Targetsports shorted my order

[spat]

Wrong, but go ahead and try. Again, you have no standing and are entitled to no relief. Have fun wasting your time and money. I won’t be around.

I never said they had standing, or were entitled to relief.

Just that you would have to hire a lawyer to show up to prove that.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

This is all off topic anyway guys

 

[Chevusa]

This wouldn't be a civil suit though.

Absolutely would. The state can, would, and does sue civilly to recover lost money. Not to give you a hard time but you are making statements based on your incorrect assumptions.

 

[spat]

A default judgement can only be made if there is evidence supporting a valid claim. Me suing you for having a terrible haircut does not award me $10000000 because you didn’t appear in court to answer to it. Is Murder She Wrote on after Matlock?

It can if I allege you blinded me and cut off an ear and you don't show up to dispute that.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Absolutely would. The state can, would, and does sue civilly to recover lost money. Not to give you a hard time but you are making statements based on your incorrect assumptions.

It would be a violation of the safe act which would be a criminal case and not civil.

 

[Vapor]

The news articles I shared on the last page would indicate...that sellers are actually in violation. Unless somehow has a copy of the moratorium, it seems like a gray area.

Its okay. I don't want to seem like a boot licker, yet I plan to leave NYS someday. I won't take on legal issues with a commie state.

 

[Chevusa]

It can if I allege you blinded me and cut off an ear and you don't show up to dispute that.

An alleged assault would be investigated criminally. Even then I would not be required to answer my door or answer any questions. I don’t have to prove my innocence. The burden is on you. Once your scheme is easily foiled you would be on the wrong side of the law and be charged with filing a false instrument. I would then have a proper standing to civilly sue you for damages and would have supporting evidence of such. Your understanding of the legal system is much worse than I thought.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

An alleged assault would be investigated criminally. Even then I would not be required to answer my door or answer any questions. I don’t have to prove my innocence. The burden is on you. Once your scheme is easily foiled you would be on the wrong side of the law and be charged with filing a false instrument. I would then have a proper standing to civilly sue you for damages and would have supporting evidence of such. Your understanding of the legal system is much worse than I thought.

Yes. But if you refused to show up to defend yourself and your accusers put together a compelling case, it wouldn't be good for you and you'd still end up in court one way or another.

 

[Chevusa]

It would be a violation of the safe act which would be a criminal case and not civil.

It would be if it were actually law. And I would be 9 ft tall if I were 9 ft tall. The governor suspended that law years ago. It is not in force. Do a quick search and find multiple sources of such.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It would be if it were actually law. And I would be 9 ft tall if I were 9 ft tall. The governor suspended that law years ago. It is not in force. Do a quick search and find multiple sources of such.

I know this. I already posted as such. I was talking about if. Do a quick google search of what happens if you are sued and you don't show up to court.

 

[Chevusa]

Yes. But if you refused to show up to defend yourself and your accusers put together a compelling case, it wouldn't be good for you and you'd still end up in court one way or another.

Not gonna sit here and play the “what if” or “but, but, but” game with ya all night. You are grasping at straws

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Not gonna sit here and play the “what if” or “but, but, but” game with ya all night. You are grasping at straws

Sounds good to me. Really don't wanna read your bullshit either guy.

 

[Chevusa]

Sounds good to me. Really don't wanna read your bullshit either guy.

Says the guy who knows less about the court than Judge Judy.

 

[Chevusa]

I know this. I already posted as such. I was talking about if. Do a quick google search of what happens if you are sued and you don't show up to court.

I’m not legally obligated to appear to entertain you. You like completely ridiculous made up examples so let’s do it. I sue you for $10000000000000000000000 because you bought the same pair of sneakers I was planning to get. I pay the server $17 and a snickers bar not to serve you the papers. You have no knowledge of the case and therefore do not appear. According to your far fetched theory and limited understanding of the legal system consisting of 5 minute google searches, I am awarded the money and you are out of luck. If it were so, why isn’t everyone doing it? Let’s get serious here. No more movies before bed for you. And wash your hands.

