In response to far right, Rochester LGBTQ gun group hits firing line

[nfernaays]

I am just going to leave this here...

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...r-lgbtq-gun-group-hits-firing-line/790294001/

 

[libertysnake]

I am just going to leave this here...

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...r-lgbtq-gun-group-hits-firing-line/790294001/

Hey, if it gets more people to love the second amendment, great. This is what the second amendment was designed for -- namely, for people to be able to take up arms and defend themselves. Maybe the left is finalizing realizing it with this, kinda sad, attempt at using firearms for the first time.

The problem is, once you pull that trigger outside of a range. That's when your judge becomes the people around you. That's why the second amendment applies to everyone, because if you're not justified when you pull that trigger, and people around you feel you're a threat, those people can and will defend themselves in kind against your violence. That's why "safe zones" or allowing only some people to be armed doesn't work.

So, if they want to shoot, let them shoot. So long as it's not at me, because I shoot back.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Trigger Warning members are anxious about armed and organized extremists who seem increasingly emboldened. Their response has a touch of symmetry to it: They started a club to teach members how to take up arms

That would be inclusive of ISIS, Saudi Arabia and the Taliban. People sub-standardly scrutinized before they are admitted to NY thanks to Gubbiner Andy. Let the LGBTQ buy their firearms but tell them the AR with factory mag is a superior self defense firearm. Apply for your concealed carry permits and see how NY actually treats your civil rights.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Shooting trap with a scoped shotgun, a little something to work on, but a step in the right direction.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I'm starting a company producing rainbow colored clays. Get this going before anyone else does. Cha ching.

 

[libertysnake]

I'm starting a company producing rainbow colored clays. Get this going before anyone else does. Cha ching.

Capitalism at it's finest.

Still, I think they'd have to be clays that break at the sound of a gunshot. That way everyone and every shot is a winner.

 

[MilesTeg]

Boy are they going to be surprised when they learn the gun guys aren't their enemy and it's been their politicians this whole time.

 

[tirwin1]

From the article:

"A dozen shooters in a field in upstate New York does not exactly represent a vanguard of a newly armed left."

But you can bet if the local paper discovered a dozen shooters on the right side of the political spectrum this would be all the evidence required to make a front page article about dangerous right wing militias.

Still, I agree with Libertysnake and MilesTeg. The country needs more defenders of the second amendment. If they interact with other gun owners they might just find they aren't all that scary either.

 

[Cleck]

Hey, if it gets more people to love the second amendment, great. This is what the second amendment was designed for -- namely, for people to be able to take up arms and defend themselves. Maybe the left is finalizing realizing it with this, kinda sad, attempt at using firearms for the first time.

The problem is, once you pull that trigger outside of a range. That's when your judge becomes the people around you. That's why the second amendment applies to everyone, because if you're not justified when you pull that trigger, and people around you feel you're a threat, those people can and will defend themselves in kind against your violence. That's why "safe zones" or allowing only some people to be armed doesn't work.

So, if they want to shoot, let them shoot. So long as it's not at me, because I shoot back.

That would be inclusive of ISIS, Saudi Arabia and the Taliban. People sub-standardly scrutinized before they are admitted to NY thanks to Gubbiner Andy. Let the LGBTQ buy their firearms but tell them the AR with factory mag is a superior self defense firearm. Apply for your concealed carry permits and see how NY actually treats your civil rights.

Basically what I was gonna say. Good for them, let them get into it, see that they're not so bad. Most of them were raised that guns were bad, it's interesting what you can find out when you try looking yourself, instead of believing someone else's slanted view.

This reminds me, I gotta get my aunts out and shooting

 

[Cleck]

But you can bet if the local paper discovered a dozen shooters on the right side of the political spectrum this would be all the evidence required to make a front page article about dangerous right wing militias.

I can only imagine the headlines if they had seen what we were shooting yesterday, haha. Armed and ready to take down a regime or shoot up the next school or work place. Whatever your favorite narrative is, pick one.

