Austria VS USA Glock's

[Chevusa]

Wondering if anyone has any experiences with the differences between the two. I just bought a USA made Glock 21 Gen 4 and had slight reservations about it. My reasoning is that out of my 5 current Glock's, 4 are Austrian made and I have never had the slightest issue or hiccup with them at all. Not even close. Nothing. Nada. 100% prefect function each and every time. I've had a few failure to fire with cheap range ammo but nothing to attribute to the gun.

My 5th Glock is a USA made 43. I had quite some trouble with it not wanting to feed hollow point ammo in 124gr. I finally got it to function pretty well with 147gr. Once in a while when chambering a round it will get caught up however whether I hit the slide release or whether I slingshot the slide back by hand and release.

From what I've read, Glock says the USA made models are exactly the same made with the same parts and by the same machines that are programmed by the same people that set up the machines in Austria.

I'm wondering what your real world experiences are, if any. Would you feel just as good about a USA made Glock as you would an Austrian made one?

I'll hang up and listen....

 

[GTN]

My 43 is Austria made. Same problem till I used 147gr of any kind of ammo

 

[Chevusa]

My 43 is Austria made. Same problem till I used 147gr of any kind of ammo

I wonder if my 43X would have trouble with 124gr? It never has trouble manually chambering a round though.

Also I know the 43 has a slightly redesigned mag and I confirmed I have the newer version but still had the issue.

 

[Chevusa]

This made me feel better

 

[soylentBlue]

Did you know that Glock also sells horse semen?

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[togmaster]

Did you know that Glock also sells horse semen?

GLOCK’s Dream Boy available for fresh and frozen semen

GLOCK Stallions

www.ghpc.at

How's it taste?

 

[Elwood]

Of my 3, 2 are Austrian guns, 1 is US made. No difference in parts or production that I can tell. Only ever had 1 fail to feed out of thousands of rounds, magazine related. Although the “new” finish on my gen 4 21 slide (made in Austria) is weraring pretty quickly from daily open carry going in and out of the holster. I wish they would go back to the old school indestructible finish. My gen 4 23 (US made) has the old finish type and still looks brand new and that’s the one I’ve had the longest

 

[Podmonkey]

What determines which Glocks are made where? Is it by model? My 19 is Austrian.

 

[Elwood]

What determines which Glocks are made where? Is it by model? My 19 is Austrian.

I can be either country, the roll marks just denotes what country the part was produced. Imported parts marked Austrian often are assembled in Georgia.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Question. Does 922r compliance come into play with pistols? I know it does when you change a part in long guns. I never considered that it may or may not with an Austrian made Glock.

 

[Podmonkey]

Question. Does 922r compliance come into play with pistols? I know it does when you change a part in long guns. I never considered that it may or may not with an Austrian made Glock.

Has anyone ever run afoul of a 923r violation? The legal onus to prove such violations is on the prosecutor and how would anyone know in the first place?

 

[Criticalt]

Im such a moron that I just had to look at my G20 that ive had for a year......its of Austrian decent.
Glad I could help, im here all day.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Question. Does 922r compliance come into play with pistols? I know it does when you change a part in long guns. I never considered that it may or may not with an Austrian made Glock.

922r only applies to imported semi auto rifles and shotguns "which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3)"

 

[GOPerfect]

I have one US made and I have one Austria made. I don't like either of them.

 

[Bob]

I have pulled apart and looked at Austrian-built Glocks and US-built Glocks and compared them. I have found no discernible differences.

This topic has been discussed every time I have taken the Glock armorer course. The statement from the instructor is that the only differences between a Glock built is Austria and a Glock built in the US is that one is built in Austria and one is built in the US.

 

[Chevusa]

In that video the guy says the machines are exactly the same and they actually had to wire the US factory to run European current to power them.

 

[Podmonkey]

I have one US made and I have one Austria made. I don't like either of them.

What models and how much might you want for them? I love my Glock.

 

[GOPerfect]

What models and how much might you want for them? I love my Glock.

Not selling. Sorry. Duty gun and a baby. The little one stays in my truck.

 

[Podmonkey]

Not selling. Sorry. Duty gun and a baby. The little one stays in my truck.

I find it interesting that after decades of shunning Glocks I have now become such a big fan having finally given them a chance.
I like any gun that I can hit my targets with. Its the gun with which Ben taught me how to reach out to 50 yards with.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I find it interesting that after decades of shunning Glocks I have now become such a big fan having finally given them a chance.
I like any gun that I can hit my targets with. Its the gun with which Ben taught me how to reach out to 50 yards with.

They are just utilitarian tools that work and honestly out of the box work well, no frills work. And each person can get them to work better for their individual self with the amazing aftermarket support.

Honestly the only thing I've changed on my carry gun (gen 5 G34) is

C&H Precision Weapons V4 plate in place of the garbage OEM MOS adapter plate

Dawson Precisions MOS height sights

13lb recoil spring and a guide rod to actually use the 13lb recoil spring.

Tau Dev Group "SCD" replaced the OEM backplate.

