The odds of a 2nd Amendment repeal attempt now that the country is dead

[ArmedCorgi]

Just as the title suggests. I don't mean to sound overly dramatic or in a panic. I know that even though one party controls the entire government it doesn't necessarily mean everything on their agenda will get accomplished. That said, gun control is at the very top of the dems list and the difference this time is that they seem emboldened and very eager to go whole hog without a care. They have control and all they need is one more mass shooting, which they could now blame on their new found terrorist group of patriots and Trump supporters. One more mass shooting and they could very likely get a lot of bad gun control through. An AWB like or worse than the safe act, universal background checks, online gun and ammo bans, magazine bans, taxes, registration, confiscation, Etc., Etc.. and of course the grand daddy of gun control, the repealing of the 2nd amendment itself. I know that if they did manage to get the repeal through congress, the states would more than likely NOT ratify it. The idea that it would make it even that far though is disturbing to me (and I'm sure most on here).

So, my prompt for discussion here is, what do you think is likely to happen? What is likely to pass? What do you think the reactions of states and/or the general population will be? If a repeal attempt does make it through congress and get to the states for ratification, what do you think would happen and what would the aftermath look like? Do you think after a repeal attempt you could see gun friendly states passing laws to protect the 2nd or no? Do you see any push back happening? I'm just curious what everyone is thinking.

 

[Jem45472]

I see an awb or registration definitely coming. Weather or not it sticks, I don't know.

I'm of the opinion lately to let them pass whatever they want. Only way out of it would be for gun friendly states and counties to become 2a sanctuaries. We're never going to be back where we were 30 years ago anyways.

 

[Celt]

I cant see a repeal of it happening, but they have and will continue to legislate it away by implementing bans, taxes, registration, etc...

 

[spat]

It will never be repealed. Just forgotten.

The closest we will come to a repeal will be a SCOTUS decision that basically says it only guarantees the states the right to have their own national guard.

At that point it will be completely dead. It's on life support as it is

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The closest we will come to a repeal will be a SCOTUS decision that basically says it only guarantees the states the right to have their own national guard.

But that would mean reversing their own rulings.

 

[Jmac00]

I think we all know what states to avoid. whatever a states regulations are now, will remain.

if you google mass shootings, almost with exception, the stats say Pres. Trump had more mass shooting than any President in history. I doubt that, but whatever.

I don't think there is any question that more gun control is on the way. It won't matter if there is another mass shooting or not. I think an *assault weapons* ban is coming too. The good news is, very few are going to turn there weapons in. Just like NY and Conn, compliance rate is going to be low. The only way "they" will get guns off the street is through attrition. One at a time, but that will take YEARS.

I also think that congress critters are well aware that there is a Mid-term election coming up. Most, like McConnell and the 10 RINO's that voted to impeach Pres. Trump know they are walking on eggshells.

MANY Republicans better be very careful how they vote, or it likely they will be replaced.

The question becomes, How much will Pelosi and schumer change election laws to favor a one party domination, much like Virginia did.

Like I said 6 months ago. at this pace, there will never be another conservative in the white house, ever again. and if Pelosi doesn't back off her impeachment quest, she will divide the country even further

 

[ArmedCorgi]

divide the country even further

I kinda think it needs to be and I wonder if massive gun control could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Not necessarily to the point of a hot civil war, but to the point where states themselves start questioning the federal government's legitimacy.

 

[CaseHardened]

I have yet to discover the words written into the 2A that discuss the elimination of our Civil Rights should criminals use firearms for evil purpsoes, up to and including Mass Murders.

 

[prambo]

MANY Republicans better be very careful how they vote, or it likely they will be replaced.

Neither Mrs. prambo nor myself will vote for anyone in the Republican party ever again. Full stop.

After the last election and the number of "Republicans" gleefully participating in the COVID scamdemic - like our shitbag mayor - they can kiss my ass.

 

[spat]

But that would mean reversing their own rulings.

Well, it would mean reversing the rulings of an earlier court.

Once enough leftists are appointed, they won't hesitate.

 

[Tisto]

I don't think that they have the balls to try a full on repeal., at least not at this point - but that may change in two years. Even they know that would be political suicide. They will though, without any hesitation attempt to pass any and every hair brained scheme that they can come up with.

Continue to stock the shelves, it's going to get a whole lot worse.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Even they know that would be political suicide

That's only true with fair elections.

 

[Tisto]

That's only true with fair elections.

Political suicide comes in many forms.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

What the Bill of Rights is about are the rights you are born with. If the 1st Amendment is done away with by this nation, the rights in the 1st amendment still exist, they are just denied by those in power. As is explained in boot camp lessons on the Bill of Rights, you only enjoy the rights you are willing to fight for.

The people in North Korea are born with the same rights listed in our Bill of Rights, the same inalienable rights, it's just that the government in North Korea denies those rights to its citizens.

There is a quotation out there from some hated judge about the 2nd Amendment being the emergency amendment, when politicians won't hold elections, the courts are corrupt or their orders are not enforced. I used to have it hanging on my office wall but lots of things were misplaced in the water leak and repair.

