HUZZAH ! President Trump is building our WALL !

[Chevusa]

4473...hmm...let's see here...is that the form that the SC said was OK, and, by your logic, is therfore a good idea?

It is what it is cupcake. You’re not going to change the world sitting at your computer crying on the internet. The boarders aren’t sealed. You can leave at any time for a better place. The perfect utopia only exists in your mind however. “I shouldn’t have to follow any laws or pay any taxes because I don’t want to!” *stomps feet, screams at sky* For someone with such big ideas you’d think you would go out into the world to try and effect change instead of hiding behind a computer screen and living in an Internet forum. Nah. Sounds like a lot of work. Fuck it. *grabs snack from fridge, reloads website*

 

[Darth]

It is what it is cupcake. You’re not going to change the world sitting at your computer crying on the internet. The boarders aren’t sealed. You can leave at any time for a better place. The perfect utopia only exists in your mind however. “I shouldn’t have to follow any laws or pay any taxes because I don’t want to!” *stomps feet, screams at sky* For someone with such big ideas you’d think you would go out into the world to try and effect change instead of hiding behind a computer screen and living in an Internet forum. Nah. Sounds like a lot of work. Fuck it. *grabs snack from fridge, reloads website*

Another option you missed is to spread information on why it's a waste of money using the wonderful information superhighway. I do the same on my YouTube channel.

You sound like an NRA apologist too with the "what have YOU done hmmmmmm!?" tantrum.

The answer is a lot more than you.

 

[Darth]

100% agree.
The only law we need is that illegals get ZERO help with medical, food or housing.
Then we would not need the wall.
We would still get the ones like we have in WNY, the heroin dealers who work for the cartels.
This is a group of illegals nobody seems to talk about.
Usually young men sent here in the thousands by the cartels for one reason only, to sell drugs.
They have no inclination to work or collect benefits.....they would still be a problem.
Our local police chief says there are approximately 200 of these guys in Jamestown NY alone.
Jamestown has a population of 30,000 people. Imagine how many there are in larger cities.
They dont care about benifits, they stay off the radar.

And again, a far better option exists. End the war on drugs. Tons saved, none spent. Win win.

 

[Chevusa]

Another option you missed is to spread information on why it's a waste of money using the wonderful information superhighway. I do the same on my YouTube channel.

You sound like an NRA apologist too with the "what have YOU done hmmmmmm!?" tantrum.

The answer is a lot more than you.

I'm not an NRA member, and in your words, I'm gonna need a citation showing what you've done and the measured effects, if any, that it's had. I'm not the one crying over laws passed per the constitutional processes. The Founders placed those abilities into the constitution therefore they are constitutional. Here's a shocker, the founders even placed proper processes in place to remove amendments. As long as their process is followed it would actually be constitutional to remove your 2A (the only amendment you seem to agree with because it suits you. Just like the stimulus check is acceptable waste because you cashed yours). Maybe if you didn't go off the deep end with your extreme sovereign citizen talking points more people would get on board with you. Your blanket, foot stompin' "no taxes, no laws, I dont agree with" stance just makes reasonable people roll their eyes and write you off. This is a constitutional republic and a modern civil society. As I said, if you don't like it you are free to leave. Take Rosie with ya.

 

[Darth]

I'm not an NRA member, and in your words, I'm gonna need a citation showing what you've done and the measured effects, if any, that it's had.

Sure. Compare the pre SAFE attitude on NY Firearms to the attitude towards the NRA now on NYGF.

Easy one.

I'm not the one crying over laws passed per the constitutional processes.

Bullshit. And you should be, unless you agree with SAFE.

The Founders placed those abilities into the constitution therefore they are constitutional.

Which abilities?

Here's a shocker, the founders even placed proper processes in place to remove amendments. As long as their process is followed it would actually be constitutional to remove your 2A (the only amendment you seem to agree with because it suits you. Just like the stimulus check is acceptable waste because you cashed yours).

Cool. Now you provide even a single shred of evidence of this outlandish lie and we'll talk.