 

[Chevusa]

I like to leave my Glock's stock. It's always the people changing out parts that have the problems. Then they say their Glock doesn't work. Well, they don't have a Glock anymore. They have whatever mismatched contraption they tried to piece together. I even like to stick with Glock factory night sights. For me they are serious defense guns. If they were just range toys I'd probably tinker with springs and triggers and stuff.

 

[GOPerfect]

In regards to my dislike in these ugly assed guns...

One reason I do not like them is due to the looks. I think it is an ugly gun. I know, small point, but...

I do not like the way if feels in my hand. Something about them feels off to me.

I hear all of the time that Glocks just work. Okay, all of my guns work. Nary an issue with any of them. Other guns of mine, look better and feel better to me. If it were not for work, I would own exactly, none.

 

[Chevusa]

In regards to my dislike in these ugly assed guns...

One reason I do not like them is due to the looks. I think it is an ugly gun. I know, small point, but...

I do not like the way if feels in my hand. Something about them feels off to me.

I hear all of the time that Glocks just work. Okay, all of my guns work. Nary an issue with any of them. Other guns of mine, look better and feel better to me. If it were not for work, I would own exactly, none.

You're wrong!

They are Perfection....

 

[Blimey]

Only the Austrian based 7 will make it through metal detectors without going off.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Did you know that Glock also sells horse semen?

GLOCK’s Dream Boy available for fresh and frozen semen

GLOCK Stallions

www.ghpc.at

bigger question that your gun american or austrian made.....with this thread bigger question now is fresh or frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!! is the frozen from concentrate???

 

[Edwardteach72]

Only the Austrian based 7 will make it through metal detectors without going off.

German

 

[Blimey]

bigger question that your gun american or austrian made.....with this thread bigger question now is fresh or frozen!!!!!!!!!!!!! is the frozen from concentrate???

It is, but I can assure you its creamy taste is hardly discernible from the freshly squeezed.

 

[Xae289]

Honestly, Glock's reliability comes from the design as much as anything. The mechanisms are simple, the parts are few and simple, and the tolerances are generous without being sloppy. Unless the Georgia plant were really a shitshow, it would be hard to consistently make unreliable ones.

That said, I'll say about Glock what I'll say about any reputable manufacturer: if it doesn't work as advertised, send it back to them until it does. All of the big gun-makers will have a lemon squeek by their processes. The good ones will test fire the gun with one or two magazines of ammo before it leaves the factory, and it's probably just one type of ammo. Even then, I doubt most places fail a gun that hiccups once during the test fire. If you have a reliability issue, you should contact them, get a shipping label from them, send it to them directly, have them fix it and send it back straight to your front door, all for free unless you did something like mess with the internals.

 

[Chevusa]

I've heard that if you take your Glock to the Georgia factory they will rebuild your gun for you for free while you wait. They will go through it and replace all of the parts for you. Bring your old mags and they will replace them for you too. Not sure how old it's got to be. Here's one guys experience I found by just searching around.

well guys, it's totally true. as the only one out of all my countless friends who conceal carry glocks, those who are in law enforcement that carry glocks, & those who are just into simply owning & shooting glocks, i am the only one who i know who has personally carried my glock onto the glock usa factory in smyrna georgia & got his pistol COMPLETELY updated with new springs, keepers, pins, slide guides, sights, firing pin, trigger, etc, you name it, it got swapped out. all but the slide, barrel, & bottom. AND THEY EVEN THANKED ME FOR COMING IN. glock usa & glock usa customer service is the most top notch firearm maker & customer service department in the world. PERIOD! what other firearm maker in the world will do this for it's customers? NONE! i asked how often they do this for glock owners & their reply was, "all day long, sir".

 

[Xae289]

I've heard that if you take your Glock to the Georgia factory they will rebuild your gun for you for free while you wait. They will go through it and replace all of the parts for you. Bring your old mags and they will replace them for you too. Not sure how old it's got to be. Here's one guys experience I found by just searching around.

That's really cool of them and really above and beyond. Plenty of companies will get your gun like new for you, but it would cost you. Depending on the condition, I know a Kimber could be refreshed for under $200 for a full checkup that will automatically come with replacement of small parts. Once you start needing a new barrel, refinishing, etc, you could easily be in half the value of the gun to get it back to new.

Still, refinishing and rebuilding is one thing, but reliability issues are manufacturer defects and are unacceptable and ought to be fixed for free by any maker. My Ruger SP101 .22, for example, would get a lot of misfires. Like 1 every 2-4 cylinders. Someone else might have written it off as .22s just not being all that reliable. The fact is that the hammer was very sloppy with lateral play, so it wasn't striking centered at all, and to boot I was getting a lot of lead shavings spit back at my face because the cylinder wasn't lining up perfectly with the barrel. I called their customer service and sent it back. They fixed it and sent it back to me how it should have come out the factory. I would have sent it back again as many times as it took to get it fixed, replaced, or my money back. Gun companies know not every gun put out will be perfect, and that's fine. They also allow some extra degree of slop knowing that not everyone who doesn't get a perfectly functional gun will send it back and will accept some issues, and that's not fine.