 

[spat]

Says the guy who knows less about the court than Judge Judy.

Look, I posted several links to articles about *thousands* of frivolous lawsuits.

If you want to pretend they don't exist, or that you can just ignore them if you happen to be a victim you're free to do that.

Me, if I'm served notice, I'm getting a lawyer, no matter how "BS" the lawsuit is.

I doubt you would find *any* lawyer who's advice would just be "just ignore it, it'll go away".

 

[Chevusa]

Look, I posted several links to articles about *thousands* of frivolous lawsuits.

If you want to pretend they don't exist, or that you can just ignore them if you happen to be a victim you're free to do that.

Me, if I'm served notice, I'm getting a lawyer, no matter how "BS" the lawsuit is.

I doubt you would find *any* lawyer who's advice would just be "just ignore it, it'll go away".

Didn’t say they didn’t exist. Doesn’t mean there is an automatic judgement as has been implied. If you go in with nonsense your case can be dismissed with no action required by me. You can also be financially and in some cases criminally responsible for your fraudulent actions and claims.

 

[spat]

I’m not legally obligated to appear to entertain you. You like completely ridiculous made up examples so let’s do it. I sue you for $10000000000000000000000 because you bought the same pair of sneakers I was planning to get. I pay the server $17 and a snickers bar not to serve you the papers. You have no knowledge of the case and therefore do not appear. According to your far fetched theory and limited understanding of the legal system consisting of 5 minute google searches, I am awarded the money and you are out of luck. If it were so, why isn’t everyone doing it? Let’s get serious here. No more movies before bed for you. And wash your hands.

I file a bogus mechanics lein on your car for work that was never done. Then sue to take possession.

You ignore it and now it's my car.

Sure, I will have violated the law and could go to jail, but *you have to show up in court to prove it*.

That's the point you seem to miss.

 

[spat]

Didn’t say they didn’t exist. Doesn’t mean there is an automatic judgement as has been implied. If you go in with nonsense your case can be dismissed with no action required by me. You can also be financially and in some cases criminally responsible for your fraudulent actions and claims.

Sure, *some* cases can be dismissed like you suggest, but just because the case has no *actual* legal merit doesn't mean it's *automatically* dismissed.

I could certainly craft a case that doesn't have merit, but wouldn't automatically get thrown out.

There are people who make a lot of money filing bogus cases just because companies will settle for a few grand because it's cheaper than winning the case. You position is apparently that these people don't exist despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

[Chevusa]

I file a bogus mechanics lein on your car for work that was never done. Then sue to take possession.

You ignore it and now it's my car.

Sure, I will have violated the law and could go to jail, but *you have to show up in court to prove it*.

That's the point you seem to miss.

You need to prove your claim. I don’t have to prove my innocence. If it were so simple there would be mechanics all over town with Maserati’s. Also, just because you have a lien (say it’s real) doesn’t mean you hold the title or can take possession of said vehicle. NY is a title holding state. The owner keeps the title and it is in their name (leases excluded).

 

[Chevusa]

Sure, *some* cases can be dismissed like you suggest, but just because the case has no *actual* legal merit doesn't mean it's *automatically* dismissed.

I could certainly craft a case that doesn't have merit, but wouldn't automatically get thrown out.

There are people who make a lot of money filing bogus cases just because companies will settle for a few grand because it's cheaper than winning the case. You position is apparently that these people don't exist despite all evidence to the contrary.

Knock yourself out. IF you are able to obtain a judgement against me I still don’t have to pay you. There is no legal requirement.

 

[spat]

You need to prove your claim. I don’t have to prove my innocence. If it were so simple there would be mechanics all over town with Maserati’s. Also, just because you have a lien (say it’s real) doesn’t mean you hold the title or can take possession of said vehicle. NY is a title holding state. The owner keeps the title and it is in their name (leases excluded).

