I think the cop is a dumbass. NC Is open carry for one. 2 you tell him to drop the gun and he’s carrying it, he goes to drop it and you kill him.
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Is this Police Shooting Justified in Your Eyes..?
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Watch this video. Zoomed in, slowed down.
As far as I can tell, the guy wasn't doing anything but talking to the driver. Both cops were all too eager to let lead fly. The only thing is, when the cops arrived , the guy should have stood and raised his hands. I think the gun was holstered. He probably would have been tackled and beaten by these two cops, but he might be alive. I have to wonder, what was the rest of the story ?
Depick
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Maybe they were jumpy maybe they weren’t I was t there so I won’t comment on that. All I can say is nothing good can come from ignoring the police and their commands.
fnfalguy
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I like turtles.
@Airborneguy @GOPerfect weigh on this?
I would like to watch this a few more times before I chime in. I'm on my phone now, I'll watch it on my computer, then I'll respond a bit deeper.
100% justified. Saw it the other day.
This wasn’t an open carrier mistakenly shot by the police. He was threatening people in the restaurant, McDonald’s I believe. There were numerous 911 calls. He hid behind the car and refused to drop his gun then clearly made some sort of motion with it. 100% I’d have shot him exactly when this officer did.
This wasn’t an open carrier mistakenly shot by the police. He was threatening people in the restaurant, McDonald’s I believe. There were numerous 911 calls. He hid behind the car and refused to drop his gun then clearly made some sort of motion with it. 100% I’d have shot him exactly when this officer did.
spat
.950 JDJ
Apparently, in some cases nothing good can come from following them either.
He appeared to be trying to follow some very poorly thought out commands.
What would you do if ordered to drop your holstered weapon ? Would you reach for it to drop it, or ignore the order ?
I’m thinking the same exact thing. I would be freaking out on what to do. I would just honestly sit there with my hands on my head.
You most likely wouldn’t rush into a McDonald’s with a gun to settle a beef though, resulting in cops being called, putting yourself in the position of trying to figure out what to do like this idiot.
ECU Pirates
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You would tell someone to drop a holstered gun then shoot him when he slowly went to put it on the ground?
ECU Pirates
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Follow a command to grab and drop a holstered gun. Good luck and make sure your life insurance is up to date.
stokes
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It appeared to me that before he put it down he moved his left hand as if to secure a two handed grip,I'd shoot.He didnt actually put it down til after he was shot.This wasnt a "good guy" with a gun.If the gun was holstered,he should have stood up hands as high and far from the gun as possible.100% justifiable
TheMoneyPit
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The shooting was justified. If you have a gun and the police have drawn on you and telling you to drop said gun and you make any sudden movement with it you’re asking to be shot. I don’t care if it holstered or in his jacket if you are not communicating to the police you are going to comply it’s not going to end well.
ECU Pirates
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She “shot a fire” I don’t know what happened before the video but I can tell you if I’m ever ordered to drop a gun that’s not in my hand I’m not doing it. I’m not going to move and will ask if I can raise my hands. This guy is correct:
“I believe this would be an extremely difficult case in which to obtain a conviction if the officers are charged,” he wrote in an email to the Observer.
Still, Williams said, officers might have been able to take other steps to prevent bloodshed.
“In hindsight, the officers probably could have said, ‘Put your hands up. Don’t move. Don’t reach toward the gun. And if you move toward your gun, we’ll shoot you.’ ”
Read more here: ‘You told me to...’: Charlotte man appeared to be lowering gun when police shot him
“I believe this would be an extremely difficult case in which to obtain a conviction if the officers are charged,” he wrote in an email to the Observer.
Still, Williams said, officers might have been able to take other steps to prevent bloodshed.
“In hindsight, the officers probably could have said, ‘Put your hands up. Don’t move. Don’t reach toward the gun. And if you move toward your gun, we’ll shoot you.’ ”
Read more here: ‘You told me to...’: Charlotte man appeared to be lowering gun when police shot him
ECU Pirates
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Where is the sudden movement? He slowly went to drop the gun while holding it my it’s barrel.
I highly doubt it was apparent to that cop in the moment that the gun was holstered. Besides, he had his hand on it the whole time it looks like to me.
He could’ve put his hands in the air, regardless of the commands. I’ve had plenty of people do something different - but equally non-threatening - than what I’ve told them to do and none of them died. He was thinking of shooting those cops for a good amount of time. That’s why he didn’t move at all.
stokes
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How do you know it was holstered?Cant see it til he raises it from his side,and it appears he moved his left hand towards it before he was shot.
ECU Pirates
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It was in pocket according to articles . Op said holstered and I didn’t check.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Cant tell where it is coming from in video,pocket,holster or just in his hand at his side,hidden from the cam.In any event if it was in any of these places,he made the wrong move and got shot for it.
spat
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Certainly not, but I can't promise that I would never accidentally print in a McD's that also contains an anti gun nutbag that makes things up to a 911 operator.
You’d react much differently than a perp who had perp intentions on his mind prior to being confronted by the police.
I’ll never understand how so many of you empathize with perps. Like see yourself in them.
They are animals that think and act in specific ways that are very different from regular people. No matter how much you deny it, cops do gain experience in dealing with this type of animal and learn how to identify them.
Of course there are mistakes and overlap in certain human actions, but there’s a reason why most people who end up shot by the police do in fact have records and were committing a crime when they got shot.
You’re not a perp. Odds are very slim (basically nil) that you will ever find yourself in the position this idiot found himself in.
They are animals that think and act in specific ways that are very different from regular people. No matter how much you deny it, cops do gain experience in dealing with this type of animal and learn how to identify them.
Of course there are mistakes and overlap in certain human actions, but there’s a reason why most people who end up shot by the police do in fact have records and were committing a crime when they got shot.
You’re not a perp. Odds are very slim (basically nil) that you will ever find yourself in the position this idiot found himself in.
Blimey
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Oh this won't go well in court.
Tell him to drop it, he moves very slowly in compliance--and the barrel is even pointed away while doing so. Then he gets shot and looks shocked to me.
Bad shoot. He was reaching for his gun, but he was told to.
Personally if I were in this situation I would completely ignore it and instead slowly move my hands away from my body upward, because touching the gun they can just say you were reaching for it.
Blimey
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I'm sure I won't. I did not see anything else before this video or read about it. I just saw a guy asked to drop his weapon by cops multiple times, and finally when he complies slowly he is shot.
Just because you don’t know any supporting facts does not make them irrelevant.
The cops didn’t stumble upon a man kneeling by his car while stopping for their meal break.
There’s a fact pattern from start to finish which supports the eventual outcome here.
The cops didn’t stumble upon a man kneeling by his car while stopping for their meal break.
There’s a fact pattern from start to finish which supports the eventual outcome here.
GOYABEAN
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I know one thing he's not making that mistake again 
when you play stupid games you win deadly prizes 
when you play stupid games you win deadly prizes
ECU Pirates
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No they were called. Just like the cops that roughed up the permit holder in the drs office.