Schumer: we will sue POTUS if he uses EO to help Americans

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thats right, Schmucky Schumer is responding to Trump’s threat to use a sweeping executive order to deal out relief to victims of this ongoing pandemic lockdown with a threat of his own: “Schumer warns that if the President goes ahead with broader executive orders, they will be “litigated””
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Yep. Schumer and Pelosi say it’s their way or the highway when it comes to relief. Nobody gets relief unless they say so. NOBODY.
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Schumer threatens to SUE to stop Trump from using EO to give Americans RELIEF

Schmucky Schumer is responding to Trump’s threat to use a sweeping executive order to deal out relief to victims of this ongoing pandemic lockdown with a threat of his own: “Schumer war…
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BDinPutnam said:
Some of the shit he was talking about (extending payroll tax cut e.g.) is clearly not within the rubric of the Executive branch.
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It shouldn't be, but the Democrats have set decades of precedent that say things like that *are*.

If WE followed precedent we could sue the Trump administration if they allowed them to expire (see DACA).

The other side stopped playing by the official rules a long time ago. It's time we started beating them at their own game.
 
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spat said:
It shouldn't be, but the Democrats have set decades of precedent that say things like that *are*.

If WE followed precedent we could sue the Trump administration if they allowed them to expire (see DACA).

The other side stopped playing by the official rules a long time ago. It's time we started beating them at their own game.
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The EOs here were probably started as political theater and to put some pressure on the stalled process.

Apparently some draft EOs have been sent to the Oval Office for consideration that redirect unspent approved CV19 funds as the funding basis for much if not all the draft EOs. Certainly less reaching than BHO Daca BS.

I'm not sure I'll bother making popcorn to watch the show.
 
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The demturd's know our country is hurting but they'll continue playing there game's because it's what they have always done especially now since they can't find anything else to throw at Present Trump they've sold their souls to the devil and beyond prior to Trump being elected into office they don't give a rat's ass what happens to the American people just what they can milk and steal from them at all cost :violin:
 
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If you are referring to the federal deficit ... paying that back just isn't going to happen. It's too far down the drain to save it. I've paid into social security for far too long now for me to want to see it fail. BUT ... I'm not optimistic that it will be available when I want to start drawing on it.

The tax relief is for people who need it now. Schumer and the D's are playing politics with other peoples lives and financial well being at stake.
 
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This is only a temporary suspension of the collection of payroll taxes. Unless Trump is reelected and it gets passed by Congress, we'll still be on the hook for all of the taxes April 15.
 
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whatwasithinking said:
If you are referring to the federal deficit ... paying that back just isn't going to happen. It's too far down the drain to save it. I've paid into social security for far too long now for me to want to see it fail. BUT ... I'm not optimistic that it will be available when I want to start drawing on it.

The tax relief is for people who need it now. Schumer and the D's are playing politics with other peoples lives and financial well being at stake.
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It REALLY won't be available if they stop pulling in money.

But in fact that won't happen. It will go nowhere. All that would happen if the democrats are unsuccessful suing trump (I hope they trash him in the courts over this) is your taxes will eventually skyrocket.

People who "need it now" are already employed. This doesn't even help unemployed people. So you've got a man and wife each making $100k and now they pay no payroll tax? They were doing okay.

At this rate i don't know why we pay any taxes. Let's just have the federal reserve cover 100% of tax receipts.
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This is only a temporary suspension of the collection of payroll taxes. Unless Trump is reelected and it gets passed by Congress, we'll still be on the hook for all of the taxes April 15.
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Good.

The deficit is totally fucking insane already. We need to deal with the economy intelligently, not with a shotgun approach. People who are still employed are the last people who need help right now.
 
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Blimey said:
At this rate i don't know why we pay any taxes. Let's just have the federal reserve cover 100% of tax receipts.
Good.

The deficit is totally fucking insane already. We need to deal with the economy intelligently, not with a shotgun approach. People who are still employed are the last people who need help right now.
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That's pretty much the game now ... the US Dollar is backed by absolutely NOTHING! It's not tied to gold, silver or anything of value. Ssooo the Federal Reserve creates money out of thin air (also known as QE), while the Treasury controls the money supply in circulation.
 
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It’s a political trap set by Trump.

The democrats sue to block it, what does it say about them. They sued to cut off unemployment benefits?

Win or lose in court, Trump puts the democrats in a corner.

Plus with appeals, he might be able to drag it out until November
 
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Truebeliever said:
It’s a political trap set by Trump.

The democrats sue to block it, what does it say about them. They sued to cut off unemployment benefits?

Win or lose in court, Trump puts the democrats in a corner.

Plus with appeals, he might be able to drag it out until November
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OH, I agree it's a trap. One he's probably going into head first. If they sue and win it doesn't show them as not helping the economy--it shows him as overstepping his power, and doing so incompetently.

The dems and repubs were already talking about legislation. Trump got impatient.

How many people here decried Obama and his executive orders such as DACA? And now we're going to just sit and cheer while the president enacts one of the biggest tax cuts ever because he wants to? Not me.

Next time a democratic president starts signing whatever the hell he wants because he's had a few beer you better not say a word.

Emperor Cuomo's measly little orders are nothing compared to this.
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Desperate rules for desperate times ....
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Message of necessity?
 
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spat said:
Depends on where the money comes from.

There are plenty of places in the Federal budget whose definition could be stretched to include something like this.
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The money was already appointed. There is $2B unused.
 
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This will be a popular thing to do. Prevent Americans from getting the money they need. Only an extreme case of TDS would provoke this. I’m sure it will go over well with voters.
 
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Blimey said:
OH, I agree it's a trap. One he's probably going into head first. If they sue and win it doesn't show them as not helping the economy--it shows him as overstepping his power, and doing so incompetently.

The dems and repubs were already talking about legislation. Trump got impatient.

How many people here decried Obama and his executive orders such as DACA? And now we're going to just sit and cheer while the president enacts one of the biggest tax cuts ever because he wants to? Not me.

Next time a democratic president starts signing whatever the hell he wants because he's had a few beer you better not say a word.

Emperor Cuomo's measly little orders are nothing compared to this.
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They were nowhere close to a deal. The Dems insisted on cash for illegals and a ton of other things that had nothing to do with the China Virus. They did not make a good faith effort.
 
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Chevusa said:
They were nowhere close to a deal. The Dems insisted on cash for illegals and a ton of other things that had nothing to do with the China Virus. They did not make a good faith effort.
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That really doesn't matter, though. Lack of good faith is going into the negotiations and then if they don't go your way just saying fuck it I'm doing it live, and then signing whatever you like. I promise we'd all be enraged if Obama had done this.

 
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