Maybe if you didn't go off the deep end with your extreme sovereign citizen talking points more people would get on board with you. Your blanket, foot stompin' "no taxes, no laws, I dont agree with" stance just makes reasonable people roll their eyes and write you off. This is a constitutional republic and a modern civil society. As I said, if you don't like it you are free to leave. Take Rosie with ya.

Well, we tried the "compromise and just have a little more government in your life and you'll be better" method and that didn't work. So well now do this.

And hell, you didn't even right me off, so pipe down with that nonsense. Albeit you did say a reasonable person, which you clearly are not, so you might have me there.

You are free to leave as well. If you hate freedom so much, by all means, check out of the "land of the free."

 

[Chevusa]

Which abilities?


Cool. Now you provide even a single shred of evidence of this outlandish lie and we'll talk.


You are free to leave as well. If you hate freedom so much, by all means, check out of the "land of the free."

Oops! You forgot - not only is the process in place - but it's been done before! TWICE! Ever hear of the 18th and 21st amendments? Fail.

I'm not the one bitching about everything and spreading "no taxes, no laws, no government" sovereign citizen nonsense.

 

[Darth]

What does it take to repeal a constitutional amendment? | Constitution Center

A current public debate started by a retired Supreme Court Justice has people talking about possibly repealing one of the Constitution’s original 10 amendments. In reality, the odds of such an act happening are extremely long.

constitutioncenter.org

Oops! You forgot - not only is the process in place - but it's been done before! TWICE! Ever hear of the 18th and 21st amendments? Fail.

I think the the reason I may have for not being able to keep up is because of these insane strawmen you keep tossing out.

Who sad a single word about repealing constitutional amendments?

Fail.

I'm not the one bitching about everything and spreading "no taxes, no laws, no government" sovereign citizen nonsense.

That makes 2 of us.

But I get it, your position is indefensible on it's own, why not create a strawman? At least it gives you something to do.

 

[Chevusa]

I think the the reason I may have for not being able to keep up is because of these insane strawmen you keep tossing out.

Who sad a single word about repealing constitutional amendments?

Fail.


That makes 2 of us.

But I get it, your position is indefensible on it's own, why not create a strawman? At least it gives you something to do.

You did. you claimed changing the constitution was an "outright lie" and demanded proof. Proof of such has been cited.

 

[Darth]

You did. you claimed changing the constitution was an "outright lie" and demanded proof. Proof of such has been cited.

Now read and comprehend this time.

(the only amendment you seem to agree with because it suits you. Just like the stimulus check is acceptable waste because you cashed yours).

I even removed all those distracting other words for you.

 

[Chevusa]

Now read and comprehend this time.



I even removed all those distracting other words for you.

No time for playing games. Im working. Now return that wasteful money you blew.

 

[Darth]

No time for playing games. Im working. Now return that wasteful money you blew.

Oh don't worry, I will. The government will take it to pay for stupid shit like the wall.

 

[Chevusa]

Oh don't worry, I will. The government will take it to pay for stupid shit like the wall.

Good. That's the exact job we hired him for.

 

[Darth]

Good. That's the exact job we hired him for.

Not even the people that voted for him can say that, so we'll dismiss that.

 

[Chevusa]

Not even the people that voted for him can say that, so we'll dismiss that.

Citation needed. You asked all of the people that voted? I find that highly unlikely. I'll wait to see the proof. Or was this one of those CNN style polls that asked 17 of their own viewers? Either way, I'm gonna need proof.

 

[Darth]

Citation needed. You asked all of the people that voted? I find that highly unlikely. I'll wait to see the proof. Or was this one of those CNN style polls that asked 17 of their own viewers? Either way, I'm gonna need proof.

Unfortunately for you, you are the one making the claim, and the burden of proof lies squarely on you.

 

[Chevusa]

Unfortunately for you, you are the one making the claim, and the burden of proof lies squarely on you.

The proof is the wall was the biggest promise he ran on, and he then won the election by a mile 304-227. Seems like his voters wanted it to me. The data on that point is bulletproof.

 

[Darth]

The proof is the wall was the biggest promise he ran on, and he then won the election by a mile 304-227. Seems like his voters wanted it to me. The data on that point is bulletproof.