Look, you are claiming that people can't criminally abuse the system despite the plain evidence that has been presented that it's a rampant problem.

I'm not sure what else to say besides "you're wrong" at this point.

Paper Terrorism: Sovereign Citizens File False Liens as Revenge Against Public Officials

Law enforcement agencies nationwide are investigating a fast rising number of “paper terrorism” cases targeting government leaders, the News4 I-Team learned.

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[spat]

Knock yourself out. IF you are able to obtain a judgement against me I still don’t have to pay you. There is no legal requirement.

I never said you'd end up having to pay me. Just that you'd end up getting dragged into court at great personal expense.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I’m not legally obligated to appear to entertain you. You like completely ridiculous made up examples so let’s do it. I sue you for $10000000000000000000000 because you bought the same pair of sneakers I was planning to get. I pay the server $17 and a snickers bar not to serve you the papers. You have no knowledge of the case and therefore do not appear. According to your far fetched theory and limited understanding of the legal system consisting of 5 minute google searches, I am awarded the money and you are out of luck. If it were so, why isn’t everyone doing it? Let’s get serious here. No more movies before bed for you. And wash your hands.

Stop it. You are the one making up ridiculous examples of lawsuits. I'm just talking about not showing up to court as a defendant. Bottom line, for the last time, if you get sued and are properly served papers and don't show up to court there are repercussions, usually it's a default judgment against you, which can be reversed but you'd have to file for that and end up in court anyway. It doesn't just go away. A simple internet search reveals this as consensus. Here one such result: What Happens If You Do Not Respond to a Civil Summons? and another: https://www.sapling.com/7767474/happens-come-court-civil-claim

 

[Chevusa]

Look, you are claiming that people can't criminally abuse the system despite the plain evidence that has been presented that it's a rampant problem.

I'm not sure what else to say besides "you're wrong" at this point.

Paper Terrorism: Sovereign Citizens File False Liens as Revenge Against Public Officials

Law enforcement agencies nationwide are investigating a fast rising number of “paper terrorism” cases targeting government leaders, the News4 I-Team learned.

www.nbcwashington.com

Sure you can try to abuse the system but I wouldn’t be worried about it. You are infinitely more likely to step on your own dick than obtain a judgement against me, and even if you did I wouldn’t have to pay up. Ever hear of OJ Simpson? How’s his payment doing?

 

[spat]

Sure you can try to abuse the system but I wouldn’t be worried about it. You are infinitely more likely to step on your own dick than obtain a judgement against me, and even if you did I wouldn’t have to pay up. Ever hear of OJ Simpson? How’s his payment doing?

No idea about his payment, but I know his lawyers got rich.

That's the point.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Here is another source: What are the consequences if I fail to appear in court?
It's not letting me copy the text, but it's right in the first paragraph.

 

[Chevusa]

No idea about his payment, but I know his lawyers got rich.

That's the point.

The judgement against him was millions. He hasn’t paid a dime and isn’t required to. His lawyers got rich in his criminal case. You are mixing apples and mushrooms.

 

[Chevusa]

Stop it. You are the one making up ridiculous examples of lawsuits. I'm just talking about not showing up to court as a defendant. Bottom line, for the last time, if you get sued and are properly served papers and don't show up to court there are repercussions, usually it's a default judgment against you, which can be reversed but you'd have to file for that and end up in court anyway. It doesn't just go away. A simple internet search reveals this as consensus. Here one such result: What Happens If You Do Not Respond to a Civil Summons? and another: https://www.sapling.com/7767474/happens-come-court-civil-claim

You are posting legal information from a website based in California. Also, they are assuming a valid lawsuit and not a nut job making up nonsense.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

You are posting legal information from a website based in California. Also, they are assuming a valid lawsuit and not a nut job making up nonsense.

Why don't you post some sources to back up your claim then?

 

[Chevusa]

Why don't you post some sources to back up your claim then?

I’m not making the claims. I am disputing yours with facts. You are free to educate yourself if you wish.