libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Literally took the words out of my mouth. "This is the way." Fuck yeah. Tenth amendment, baby.
North Dakota plans to nullify Biden exec orders at the state level
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LS, I do not care what it is....
Knowledge is power. Always has been and always will be. The State elected officials, this State or any other need to only follow the Constitution.
Granted, it could come back to bite them a bit if they are willing to meet those consequences.
Good for them.
Knowledge is power. Always has been and always will be. The State elected officials, this State or any other need to only follow the Constitution.
Granted, it could come back to bite them a bit if they are willing to meet those consequences.
Good for them.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
This is why I do not believe in the feds taking so much in tax and returning it to the states via funding. This is how the fed consolidates power.
Why give it back when the states can collect it in the first place?
Take away the money and you take away the power of the feds, as well as the consequences of state run government.
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Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I mean, if States and cities can declare themselves "sanctuary" states and cities in violation of federal immigration law I don't see why the states shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose what executive orders they enforce. I mean already started down that path where laws at all levels are being selectively enforced and EOs aren't even laws.
HIghlander
.223 Rem
Federal can withhold any and or all Federal money for non compliance .
Didn't Trump try that, and lost the court battle?
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes. But only because Orange man bad.
Sooner or later the left is going to find itself damned by its own precedent. The harder they push the more catastrophic the fall will be. For all of us.
spat
.950 JDJ
It's extortion.
Plain and simple.
There is a word for each crime that describes most of what the feds do if it were private individuals doing it.
In this case that word is extortion.
spat
.950 JDJ
In principle the only people the president can even issue orders to are federal employees. All EOs are just telling them how to do their jobs.
He can't tell states or private citizens 6o do *anything*.
In reality, EO's tend to tell the federal employees to enforce extra legal BS on the rest of the country.
"You can't order me to do that !!"
"You're right, I can't. But I can order this alphabet agency to harass the shit out of you until you do"
Just like the covid lockdowns can't be enforced criminally because they violate the 1st amendment.
But they can just pull your business license if you don't enforce the lockdown for them.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
shouldn't need a business license to begin with .. ... where are the gang license's ... there a business
Paxal
.223 Rem
Totally agree! The states should all agree to unilaterally take over the administration and disbursement to the federal gov’t of all taxes. Further, the counties should take over all collections to the state. Isolate the Feds from the money and you cut them down to size very quickly.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
If all the red states had the balls to do this, I think the federal overreach we are used to seeing would be cut down a little bit. People tend to forget “a sovereign nation of many sovereign states” is the way it was supposed to be.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
We may see a return to that with the way the dem controlled federal government is going.
spat
.950 JDJ
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Even better.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
"If all the red states had the balls to do this, I think the federal overreach we are used to seeing would be cut down a little bit. People tend to forget “a sovereign nation of many sovereign states” is the way it was supposed to be. "
Well...couple bumps in the road on this path...first...Repubs have no balls...2nd...this would just initiate more democraptic congressional "power" to ruin the people involved. The dems do whatever they like..legal or not, and then are taken care of with the "judges" they appointed.
Well...couple bumps in the road on this path...first...Repubs have no balls...2nd...this would just initiate more democraptic congressional "power" to ruin the people involved. The dems do whatever they like..legal or not, and then are taken care of with the "judges" they appointed.
Paxal
.223 Rem
True, but, the states, working collectively, would have the power to blunt moves made by the Feds. Also, if they control the money flow to the federal gov’t, then, they have the power. If the dems or repubs in congress overreach, you hold up the money. In the end, money is power.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
The major fly in the ointment here is that in vast majority, Republicans have no balls, will not stand firm on principle, and are supremely concerned about offending people.
So, while it’s a nice thought, I don’t think anything meaningful will actually happen. Sort of like a lot of SAFE act resolutions.
spat
.950 JDJ
The feds will seize assets of the citizens of those states directly for tax money.
The big banks and other corporations will do the actual work.
There is little the state governments could do to stop them.
Also, the feds don't actually need tax money. They can print as much as they want.
They only reason they tax at all is to offset some of the money they print to keep inflation in check.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Take heed Red States!
I'm no seer or diviner, but I'd say we are running out of time.
Robin
I'm no seer or diviner, but I'd say we are running out of time.
Robin
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
When I move out of NY I always figured that I would move back to South Carolina.
It would be nice to live amongst my family members again.
But IDK... I have been checking out South Dakota recently and SD sounds like a winner.
It would be nice to live amongst my family members again.
But IDK... I have been checking out South Dakota recently and SD sounds like a winner.