 

[dwa12479]

The 2A will never be repealed, it'll just be neutered to hell a little at a time over many years. It started in 1934....

 

[livingston]

The left will deny you the ability to own a gun as much and as fast as they can. They will try to disarm every American .. That is the goal .. always have been
Biden decries Trump mob: 'Don't call them protesters. They were domestic terrorists'

Biden decries Trump mob: 'Don't call them protesters. They were domestic terrorists'

President-elect denounces one of America’s ‘darkest days’ and condemns Trump for inciting violence that took place

www.theguardian.com

Only a little hop to where all trump supporters are terrorists. ... Thus no guns for you.. Look at how they crafted hate speech . If convicted of a hate speech crime ..No guns for you .. Folks who have defaced a BLM painting on a street ... Hate crime ... Just craft hundreds of laws where one can stub your toe and one is disarmed .

 

[phatfarmerbob]

Even nutnfancy is saying now, that their gonna confiscate.

 

[libertysnake]

I see an awb or registration definitely coming. Weather or not it sticks, I don't know.

I'm of the opinion lately to let them pass whatever they want. Only way out of it would be for gun friendly states and counties to become 2a sanctuaries. We're never going to be back where we were 30 years ago anyways.

Yeah I think it's time states took a hard stance on the out of control fed. As long as the fed allows sanctuaries of various types to exist, then that's the way forward.

If not, then the fed has to crack down on everything. Immigration, 2A, etc. Being selective makes them seem political -- which, they are, but they try to avoid.

 

[Saltwater60]

They won’t repeal it. Even their more moderate followers don’t want it.

 

[meketrefe]

Same as the chances of the union breaking apart if some states might want to pull out of it?

 

[Cooolone]

Not a chance ... Only the deranged illusionary pipe dreams of the koolaid drinking public!

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Same as the chances of the union breaking apart if some states might want to pull out of it?

I mean, it happened once already.

 

[CaseHardened]

A new Civil War ?

On one hand, in 1860 the North manufactured everything.

In 2021, the North manufactures NOTHING.

I'm betting the vast majority of the Military remain Patriots.

A truly organized effort could wipe out the traitorous Deep State overnight.

But I do not see that happening.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Gun rights, in my opinion, have truly emerged as the civil rights issue of our time. I was only a kid when the 94 awb was enacted but the AR15 has since exploded in popularity and the level of awareness both of the platform and of gun rights has also. The attitude and myth of hunting having something to do with the second amendment has mostly vanished. Back in 94, the concealed carry map was vastly different. There is now a trend of states passing permitless carry. There was no such thing as a 2A sanctuary anything. There were no states passing laws to nullify new federal gun laws (even if only symbolic). Though I keep hearing conflicting info of gun ownership being in decline, yet at the same time a new record of gun sales seems to happen each month and the number of applications for carry permits are skyrocketing. Things have definitely changed and I think in at least as many good ways as bad.

 

[spat]

The left will deny you the ability to own a gun as much and as fast as they can. They will try to disarm every American .. That is the goal .. always have been
Biden decries Trump mob: 'Don't call them protesters. They were domestic terrorists'

Biden decries Trump mob: 'Don't call them protesters. They were domestic terrorists'

President-elect denounces one of America’s ‘darkest days’ and condemns Trump for inciting violence that took place

www.theguardian.com

Only a little hop to where all trump supporters are terrorists. ... Thus no guns for you.. Look at how they crafted hate speech . If convicted of a hate speech crime ..No guns for you .. Folks who have defaced a BLM painting on a street ... Hate crime ... Just craft hundreds of laws where one can stub your toe and one is disarmed .

Look at their ridiculous DC (over) reaction.

They are *terrified* of what conservatives with guns will do to stop them.

Hell, AOC says she's afraid to be physically around conservatives *congressmen*.

 

[Grimscale]

Hell, AOC says she's afraid to be physically around conservatives *congressmen*.

Guess they shouldn't have opened that door, then.
After all, what's good for the goose is better for the pillow maker.

 

[FirstRifle]

Back to the OP's question.... the heck with repealing the 2A. It gets even worse .

Ami Horowitz was at Yale University. He says that "65% of everyone I spoke with signed my petition to get rid of the constitution of the United States of America." SMH

 

[gunpoliticsny]

So, my prompt for discussion here is, what do you think is likely to happen?

I suspect a lot less than what people think. Gun control is a huge stinker of an issue. It doesn't have a core constituency other leftist issues like abortion and the environment do.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I suspect a lot less than what people think. Gun control is a huge stinker of an issue. It doesn't have a core constituency other leftist issues like abortion and the environment do.

They sure as hell keep trying. I know things nationally aren't like they are in NY, even with dems in control now, but still, this feels different.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The election is over. Biden is sworn in.


Why is there still 30,000 troops in DC?

What are they protecting the politicians from, what are they planning, what are they worried over?


Hmm.....