 

[GTN]

I'm starting a company producing rainbow colored clays. Get this going before anyone else does. Cha ching.

They will call you a racist and nazi because they would try to say you're visualizing killing gays

 

[Defilade]

Get ready for a lot of N/D's

 

[GOPerfect]

Um... Good for the Queers and the Tranny's. I guess. Don't really care though either way. I have a bit of an issue with the rhetoric they are spewing about arming to go against the right and the conservatives. Kind of creepy.

Those men dressed up like women do make me laugh though.

 

[Deplorable Me]

The vast majority of the LGBTQ community lives in the inner city, in the event the SHTF guess who will be seen as the assumed weak targets by the hood rats and gangs? I can't see things ending well in cities where people have willingly given up their 2A rights in complete submission to the people they voted into power. Progressives tend to eat their own or create an environment where it is possible.

 

[Calculon]

Boy are they going to be surprised when they learn the gun guys aren't their enemy and it's been their politicians this whole time.

My thoughts exactly. I think this is a good thing. As they learn more about firearms and firearm owners they’ll see that the bugaboo of white supremacists and extremists created by the media and politicians evaporates. The vast majority of gun owners want what they want - to be left alone.

 

[MoMan]

I bet there will be a lot of jammed pistols due to limp-wristing!!
Just sayin'!!

 

[Podmonkey]

If they are enjoying themselves than the seeds of pro 2A activism have been sown. But they need to have positive interaction with mainstream shooters for their perceptions to be truly shattered. I don't know anyone that doesn't like to talk with their fellow shooters on the range. The opposite, maybe some like to yak too much!

 

[Kwalsh]

Wait till cuomo takes their guns!

 

[Darth]

"In this Oct. 8, 2017, photo, Jon Dumont reloads and shoot a shotgun during a training..."

That editing though...

 

[Deplorable Me]

Can someone warn them about the FUDDS?

 

[Podmonkey]

"In this Oct. 8, 2017, photo, Jon Dumont reloads and shoot a shotgun during a training..."

That editing though...

This from the guy who dosen't know "bread" from "bred"

 

[Darth]

This from the guy who dosen't know "bread" from "bred"

Urine bread.

 

[Podmonkey]

Urine bread.

 

[Justincase]

I bet there will be a lot of jammed pistols due to limp-wristing!!
Just sayin'!!

I see what you did there.

I lol'ed.

 

[Saltwater60]

Um... Good for the Queers and the Tranny's. I guess. Don't really care though either way. I have a bit of an issue with the rhetoric they are spewing about arming to go against the right and the conservatives. Kind of creepy.

Those men dressed up like women do make me laugh though.

I agree with everything you said. The only thing I'd like to add is the men dressed as women are not mentally sound sorry. So if they don't want mentally ill people with guns? Now are these people normally violent no, but it's coming. Also we arm ourselves against opposition they are doing the same so I understand it. My issue is they are more unstable than most conservatives. Sure there are some on both sides, but the left is becoming more militant.

 

[Podmonkey]

I agree with everything you said. The only thing I'd like to add is the men dressed as women are not mentally sound sorry. So if they don't want mentally ill people with guns? Now are these people normally violent no, but it's coming. Also we arm ourselves against opposition they are doing the same so I understand it. My issue is they are more unstable than most conservatives. Sure there are some on both sides, but the left is becoming more militant.

