They are greedy power hungry self serving partisan traitors.
The Visigoths are in our capital city.
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Any other losers out there? (watching Impeachment Coverage)
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They are greedy power hungry self serving partisan traitors.
The Visigoths are in our capital city.
Referring to peach mints or Treehouse ?
I have, for a long time, regretted that Flight 93 did not successfully reach its destination.
Odd how no one can ever tell me whether Congress was in session that day.
Innocents died jumping from the towers like fleas.
While scumbags escaped their deserved fate and prospered.
This is one of those days.
Odd how no one can ever tell me whether Congress was in session that day.
Innocents died jumping from the towers like fleas.
While scumbags escaped their deserved fate and prospered.
This is one of those days.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
I just can’t bring my self to watch any more. I’m tired of hearing these p
Luckily they would need more then just control but it is a sad thought and sickening that they set such a low bar going forward. So much for equal branches
Luckily they would need more then just control but it is a sad thought and sickening that they set such a low bar going forward. So much for equal branches
It's a giant sham.
It's a farce.
A joke
A partisan hack job undermining the will of the people on a duly elected president the establishment didn't like or want.
This is a slap in the face to us voters and to the integrity of our country's founding and rule of law.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
I don’t see anything stupid in him doing his job. Exactly what was wrong with asking another world leader to look into corruption involving US politicians?Cnn points out how Trump support is up and support of impeachment down in past month.
Silly democrats. Pelosi knew this was risky and they were warned. This may do nothing but show their partisanship PLUS raise attention on biden next year, giving trump an endless stick to beat him over the head with.
There would be real meat on this bone had Ukraine been denied funds but since that never happened it was just an extremely stupid action by trump (it sure was) but not enough to be booted from office.
Warning lights are flashing for Democrats as they impeach Trump
The House has voted to impeach President Donald Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress -- both tied to his actions around a July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky.www.cnn.com
Read "Debt of Honor" by Tom Clancy.
Barr had better have some PAYBACK in the oven.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard votes ‘present’ on Trump impeachment
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard was the only Democrat to vote “present” on both articles of impeachment brought against President Trump on Wednesday. Gabbard, a 2020 presidential hopeful, said Tuesd…nypost.com
I stated a while back in a different thread that as much as I like her, she will not get the Demoncratic nod to run against Trump.
I also said that things were gearing up for her to be offered a really good job in the Trump administration after his reelection. This "Vote" of hers cements my prediction.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You know what was wrong with it. Let’s not pretend what he did was above board. It simply was not.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Could you clarify what President Trump did wrong?
Just curious...
Because I do not see it.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Could you clarify what President Trump did wrong?
Just curious...
Because I do not see it.
Guys, the Senate is not going to vote to convict, they are going to send this impeachment right back out o its ass as soon as they get it. This impeachment has actually helped Trump and the GOP gin up a lot of support. This impeachment may well cost the democrats the House. Stymieing Trump's power to appoint justices is probably a good thing as well in case of Ginsburg croaking before the election. Once reelected Trump can resume making his appointments and if the GOP takes the House there won't even be a circus over it.
To be hinest the democrat party is so over the top disfunctional that they aren't even a threat right now, they have shed so much support during their crash dive to the far left. The real problem is what they far left zombie loons will get up to once the elections are over. Stand firm, stand ready, be prepared to feed the green grass what it needs to grow.
To be hinest the democrat party is so over the top disfunctional that they aren't even a threat right now, they have shed so much support during their crash dive to the far left. The real problem is what they far left zombie loons will get up to once the elections are over. Stand firm, stand ready, be prepared to feed the green grass what it needs to grow.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Politically, we got nothing on them third world shit holes.
Robin
Robin
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
All empires die... "ours" died today.
It is no longer worth the effort to save it.
Cultural Marxism, ugliness, pettiness and gibbering insanity rule the land.
If G-d ever did bless this country, he no longer does. If I were he I'd take a shit on this country from a great height...maybe he already has.
It is no longer worth the effort to save it.
Cultural Marxism, ugliness, pettiness and gibbering insanity rule the land.
If G-d ever did bless this country, he no longer does. If I were he I'd take a shit on this country from a great height...maybe he already has.
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Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Not playing this.Could you clarify what President Trump did wrong?
Just curious...
Because I do not see it.
I don't agree with the impeachment, but we all know what Trump did was stupid.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
I am not going to act like I like any part of this filth.
