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House Bill H.R. 127 2021 Gun Control (Multi-Merged threads)
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speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
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All of it is unconstitutional. Of course that does not matter.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
options:
move your firearms out of state
the government only knows what handguns I have, the government has no idea what long guns I own, and i aint telling them.
in 8 months, im outa here, so I really don't give a shit. I do feel bad for anyone stuck in NY but thats your decision, good luck.
I think moving out west is the best option, there are more gun free states west of the Mississippi. so thats where im headed
move your firearms out of state
the government only knows what handguns I have, the government has no idea what long guns I own, and i aint telling them.
in 8 months, im outa here, so I really don't give a shit. I do feel bad for anyone stuck in NY but thats your decision, good luck.
I think moving out west is the best option, there are more gun free states west of the Mississippi. so thats where im headed
I think this is a federal bill.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
DAMN, well that certainly sucks, I guess its just one more thing to ignore. or wait to see what states become 2A sanctuary states
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
aren't We already in compliance in NY-a-stan ? Plus this only affects law abiding citizens......Why not EXTREMELY harsh punishment for people carrying handguns in NY without a permit? I can just hear a conversation before a crime.."uh dear..don't forget to only load 10 rounds in the mag and when you get home,register your guns" REPLY...."no can do...out on probation for a previous felony"
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I hope all the gun owning assholes that voted for Biden are first in line to go along with his common sense reasonable plan.
This is my plan.
Hope some states decide to give the feds the middle finger and declare themselves sanctuaries. Those states immediately go to the top of my list.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Damn, some days it's 3 o'clock owb, others it's 4 o'clock iwb. Some guns are pocket one day but ankle the next. If I'm wearing a sport coat it could be appendix or shoulder harness.
Rifles could be rotating between any number of lakes in various free states.
I have gunsafes in five different states and lockers in some free state ranges too.
Such a clerical nightmare.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Well, you can happy about this then, the other states don't know about handguns. it is only in NY
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Just answer a simple question. FEELIN INFRINGED?
I know what I want to happen. But I will not exercise my 1st amendment right to give my honest opinion on the internet.
Makes no difference if this violates the Constitution. Let us say this is passed and signed into law. We can all agree that we may think that this is a direct violation of the Second Amendment. What we all think and feel about the Constitutionality of it makes zero difference.
Just like the SAFE Act, sure, we can all think and say the Act is in direct violation of the 2A, in our hearts and our minds we can think it and feel it; makes not a bit of difference what we all think and feel.
These laws are only un-Constituional if the Courts say so. If they never rule on something like this, it stays law.
So, again, let us say this is passed and signed into law.....
A group of lawyers decide to file a case, it gets all of the way to SCOTUS, first, how long does it take to get there? Is there a guarantee that the Court will rule correctly? Even if they do rule correctly, how many people are going to be without their Rights in the meantime?
The depression thing, this one really bothers me, a lot. I have many Vet friends that have some serious PTSD, depression is high on the list of symptoms. You gonna forbid all of these Vets from gun ownership? New moms, high percentage get the Postpartum Depression; gonna forbid of them as well?
As for the alcohol, who determines how many drinks are too many? Brain cancer is a type of brain disease. Epilepsy and other Seizure Disorders? Yep, brain disease. This list is actually quite long.
Just like the SAFE Act, sure, we can all think and say the Act is in direct violation of the 2A, in our hearts and our minds we can think it and feel it; makes not a bit of difference what we all think and feel.
These laws are only un-Constituional if the Courts say so. If they never rule on something like this, it stays law.
So, again, let us say this is passed and signed into law.....
A group of lawyers decide to file a case, it gets all of the way to SCOTUS, first, how long does it take to get there? Is there a guarantee that the Court will rule correctly? Even if they do rule correctly, how many people are going to be without their Rights in the meantime?
The depression thing, this one really bothers me, a lot. I have many Vet friends that have some serious PTSD, depression is high on the list of symptoms. You gonna forbid all of these Vets from gun ownership? New moms, high percentage get the Postpartum Depression; gonna forbid of them as well?
As for the alcohol, who determines how many drinks are too many? Brain cancer is a type of brain disease. Epilepsy and other Seizure Disorders? Yep, brain disease. This list is actually quite long.
With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. Thise words are wisdom and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today, I fear that we are witnessing the chain being broken forever and we are helpless.
My most likely scenario for another civil war is when gun laws like this are passed and a couple of states openly defy it as second amendment sanctuaries. And then because these states are classified as havens for domestic terrorists the national guard or regular army is sent in.
I'm not looking forward to it.
I'm not looking forward to it.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
From a selfish standpoint, it would be best for us here in NY if this passes. Its essentially a Federal SAFE Act. This is the only way we will get the rest of free America to stop laughing at us and instead be forced to join the fight. SCOTUS cannot ignore the 2A forever. The biggest hurdle now is will Biden actually pack the court.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Oh, but "Trump wasn't a supporter of the 2nd" they said. Yeah, I'm talking about you. All of you can fuck off along with your candidate.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
This moms demand action wet dream proposal goes way beyond the oppressive NY Safe Act.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
10th Amendment.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Our problem is that Republicans in the current GOP are mostly weak, spineless, go-along-to-get-along, politicians. They avoid conflict at the expense of our rights.
The Republicans will do what they always do and use the Liberal Leftist proposal as the starting point. THAT is a mistake. The true starting point should be: National constitutional carry, repeal of the NFA, repeal of the GCA, and major new restrictions on the BATFE. Then, and only then, can any kind of "compromise" be reached.
The Republicans will do what they always do and use the Liberal Leftist proposal as the starting point. THAT is a mistake. The true starting point should be: National constitutional carry, repeal of the NFA, repeal of the GCA, and major new restrictions on the BATFE. Then, and only then, can any kind of "compromise" be reached.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
This could be the kind of overreach that will turn much of the country against the Liberal Progressives. Although Georgia just elected two Democrat senators who will toe the Democrat voting line, do you think that this kind of legislation will play well in much of Georgia?
Does anyone think that this kind of legislation will be popular in places outside of the East and Left coasts? Virginia had a huge pro-2A protest with armed, peaceful, protesters. Those people will not be pleased with this despite their purported Democrat representatives in congress. The Dems believe that because Biden "won" North Carolina that those people now want their own version of the SAFE Act on steroids. I think...no, I hope, that they are very wrong.
Does anyone think that this kind of legislation will be popular in places outside of the East and Left coasts? Virginia had a huge pro-2A protest with armed, peaceful, protesters. Those people will not be pleased with this despite their purported Democrat representatives in congress. The Dems believe that because Biden "won" North Carolina that those people now want their own version of the SAFE Act on steroids. I think...no, I hope, that they are very wrong.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Some people piss me off more than all the mother-in-laws in the universe.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I'll be honest I think this will likely not pass federally, but it may pass as an upgraded SAFE Act. Who knows.
If they give people more trouble on the SAFE act, my wife's uncle is in TX. He agreed to take the guns, and I'd legally transfer them to him via 4473 so there would be zero ambiguity laws wise. He'd own them, till I could get down there or to PA.
Phazer
.338 Win Mag
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Well, we all remember what Rham said...