What it seems like to you is irrelevant.

You say they voted for him to build the wall, I say it was anybody but Hillary.

 

[BDinPutnam]

The proof is the wall was the biggest promise he ran on, and he then won the election by a mile 304-227. Seems like his voters wanted it to me. The data on that point is bulletproof.

82,000 votes. Not a mile.

 

[Chevusa]

82,000 votes. Not a mile.

That's not how our elections work. And how many of those were illegal votes? The true tally was 304-227.

 

[Darth]

Here we go again.

 

[Chevusa]

What it seems like to you is irrelevant.

You say they voted for him to build the wall, I say it was anybody but Hillary.

#1 campaign promise. You're prob right, it's not likely anyone voted for someone based on their #1 campaign reason Your claim was "even the people that voted for him" don't want the wall. "the people that voted for him" means ALL of the people. That is your claim. If you had said "some of the people" you would infer that maybe some do and some dont. By using the wording you did you imply all. Unless you just made a basic writing comprehension mistake.

 

[Chevusa]

Here we go again.

when some need to bring up things that dont determine the person elected, they need to be corrected.

 

[BDinPutnam]

That's not how our elections work. And how many of those were illegal votes? The true tally was 304-227.

Don't strawman me, stick to Darth for that please. You keep suggesting that Trump won by a landslide because of the electoral numbers.

Nixon won by a landslide. Reagan won by a landslide. Trump won by 82,000 votes spread across three states. But keep drinking the kool aid- I hear Biden is currently polling well above Trump in those three states.

 

[Marine Cpl]

He won. Plain and simple. Doesn’t matter if it were just by one vote. He won. That’s how it works.

If you were running and your #1 campaign promise was to get rid of the NFA and the BATF and you won by one vote, then it’s time to fulfill that promise. It doesn’t matter that X amount of people didn’t vote for you. You won.

 

[Chevusa]

Don't strawman me, stick to Darth for that please. You keep suggesting that Trump won by a landslide because of the electoral numbers.

Nixon won by a landslide. Reagan won by a landslide. Trump won by 82,000 votes spread across three states. But keep drinking the kool aid- I hear Biden is currently polling well above Trump in those three states.

Are you screaming at the sky right now? Who did the poll you are referring to? Need citations. Those polls worked out great last time around didn't they? LOL Trump IS your President....

 

[Criticalt]

And again, a far better option exists. End the war on drugs. Tons saved, none spent. Win win.

Except for the tens of millions of dollars spent to rehab all the junkies who want to get off drugs.
And the money to fund all the ailments junkies come down with.
Absesses, vein collapse, blindness, lowered immune system, mental illness, brain damage, weak bones, skin lesions, lung disease, heart failure, overdose.
Then to bury all the broke junkies when they overdose.
Our country will never just let these people rot away.....which would be a great choice.

 

[Darth]

Except for the tens of millions of dollars spent to rehab all the junkies who want to get off drugs.
And the money to fund all the ailments junkies come down with.
Absesses, vein collapse, blindness, lowered immune system, mental illness, brain damage, weak bones, skin lesions, lung disease, heart failure, overdose.
Then to bury all the broke junkies when they overdose.
Our country will never just let these people rot away.....which would be a great choice.

Then fix that problem first.

Stop defending bad policy with bad policy.

 

[Darth]

#1 campaign promise. You're prob right, it's not likely anyone voted for someone based on their #1 campaign reason Your claim was "even the people that voted for him" don't want the wall. "the people that voted for him" means ALL of the people. That is your claim. If you had said "some of the people" you would infer that maybe some do and some dont. By using the wording you did you imply all. Unless you just made a basic writing comprehension mistake.

So you’re wrong on that point. At least you finally admit it.

 

[Criticalt]

Then fix that problem first.

Stop defending bad policy with bad policy.

That will never happen.
Most people arent like you and I.
Most people have compassion and empathy.

 

[Darth]

That will never happen.
Most people arent like you and I.
Most people have compassion and empathy.

Then I can’t in good conscious support this.

I have plenty of compassion and empathy for those that I see fit.

I.

Me.

Its nobody else’s place to tell me how to spend my money.