Some here have suggested there actually was something "illegal" or self-serving in the phone call between Trump and Zelensky.
This did NOT happen...and you know it. Nothing rising to "high crimes and misdemeanors" happened. It is fabricated porcine fecal material.
To those people, I say...
Suggest you listen to this gentleman from Louisiana...
Some here have suggested there actually was something "illegal" or self-serving in the phone call between Trump and Zelensky.
This did NOT happen...and you know it. Nothing rising to "high crimes and misdemeanors" happened. It is fabricated porcine fecal material.
To those people, I say...
Suggest you listen to this gentleman from Louisiana...
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
There was no crime in what Trump did, either on the phone call, or in refusing to help the House find dirt on him, or in appealing to the courts.
Would there have been the same outrage of Biden murdered someone in Ukraine and Trump asked them to investigate? Would that investigation be more or less acceptable?
Was it illegal for Trump to negotiate the release of Otto Warmbier from North Korea - where we got our citizen back and North Korea got a more favorable negotiation position - you know, quid pro quo, or 'this for that'?
If Trump committed a crime, he wouldn't have been impeached for "Orange Man Bad". And the Dems wouldn't have had to rely on using polling data to come up with something. There would have been criminal charges.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
The dems are digging their own grave. Yes, they're appealing to their base -- and maybe they even also believe Trump did something wrong. None of that matters.
All that matters are the optics, and the optics on the dems for most Americans are "they're butthurt because Hilary lost." Whether that's true of not is irrelevant. That's how people see them outside their base.
If they played things smart, they would've proposed legislation, let it get shot down, and point to Trump during the 2020 election and say "Well, republicans shot down all of the legislation we were proposing, without proposing a plan of their own." Instead, they doubled down on the crazy, and that's why Trump's numbers are up. They fucked themselves, between impeachment and the shitshow in Virginia, and the polls are starting to show it nationally.
I think this is appropriate here.
Everyone remember this getting ignored and swept under the rug. Getting caught on a hot mic.
Everyone remember this getting ignored and swept under the rug. Getting caught on a hot mic.
spat
.950 JDJ
I have 0 problems with the president asking a foreign leader to look into corruption that relates to a relative of someone he might face in an election a year and a half away.
I have 0 problems with a president filing suit with the judicial branch to determine if the executive branch needs to comply with a specific subpoena issued by the legislative branch. That is exactly how the separation of powers is supposed to work.
If he told Ukraine they needed to find corruption, that would be different, but that's not what he asked, and I don't get the sense that any of the parties on the call felt that way either.
If the judiciary ruled the subpoenas were proper and he still refused to comply then he would be guilty of obstruction of *justice* which is a crime. Justice, not congress.
So, which of those do you have a problem with ?
spat
.950 JDJ
If they were smart, they would drag a bunch of people in and get to the bottom of a lot of stuff under the guise of this trial.
*then* acquit Trump.
If they just dismiss it right away it is a lost opportunity IMHO.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
They won't though. Mostly because of all the Republicans who likely had their hands in the Ukraine cookie jar - like Lindsey Graham, his dead butt-buddy McStain, etc...
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
But had this happened I don't think Trump would have had to lift a finger.
For better or worse this matter seemed mainly settled and trump brought it back up to recruit a foreign entity in battling a domestic political opponent.
How is that similar? Trump did not gain anything personally from otto's release. It was that trump was seeking personal benefit that makes this smell bad.
Yes, well it looks like what he did doesn't really elevate to the status of crime. I think the fact that regardless of intent Ukraine did not really do this, and wasn't punished for it meant that the dems have nothing but scraps.
Thing is, it's impossible to say if it was legit, or there was a secondary thought about it being convenient to have biden out of the way. These corruption charges against hunter have some apparent merit. Somebody else should have pushed the matter besides trump.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Running for president doesn't preclude investigation of crimes committed. Similarly, benefiting politically from investigating a crime is not illegal. If it was, every DA who held a press conference after an arrest would be in jail.
If Biden was clean, Trump would have a problem. But Biden is dirty and there is ample evidence of his criminal behavior - including bragging about it on a stage, in front of an audience, and on video tape.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
D.C. is a cesspool of pickpockets once any politician gets a foothold they involve themselves with every pork belly scheme and one of the biggest is War and Conflict around the world . Plenty of them have stocks and families in the clean up and mop upWhich is a very lucrative business and guess what Trump isn't looking for a War well unless push came shove then all bets are off he's been rocking the boat and some have been use to staying in harbor !