Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I’m afraid to say the constitution means nothing these days. I agree that is justifies me or others doing as they please.
Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?
- Thread starter Beerman
- Start date
thughes
.44 mag
Time to start shooting motherfuckers......
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the ongoing disaster that is New York's new background check system. Things have gotten so bad, that Justice Thomas has added this matter to the October 6 Emergency Docket. New Yorkers, you all need to circle that date now. What does this all mean and what can actually happen?
Just picked up 1000 rounds of 10mm without a background check or a poll tax.
As I've said before, they need to rethink eliminating the very document that grants them any sort of power.
Without it, there is only might-makes-right.
what excuse did that Japanese general give for not going past Hawaii?
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Chiming in to say that I bought ammo yesterday for the first time this crap went into effect. The store clerk told me to brace myself for delays. As luck would have it it went right through with no issues. Everyone at th counter who was waiting for theirs was jealous. Told me to go buy a lotto ticket. Stopped and got a Power Ball on the way home.
And no, I did not win that sadly. Though close to a billion dollars might be able to fund the lawsuit for a few years.
And no, I did not win that sadly. Though close to a billion dollars might be able to fund the lawsuit for a few years.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
From the article
Oh good, at least they are not trying to be coy about what they are doing. Nothing about safety, just a database.
ManualF150
.308 Win
NY Concealed Carry Improvement Act’s Background Check Hurting Local Business
New York’s rollout of background checks to buy firearm ammunition is creating issues for sellers and buyers alike. The state’s Concealed Carry Improvement Act took effect in early September and includes a background check prior to the purchase of ammunition as well as a $9 fee for a background...
www.post-journal.com
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
From the article, it is stated there is a 999 round limit. Anyone know if there is truth to this?NY Concealed Carry Improvement Act’s Background Check Hurting Local Business
New York’s rollout of background checks to buy firearm ammunition is creating issues for sellers and buyers alike. The state’s Concealed Carry Improvement Act took effect in early September and includes a background check prior to the purchase of ammunition as well as a $9 fee for a background...
Not that I'm aware of... Media is always throwing in some opinion in place of facts to sell their story.
Canada, Australia/NZ, England, and every Country that required a "registration" AkA "Database" did so before confiscation began.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
If this whole thing was Federal vs NYS only, I would be a lot more concerned about mandatory forfeiture/confiscation. As it is, NYS has far overstepped their authority. We may see just how irritated the SC is on Friday.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Doesn't matter how irritated the SC is. NY will go about business as usual with no repercussions.If this whole thing was Federal vs NYS only, I would be a lot more concerned about mandatory forfeiture/confiscation. As it is, NYS has far overstepped their authority. We may see just how irritated the SC is on Friday.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
IT people never seen a case of ammo.
thughes
.44 mag
This^
The geeks that designed the webform only extended the input field to 3 digits. "Who needs 1000 rounds to kill a deer?"
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Buy a case and the dealer keeps one round. It’s like the opposite of a bakers dozen. I’ll say that’s odd for .22LR and 1000 rounds is not much when considering that caliber.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
999 cases?This^
The geeks that designed the webform only extended the input field to 3 digits. "Who needs 1000 rounds to kill a deer?"
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Fuggum.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
I may breakdown and try my luck today... I dont NEED anything right now but always can use ammo so get a box of slug or something I have the least of......and try my luck on the spin the wheel!! pass, fail or DELAY .never a problem with NICS but........we've all seem crazy stuff with this?!
thughes
.44 mag
Help me out here: I get it if you're out of ammo and have no other option to purchase, BUT....what is the thought process behind voluntarily giving up all of your most sensitive personal information and basically registering with the state in order just to "test" this new system?
I mean, you're literally volunteering to be put into a state database that tracks and records your ammunition purchases. I just don't get it.
I mean, you're literally volunteering to be put into a state database that tracks and records your ammunition purchases. I just don't get it.
Help me out here: I get it if you're out of ammo and have no other option to purchase, BUT....what is the thought process behind voluntarily giving up all of your most sensitive personal information and basically registering with the state in order just to "test" this new system?
I mean, you're literally volunteering to be put into a state database that tracks and records your ammunition purchases. I just don't get it.
I'm very much against it.
However, the state already knows what pistols and pistol calibers we have. All they are learning is how much I shoot 9mm or .22 with my pistols.
I can see the state using the database something like this - Oh I see here he has increased his monthly shooting from 200rd to 500rds and his online profile is becoming more extreme, add a few points to his threat index ranking and put him in the high risk algorithm tracker.
I "might" buy some ammo for pistols that I own that the state already knows about.
I absolutely AM NOT buying ammo or calibers the state doesn't know about.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
If you have a pistol permit and buy pistol ammo it makes no difference. Just don't buy all your ammo in NY.Help me out here: I get it if you're out of ammo and have no other option to purchase, BUT....what is the thought process behind voluntarily giving up all of your most sensitive personal information and basically registering with the state in order just to "test" this new system?
I mean, you're literally volunteering to be put into a state database that tracks and records your ammunition purchases. I just don't get it.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
True...reconsidering......as I dont need any pistol ammo.....can always use 30-30 but.....not desperate so....your right...maybe wait till IO can get to PA.....
Let these tid-bits step in your Tea Pot: The NYSP is three to five years behind in processing the form that Dealers must fll out and submit to them for EVERY Handgun that comes in or goes out, so there's going to be at least two for each times how many thousands a year.If you have a pistol permit and buy pistol ammo it makes no difference. Just don't buy all your ammo in NY.
Their Files were so fucked up that the "recertification" along with a List of every Handgun in your possession was deemed necessary to actually determine who still has a Licenses, and what pistols they have, or possibly don't have.
The change in recertification had to be done to support the three year Renewal clause in the CCIA, still even that's fucked up within the System they use.
I strongly suspect that the new background check system for guns and ammunition is an attempt to build a registry where the one for Handguns just cannot be fixed. Hochul said it herself; the State has got to know what guns and ammunition you've got and I say it's so they know what they're after when confiscating, and/or a list of what you have to match against when you're ordered to surrender them all...say what you want, but deep down you know I'm right.
Russ Woody
.357 mag
Help me out here: I get it if you're out of ammo and have no other option to purchase, BUT....what is the thought process behind voluntarily giving up all of your most sensitive personal information and basically registering with the state in order just to "test" this new system?
I mean, you're literally volunteering to be put into a state database that tracks and records your ammunition purchases. I just don't get it.
That's just common sense
repete
.338 Win Mag
If they wanted to increase attendance they should say SHOW A NY ID AND GET IN FREE!
Tinman
.308 Win
I use to live in Mentor. Nice place.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Funny we've been down their several times ourselves for business.