukes was 00000000 for 20 years

PALs were not the pals of Strategic Command generals.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
 
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Steal2B said:
View attachment 169049
www.foxnews.com

MSNBC’s Beschloss, former CIA director Hayden ‘suggest’ Trump be executed for having nuclear documents

Former CIA director Michael Hayden was accused of suggesting Donald Trump be executed if he has illegally retained nuclear documents at his Mar-a-Lago home.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Nuclear documents? What BS. As if Trump has actual and current nuclear codes.
lrick said:
This whole thing stinks. A point that I have not seen stressed is that Reinhart is a magistrate, not even a full fledged judge - magistrates are appointed by judges, they are not elected nor are they appointed by state or federal authorities. Their jurisdiction is limited and their duties confined to lower level administrative tasks like bond hearings and signing off on search warrants, etc. In a sense, they handle the higher judge's light work.

To me, it does not make a lot of sense (if this were all legit) that such a high profile search warrant would be signed off by a simple magistrate, especially one with sordid connections like Epstein and Acosta. I would expect a search warrant issued for a former President to be signed by one of the highest level officials possible.

I wonder if the FBI felt like they might have difficulty getting this warrant signed off and got it sent to one that was anti-Trump and possibly also compromised or vulnerable to blackmail. I don't know the mechanisms for issuing search warrants, maybe any LEOs can answer - do LEO/LEAs have any ability to steer the warrant request? Can search warrants be "shopped around" for a judge to sign off? Or does the court itself handle that internally?

I suppose it could also be that it was given to someone considered politically expendable to sign off. Maybe no one would want to risk their careers signing off.

It seems like a fishing expedition. If they were sure this was the final nail in Trump's coffin wouldn't they have put teeth into this by having it signed by a higher authority? Wouldn't there have been some official press conferences by now?
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The search warrant goes thru the DOJ. The DOJ absolutely can “steer” warrant request.
This case was more likely started or ordered by the AG himself.
 
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livingston said:

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It has now developed that the Raid at Mar-A-Largo was supported by an affidavit that positively identified both the presence of documents that were retained or taken by Trump in violation of Federal Law and where they were.

The FBI was specifically interested in Trump's "newer" safe, so presumably that's where they were told the documents were.

Except.... The safe was empty.

Trump has refused to release the copy of the warrant served on him, which is his right. But let's take a slanted-eye view of this, which upon learning that very specific information was presented to the Judge immediately came to mind.

Let's presume Trump believed he had a mole in his organization and he thought he knew who it was. And let's remember that the DOJ and FBI did screw him with Russiagate, which they knew, it was developed, was bullshit and yet used it to go after him anyway, and even worse, fed it to Congress as Articles of Impeachment. That was an active scam and nobody was prosecuted for it, while if you did the same thing as a false report to them you could and would go to prison for it.
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Trump and his lawyers said they were never given a copy. They asked the judge for a copy of it .
 
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Former national security official Kash Patel broke the ‘bad news’ to the FBI: The ‘classified’ documents it seized from Mar-A-Lago were already declassified.

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Trump Adviser Breaks the 'Bad News' to the FBI: The 'Classified Docs' in Their Possession Were Already Declassified

Former national security official Kash Patel broke the ‘bad news’ to the FBI: The ‘classified’ documents it seized from Mar-A-Lago were already declassified. Watch: “So, there’s a distinction between national security and criminal cases,” Patel said in an interview on Fox News. “And in this...
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