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Marine Cpl said:
They open carry because they are in uniform. It would be pretty silly for a police officer or uniformed armed guard handling money to conceal carry.

On the flipside, it would be petty silly for a Federal Air Marshal or an undercover officer to open carry.

But you really know this but argue anyway for the sake of arguing. No one is saying that open carry shouldn’t be a right or should never be done. So arguing idiotic points contributes nothing to this conversation other than bullshitting for the sake of bullshitting.

The fact of the matter is that if I do not know that you are carrying while we are playing pool, I do not know. But if I know, the potential to do something with that information is there. There is no way you can spin that fact.

You are arguing that information can never be used against you.
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Problem is, you are blatantly and purposefully ignoring that the information can also be used FOR you, as a deterrent. HELL, cops often brag about the "intimidation factor" of some of the clown getups they use.
 
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Darth said:
Problem is, you are blatantly and purposefully ignoring that the information can also be used FOR you, as a deterrent. HELL, cops often brag about the "intimidation factor" of some of the clown getups they use.
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True that, I work armed wearing a Kevlar vest all in black, walk through crowds like Moses parting the Red Sea, Housewives and old lady’s gasp and clutch their children. You can tell the gun grabbing morons by the look of disgust on their faces
 
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Darth said:
Problem is, you are blatantly and purposefully ignoring that the information can also be used FOR you, as a deterrent. HELL, cops often brag about the "intimidation factor" of some of the clown getups they use.
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Deterrent for amateurs. Incentive for professionals.
 
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You deal with a lot of professional assassins on a daily basis?
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No. But lets look at the facts here. I just got out of jail for armed robbery and am at the local bar playing pool with my last 20 bucks. Your fat ass comes in, gets a beer, and asks me if you can play. While you bend over to take your shot, I spot your revolver printing on your jelly rolls. I ask you to hold a minute while I get a pitcher. When you take your next shot, I slam you over the head with the pitcher, knock you out, and take your revolver to either sell it or use it for another robbery.

That’s exactly how I would acquire a firearm if I got of jail and couldn’t buy one from a gun store or the back of a trunk. No special assassin skills necessary. Just a professional criminal mind.

The fact that you insinuate that that could never happen to further an argument or a cause is BS and you know it.
 
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No. But lets look at the facts here. I just got out of jail for armed robbery and am at the local bar playing pool with my last 20 bucks. Your fat ass comes in, gets a beer, and asks me if you can play. While you bend over to take your shot, I spot your revolver printing on your jelly rolls. I ask you to hold a minute while I get a pitcher. When you take your next shot, I slam you over the head with the pitcher, knock you out, and take your revolver to either sell it or use it for another robbery.

That’s exactly how I would acquire a firearm if I got of jail and couldn’t buy one from a gun store or the back of a trunk. No special assassin skills necessary. Just a professional criminal mind.

The fact that you insinuate that that could never happen to further an argument or a cause is BS and you know it.
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Nice scenario, but a career criminal would play nice, longer around, let you get drink and later, roll you when you eventually leave! Hahaha ;)

I wouldn't have said anything either. Your pig, your farm, live it, deal with it.

That said, I don't care much about printing, cause I make sure I'm not... I don't telegraph punches, and I'm not going to broadcast what I have. I'd prefer you underestimate me, dismiss me, pay me no mind. It's better that way!

Sun Tzu... Appear Weak when Strong, Show Strength when Weak!

When you walk out your door, you face a thousand enemies.

Stay Vigilant, Be Aware... Always!
 
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I saw a guy walking around Wegmans with a fully exposed Springfield something or other. No badge, no police garb, totally didn't have the usual cop look or aura about him. The holster had no retention device of any sort. I really think he went shooting or something and forgot the thing was there. I didn't say anything cuz I wasn't 100% sure. If I were to see someone's carry gun exposed and they certainly weren't a cop I'd likely just comment on it and say something like "Nice Sig, how do you like the 320?" I'd appreciate it if someone did that for me.
 
