4excal
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f'd up story here..Australian woman shot dead by Minneapolis police after calling to report possible crime
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Where's that crying about cops thread??
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f'd up story here..Australian woman shot dead by Minneapolis police after calling to report possible crime
GOYABEAN
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ECU Pirates
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Of course the cameras (plural) were turned off. Makes sense....
4excal
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"Lost her life after being a good neighbor"
Keeeeeep your nose out of others people shit people! Sorry if it sounds cruel but, shit happens. And again, you don't know the circumstances like i've said here when the subject came up, they could be making a movie, they can be practicing for Broadway you never know.
Keeeeeep your nose out of others people shit people! Sorry if it sounds cruel but, shit happens. And again, you don't know the circumstances like i've said here when the subject came up, they could be making a movie, they can be practicing for Broadway you never know.
My thoughts are with the family of this killed innocent.
Too many unanswered questions in this story, as usual!
Too many unanswered questions in this story, as usual!
Exonautic
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so did she go to that nearby alley directly after calling? Isn't rule number one of reporting violence not to go to where you told the cops it was.
Edit: no one knew what number rule it was.
Edit: no one knew what number rule it was.
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I know, should be an ethical imperative to not report a story like this until all the facts are known.
I just watched the news video attached to the story. It is being reported that while the victim was talking to one of the cops (Standing next to his door), the other cop in the passenger seat drew his gun and shot her? The seems beyond weird.
Bananabandit
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Was a donut involved?
ECU Pirates
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With the body cameras turned off the facts will never be known.
spat
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Journalistic standards require it. Unfortunately the just don't make real journalists anymore. The quality of reporting at the cool girls lunch table in the local high school beats most main stream news these days.
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He saw the cell phone and thought it was a gun ? That's popular lately.
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Yep, there sure are a lot of facts missing from this story. One can only hope the true ones will be brought to light and the bogus ones found out to be just that and that the investigators will get to the bottom of this. For one cop to shoot across another cop sitting in the front seat of a vehicle indicates to me either an accidental shooting (negligence to be determined), a deliberate shooting made in good faith that the shooter believed his or the other officer was at risk of death or serious bodily injury, or a deliberate act done with criminal intent. The silence about it right now is deafening. Only other new I have heard so far is that both officers have been named.
Robin
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4excal
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4excal
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When does the looting and rioting start?
Mohammed Noor huh?..........
Glenn B
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There is not enough information yet to pass quasi judgment even as an armchair or Monday morning quarterback. I have read reports saying it was supposed Officer Noor may have thought Ms. Damond improperly dressed and implying he shot her because of Muslim beliefs, that some suspect the cops as the violators relative to the initial call, that Noor's partner was shocked that Noor fired, that there was a recorded audio of Noor's partner saying so, and I imagine there are other such reports out there. If this was a shooting without justification then FUCK Noor but at least wait until some additional facts are released before you condemn him. Hopefully facts, real ones, will come out soon. What a tragedy.
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As of this morning, I learned a little more about the shooting and its aftermath. First off, Officer Noor reportedly is refusing to cooperate and to make a statement. Secondly, as per the report I heard, his partner, Officer Harrity, has apparently cooperated and has made a statement indicating that as Ms. Damond approached their vehicle there was a loud noise that startled both officers and after that is when Officer Noor fired but not that Officer Harrity did not say the noise had anything to do, or not to do, with Officer Noor firing his weapon. Reports are also saying that there was police radio traffic indicating fireworks going off in the area but those reports did not say if that radio traffic involved the two officers in question. One other thing I have read, as early as last night, is that Officer Harrity has said he was shocked that Noor fired his weapon.
So, there is now a change in the story, did you notice! Before this, it was being said that the woman was already talking to officers when Noor fired. Now it is being said she was approaching the vehicle and there was a loud startling noise. I am not saying this is a change in what the cooperating officer said, just that it is a change in the reported story. While that could be indicative that the officer has changed his story, it also could mean the media got it screwed up. Police reportedly also are seeking a man who was said to have been seen riding a bicycle in the vicinity and then who stopped and observed officers administering CPR. The police are requesting him to come forward.
Sources:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d/news-story/bf1547b67e18df8fda5e9e8e70a6fe4b
One officer interviewed in police shooting of Australian bride-to-be
So, there is now a change in the story, did you notice! Before this, it was being said that the woman was already talking to officers when Noor fired. Now it is being said she was approaching the vehicle and there was a loud startling noise. I am not saying this is a change in what the cooperating officer said, just that it is a change in the reported story. While that could be indicative that the officer has changed his story, it also could mean the media got it screwed up. Police reportedly also are seeking a man who was said to have been seen riding a bicycle in the vicinity and then who stopped and observed officers administering CPR. The police are requesting him to come forward.
Sources:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...d/news-story/bf1547b67e18df8fda5e9e8e70a6fe4b
One officer interviewed in police shooting of Australian bride-to-be
Robin
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Yeah, I noted the change of story too. I heard a loud noise last night and didn't shoot anyone.
Robby
Robby
Glenn B
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Sooner or later, Noor's department will compel, or at least should compel, him to answer questions about the shooting. They certainly can do so legally as part of the internal affairs investigation and they can do it without having him give up his right not to incriminate himself in the criminal investigation. My guess is they are hoping he will talk before then and thus there be less of a chance of any compelled statements in an administrative investigation screwing up the chance to prosecute him if it goes in that direction.
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4excal
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Meh. It's already brushed under the rug. If it weren't for here, we'd never even be hearing more than that 1st few hours after it happened. Obama still has claws set within circles of media and high places..
Actually they have the power to compell him to cooperate. Garrity or something like that...
Ultimately he would be a fool to open his mouth. He's done and will be going to jail at some point. Loud noises do not constitute a threat, let alone deadly threat, but sounds good after the fact, and is offered so early as to instill an element of doubt for jurists. The loud noise was noted by his partner who indicated the noise occurred just before the woman approached the cruiser. I would buy it (story) more, if the officers noted they were responding to an armed robbery, shots fired, etc., call and that would justify the service weapon being out and ready to go. But to shoot at the first thing you see after hearing a noise... Wow! The partner is cooperating enough to keep himself distanced from the surprise of his partner firing his weapon inside the vehicle and striking the woman. That surprise is what will do Mr. Nope in... The surprise would clearly indicate that as he was closest to the victim, he wasn't expecting a response to any threat.
And how exactly do you propose this isn't going to prosecution? Of course it is... I mean, come on, I'll use the old "if you weren't doing anything wrong, why won't you talk to us"... Like you said, his silence is deafening!
He's smart to keep his mouth shut until trial. But he will definitely crumble on the stand. 21 months in the job, and Somali background will do him in. And quite frankly, he deserves it!
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Yes, I am fully aware of that, that is why I wrote they will or should compel him. Of course, they can inform him of a Garrity and he can quit and thus have to say nothing.
Are you asking me that? If so: Excuse me but where did I write that? You may be reading too much of what you want to believe I wrote into what I actually wrote. However, while it is likely it will go the way of criminal prosecution there is no absolute guarantee. Stranger things have happened but I doubt that will be the case here. I am confident though, they will go for prosecution.