Are you a good shot? Do you have more ammo? Are you well acquainted with the proper remedial actions in the event of a malfunction? What are you worried about? Some of these people in their quest to "catch up" will find that they have been on the wrong side of things. The rest will find that the gap between they and those of us whom have been at this for a lifetime is vastly more than they have bargined for.
Remember that lefty "Range Day" vid? Remember the ranges they were at and their performance on target?
I am not an amazingly skilled marksman. I think my ability to be fairly representative of a competent shooter though. I can hit a standard IPSC silhouette offhand at 200 yards repeatedly, and the same supported at 300 without magnification. I can hit targets and reload and perform remedial action on the move. I have a basic understanding of how to find and use cover and concealment and the difference between the two. I have basic medical training. I know how my guns work and what their capabilities and limitations are and what my own capabilities and limitations are. I welcome anyone that wishes to gain all these things but does anyone else think that all this can be attained anytime soon?
These so called "militant leftist" are juvenile gorillas thumping on their chest. We have seen time and again that in the case of ANTIFA their main effective weapon is the suckered punch, when confronted directly they wither. Any serious armed action against their perceived enemies should, and must, engender an organized and crushing response. The powers that be will likely swoop in and nip it in the bud anyway which is actually to the left's substantial benefit. If things somehow degraded to a general melee people like us would rain down death and destruction like they wouldn't have thought possible. Many of us have training and experience that goes beyond the typical non gun LE person or even the basic military enlistee. And many of us have individual equipment approaching or even rivaling the former.
Myself, I am quite certain that I will act without restraint or compunction in such circumstances. I am nonethless happy to welcome newcomers to the patriot ranks.

 

[MoMan]

Are you a good shot? Do you have more ammo? Are you well acquainted with the proper remedial actions in the event of a malfunction? What are you worried about? Some of these people in their quest to "catch up" will find that they have been on the wrong side of things. The rest will find that the gap between they and those of us whom have been at this for a lifetime is vastly more than they have bargined for.
Remember that lefty "Range Day" vid? Remember the ranges they were at and their performance on target?
I am not an amazingly skilled marksman. I think my ability to be fairly representative of a competent shooter though. I can hit a standard IPSC silhouette offhand at 200 yards repeatedly, and the same supported at 300 without magnification. I can hit targets and reload and perform remedial action on the move. I have a basic understanding of how to find and use cover and concealment and the difference between the two. I have basic medical training. I know how my guns work and what their capabilities and limitations are and what my own capabilities and limitations are. I welcome anyone that wishes to gain all these things but does anyone else think that all this can be attained anytime soon?
These so called "militant leftist" are juvenile gorillas thumping on their chest. We have seen time and again that in the case of ANTIFA their main effective weapon is the suckered punch, when confronted directly they wither. Any serious armed action against their perceived enemies should, and must, engender an organized and crushing response. The powers that be will likely swoop in and nip it in the bud anyway which is actually to the left's substantial benefit. If things somehow degraded to a general melee people like us would rain down death and destruction like they wouldn't have thought possible. Many of us have training and experience that goes beyond the typical non gun LE person or even the basic military enlistee. And many of us have individual equipment approaching or even rivaling the former.
Myself, I am quite certain that I will act without restraint or compunction in such circumstances. I am nonethless happy to welcome newcomers to the patriot ranks.

We were having this exact discussion at my LGS a few months back. We came to the obvious conclusion that we are not only better armed, but that we also know how to fight. The "new" breed of gun owners have no clue the ass whooping they would receive if/when we decide to "fix" America. We understand things like; IDing potential targets/friendlies, the effective limits of our weapons/training, the limits on ammo quantities, how to keep our weapons functioning (and having a BUG!), when and how to engage/disengage, etc. Basically; "We know how to fight"!

Most of us have been at this a long time, and realize survival is more than just buying a gun and a box of ammo and feeling "warm & fuzzy"!

 

[alistair]

So it is okay for a gay person to call themselves QUEER, but if I did it I would be a bigot?

 

[Podmonkey]

So it is okay for a gay person to call themselves QUEER, but if I did it I would be a bigot?

Sticks and stones, sticks and stones. Speak as you wish and fuck everyone else.

 

[Uzi]

When they're starving for attention from the media just to say "hey look we bought shotguns, better not mess with us", is that really something millions of existing gun owners that have been collecting and shooting for years and years really care about? The whole, "gays for guns" thing isn't new at all either. They think for some reason that so many people actually care about the fact that the men like cocks in their assholes and the women growing beards and cutting their tits off. WE REALLY DON'T CARE! Do whatever it is that you want to do....