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Justincase said:
I saw a guy walking around Wegmans with a fully exposed Springfield something or other. No badge, no police garb, totally didn't have the usual cop look or aura about him. The holster had no retention device of any sort. I really think he went shooting or something and forgot the thing was there. I didn't say anything cuz I wasn't 100% sure. If I were to see someone's carry gun exposed and they certainly weren't a cop I'd likely just comment on it and say something like "Nice Sig, how do you like the 320?" I'd appreciate it if someone did that for me.
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Which Wegmans?
 
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I come to realize ,with all of the great holsters out there now, if some one is printing they want to be, HEY I AM BAD ASS I GOT A GUN ,

I did recently tell a fellow standing in front of my in line with a super tuck on his shirt was not pulled down and he pulled his shirt down and his gun just disappeared , I have had it happen to me with getting in and out of my wife car slide down into the seat and when you get out you shirt is pulled up
 
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misunderestimated said:
I come to realize ,with all of the great holsters out there now, if some one is printing they want to be, HEY I AM BAD ASS I GOT A GUN ,

I did recently tell a fellow standing in front of my in line with a super tuck on his shirt was not pulled down and he pulled his shirt down and his gun just disappeared , I have had it happen to me with getting in and out of my wife car slide down into the seat and when you get out you shirt is pulled up
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When it boils to it, anyone who deliberately prints or open carries while going about their business in a supermarket is just screaming for attention. Look at me! That’s a fact no matter how you try to slice it.

They might as well get a man bun and a nose piercing. Same thing.
 
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GOPerfect said:
Thought maybe me. Wife works at one and I visit all the time. I OC quite often. Carry Springfield a lot
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I'm sure based on your posts that you carry yourself way different than this guy did. Honestly nobody else even paid him any attention. Surprised me.
 
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When it boils to it, anyone who deliberately prints or open carries while going about their business in a supermarket is just screaming for attention. Look at me! That’s a fact no matter how you try to slice it.

They might as well get a man bun and a nose piercing. Same thing.
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I think most of the time it’s not intentional, I think people’s body shape plays a big role in how you can conceal, thinner people can conceal much easier than those with a larger waistline, a larger waist tends to project the shape much more.
 
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Budonahog said:
Just curious what some of you here would have done.

I am shooting pool and there were 4 or 5 of us around. I didn't really know the guy but we know who each other are. He was printing pretty bad. So much so, I could tell it was a revolver. It didn't bother me but in the times we're in, I'm sure someone could get their panties in a bunch. My question is, do I mention this or not? I didn't say anything and am now wondering if I should have.
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I dont see anything wrong with discreetly mentioning "He bud, you're losing concealment pretty regularly there.." I mean, I would want to know at least.

Beyond that, I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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I went out to dinner on new year's Eve and noticed a guy "checking me out" when I bent over a bit to help my little guy put stuff on his plate. Went intro the bathroom and replicated the position in the mirror and realized I must've been printing pretty good. Sometimes you just can't help it unless you're dressed like an old fuddydud with a cheesy old vest on or something that's super ill fitting. I'm not willing to do that so that there's no chance of printing
 
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Justincase said:
I went out to dinner on new year's Eve and noticed a guy "checking me out" when I bent over a bit to help my little guy put stuff on his plate. Went intro the bathroom and replicated the position in the mirror and realized I must've been printing pretty good. Sometimes you just can't help it unless you're dressed like an old fuddydud with a cheesy old vest on or something that's super ill fitting. I'm not willing to do that so that there's no chance of printing
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And the last part screams "I carry a gun"
 
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Darth said:
Well, no. They are attacked quite often in the job.

What's the uniform and all that other stuff got to do with open carry?

They carry that way as it's the fastest and most comfortable. A valid reason for any OC.
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They also have level 3 retention holsters that most people, especially a crack head would not be able to figure out before they had an ASP broke over their head.
 
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Chevusa said:
They also have level 3 retention holsters that most people, especially a crack head would not be able to figure out before they had an ASP broke over their head.
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Are retention holsters limited to use by cops?
 
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